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Vandewalle: Today we were trying out a
couple of new iterations of the turnouts

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that are designed to have better
gas and particulate impermeability.

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Exposure to the particulate matter and
the gas vapors that come through is huge.

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In the fire service as a whole,

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the cancer rates are just way beyond the acceptable level.

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Lieber: Cancer's a big issue in the fire service,

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so anything we can do to mitigate that

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and to help out with the
research I thought was really important.

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Smith: One of the reasons they think that this is happening

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is because particulates, vapors, those types of things,

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are getting in through our wrist slits,

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through our, the bottom of our pants,

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through the interfaces of the gear.

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So the goal of this facilitation was to
test the comfort and the usability of it.

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They've already done all the testing

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to prove that the particulate
filters work and it's keeping it out.

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We're just here to tell you if it feels OK while we do it.

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Vandewalle: These tests were very valuable today.

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They were very well planned out.

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People from S&T that design these tests

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matched fire ground operations well.

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We captured everything from carrying a ladder

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over our heads to crawling around on a floor,

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to the physical challenges of a
dummy drag and swinging a sledgehammer

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and the fit and comfort of the
garment was right where we'd like it to be.

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Lieber: I like it. It's comfortable.

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There're some new things that I have to adjust to,

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such as the zipper, but I do, I like it.

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Smith: The ensemble that
they've created is a great first step,

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so it's taken one facet of a potential exposure route

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and removed that from the system.

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Whether that fixes it, I don't know,

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but it's definitely a great step in the right direction.

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