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Price: The number one priority for first responders, especially fire,

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is being able to track and locate where their team members are at.

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Dennis: I think anybody that's spent any time doing first response

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has been in the situation where, you know,

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someone's gone missing or something's gone bad

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and you need to know where everyone's at immediately.

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Chow: POINTER stands for Position Outdoor/Indoor Navigation

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and Tracking for Emergency Responders.

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This is one of we think is truly breakthrough technology

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that can address the indoor tracking problem.

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Arumugam: So it's a technology that enables us to use devices

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that can be very small, that can be attached to first responders,

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that we can use to track them very accurately

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in complex structures such as steel reinforced building.

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The moving currents in these wires are generating magnetic fields,

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so what POINTER does, it generates these fields and receivers

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sitting on the fire truck sense these fields to enable a computer

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to show position and orientation of this device in the building.

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Chow: Because its magnetic signals can actually

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penetrate through buildings and walls and caves and water,

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we're taking advantage of the fact that magnetic signal

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can actually penetrate through those materials.

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Wordin: For us in an urban environment,

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not only do we have large buildings,

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which is real important to know where they are

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if we had a building fire, we had a collapse of that building.

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But it's also important to us to know for a wild land application

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where our personnel are in a broad area.

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Dennis: Someone calls on the radio and says that they need assistance

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or they've found someone who needs assistance,

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now you've got a more accurate way of determining their exact location,

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so you can bring additional assets to help them resolve whatever the issue is.

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Gonzales: It's really novel, just because it'll

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work in an infrastructure denied environment where DPS is not available,

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cellular technology is not available.

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That's really crucial for us in a wild land environment;

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this is the biggest challenge that we have.

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Dennis: The thing that's impressive is the 3-D aspect of it.

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Anybody with a cellphone call tell you, oh, I know where I'm at;

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it tells me right here on my phone.

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Well, that's great when you're working on a 2-D plane or a flat surface,

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but for first responders, we operate in different environments.

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We operate underwater, operate in subterranean, operate in high-rises.

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Price: We can see the first responder's rotation now on the user interface.

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We can also see when a first responder goes down.

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So if a first responder's standing upright and he or she goes down,

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we can actually see that motion of upright to down on the user interface.

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Right now in Phase Two the transmitter is about the size of a shoebox.

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When we move to Phase Three, it's going to go to about the size

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of something you could fit in the palm of your hand and it's going to be ounces;

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so start thinking about a button or something that may be

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on the PPE of a first responder,

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so they don't have to worry about doing anything other than putting on their PPE.

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This is the next big thing, if not the biggest thing

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to be able to know where our firefighter's at,

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at any given time and any type of location and environment.

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