WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.957 --> 00:00:02.014 2 00:00:02,014 --> 00:00:07,662 [Music] 2 00:00:07.662 --> 00:00:12.662 4 00:00:16,454 --> 00:00:19,093 Reed: Interference is a real concern 3 00:00:19.093 --> 00:00:22.510 that can affect our first responder communications. 4 00:00:22.510 --> 00:00:25.902 How do we deploy mitigation strategies 5 00:00:25.902 --> 00:00:30.342 for first responders without huge costs involvement? 6 00:00:30.342 --> 00:00:33.094 Young: If we get an emergency call and we can't talk to each other, 7 00:00:33.094 --> 00:00:36.670 that's a big issue for us and it's a huge safety issue, 8 00:00:36.670 --> 00:00:39.918 so anything we can learn, anything we can take back to 9 00:00:39.918 --> 00:00:43.590 our agency form this exercise is a plus in my book. 10 00:00:43.590 --> 00:00:46.910 Anderson: last year it was a matter of trying to 11 00:00:46.910 --> 00:00:51.542 see on both ends if we could tell when we were being jammed. 12 00:00:51.542 --> 00:00:56.189 This year we thought about , OK, so if you're jammed, now what do you do? 13 00:00:56.189 --> 00:01:00.646 Smith: During the Jam X '17, we're basically using the lessons learned 14 00:01:00.646 --> 00:01:05.621 from the previous exercise to really focus on how the jammers are being used, 15 00:01:05.621 --> 00:01:10.269 their effective range and the impacts they have on the technology. 16 00:01:10.269 --> 00:01:12.677 One of the things that we learned was that 17 00:01:12.677 --> 00:01:17.454 if you're being jammed on one frequency, you can go to a different frequency. 18 00:01:17.454 --> 00:01:20.110 Anderson: If you feel like you've lost communications in one area, 19 00:01:20.110 --> 00:01:24.062 sometimes if you moved twenty feet, you might regain it. 20 00:01:24.062 --> 00:01:27.597 Kowdley: We're also looking at using physical objects as shielding, 21 00:01:27.597 --> 00:01:31.373 specifically small cars, large cars, buildings. 22 00:01:31.373 --> 00:01:34.701 And then look at the geometries involved in terms of how 23 00:01:34.701 --> 00:01:38.181 to work against these systems that could potentially interfere 24 00:01:38.181 --> 00:01:40.573 with systems that first responders are using. 25 00:01:40.573 --> 00:01:42.853 Anderson: Survival blankets, I guess, is what they're called. 26 00:01:42.853 --> 00:01:44.894 They're like a metal blanket. 27 00:01:44.894 --> 00:01:48.350 And we thought about trying to cover a device 28 00:01:48.350 --> 00:01:53.350 that may be causing interference and seeing if that resolved the problem. 29 00:01:53.813 --> 00:01:58.021 We've had some success with that, so that's something we learned this year 30 00:01:58.021 --> 00:02:01.029 that if we wouldn't have been able to come out here, we wouldn't have known. 31 00:02:01.029 --> 00:02:04.365 Kowdley: You have features on the radio that you may not be properly using, 32 00:02:04.365 --> 00:02:06.942 such as we have automatic gain control 33 00:02:06.942 --> 00:02:09.637 and some of the other features that are built into the radio, 34 00:02:09.637 --> 00:02:13.141 but you just have to be, enable them as part of your programming routine. 35 00:02:13.141 --> 00:02:17.709 Anderson: Also we learned the importance of having backup communication plans 36 00:02:17.709 --> 00:02:20.750 and making sure the field units know what to do 37 00:02:20.750 --> 00:02:23.150 if something like that were to happen. 38 00:02:23.150 --> 00:02:27.494 Kowdley: We have stakeholders from federal, state and local, industry, academia. 39 00:02:27.494 --> 00:02:31.101 Having all of us work together clearly allows us 40 00:02:31.101 --> 00:02:33.726 to learn from each other and share knowledge. 41 00:02:33.726 --> 00:02:38.326 The second piece is that having multiple agencies bring in their multiple systems 42 00:02:38.326 --> 00:02:43.046 allows us to test what is the impact to a whole host of systems. 43 00:02:43.046 --> 00:02:46.174 We're testing LTE and band 14. 44 00:02:46.174 --> 00:02:49.781 We're also doing a number of public safety bands and modes. 45 00:02:49.781 --> 00:02:52.246 Young: I think one of the most important things that we can learn 46 00:02:52.246 --> 00:02:56.957 is what to look for, how to defeat that if we can 47 00:02:56.957 --> 00:03:01.886 and how to educate our employees and our operational personnel in the field on how, 48 00:03:01.886 --> 00:03:04.430 what to do in case this does happen in the field. 49 00:03:04.430 --> 00:03:06.550 Anderson: Just because you lose communications, 50 00:03:06.550 --> 00:03:08.982 don't always think that it's going to be something technical; 51 00:03:08.982 --> 00:03:10.814 it could be something else, 52 00:03:10.814 --> 00:03:14.045 so it's important to open your mind to all possibilities. 53 00:03:14.045 --> 00:03:17.037 Don't get tunnel vision. 54 00:03:17.037 --> 00:03:19.381 Reed: Technology will come to a point 55 00:03:19.381 --> 00:03:21.958 where it's cost-effective for our first responders 56 00:03:21.958 --> 00:03:25.310 to have spectrum analyzers and early identification devices 57 00:03:25.310 --> 00:03:27.990 in their patrol cars and on their fire trucks, 58 00:03:27.990 --> 00:03:30.510 but right now what we really need to teach them is, 59 00:03:30.510 --> 00:03:33.294 is that this is a potential concern. 60 00:03:33.294 --> 00:03:37.613 This is very easy, low-cost ways that you can either say, 61 00:03:37.613 --> 00:03:40.981 yes, there may be something going on and if there is something going on, 62 00:03:40.981 --> 00:03:45.437 this is a very easy way that we can ensure mission critical communications 63 00:03:45.437 --> 00:03:47.757 are making it back to our dispatch, 64 00:03:47.757 --> 00:03:52.334 our command vehicles and on the incident itself. 65 00:03:52.334 --> 00:03:54.821 [Music] 66 00:03:54.821 --> 00:03:55.190 69 00:03:55,190 --> 00:03:55,517 67 00:03:55.517 --> 00:03:55.846 71 00:03:55,846 --> 00:03:55,846