WEBVTT - https://subtitletools.com 00:00:05.516 --> 00:00:19.546 [ Music ] 00:00:20.046 --> 00:00:21.276 >> We have Mr. Kevin Good. 00:00:21.276 --> 00:00:24.116 He's a senior research engineer from Battelle in Columbus, 00:00:24.116 --> 00:00:25.486 one of our performers. 00:00:25.926 --> 00:00:29.666 And then we also have Mr. Cliff Deutsch from Command Canine. 00:00:30.296 --> 00:00:32.016 So Kevin will speak first a little bit. 00:00:32.296 --> 00:00:33.406 We'll hand it over to Cliff. 00:00:33.886 --> 00:00:35.126 You know, they're going to talk about our state 00:00:35.126 --> 00:00:38.516 and local outreach that we're working a couple of the efforts. 00:00:38.556 --> 00:00:41.086 But you know, Kevin, as we said, 00:00:41.086 --> 00:00:44.636 we've got the scientist engineer test evaluation 00:00:44.636 --> 00:00:47.086 and then we've got, you know, Cliff is one of our, you know, 00:00:47.086 --> 00:00:51.596 stakeholders and provides a good grounding for us, 00:00:51.596 --> 00:00:54.966 because what we feel is unique with this program. 00:00:54.966 --> 00:00:57.676 As we match, you know, the scientists, the engineers, 00:00:57.676 --> 00:01:00.056 the smart folks, and embed 00:01:00.056 --> 00:01:04.276 and really match our subject matter experts with that. 00:01:04.276 --> 00:01:08.226 Because if we're not doing something that isn't beneficial 00:01:08.226 --> 00:01:11.726 to the guys at the other end of the leash, then, you know, 00:01:11.726 --> 00:01:12.996 it's science for science sake. 00:01:12.996 --> 00:01:15.716 So that's where we have a unique melding 00:01:15.716 --> 00:01:17.976 of this within this program. 00:01:18.396 --> 00:01:21.316 And so I think, you know, some of the things 00:01:21.316 --> 00:01:23.326 about our state and local outreach. 00:01:23.326 --> 00:01:26.026 And, you know, we know that you guys have some 00:01:26.606 --> 00:01:29.196 of your own outreach with state and locals. 00:01:29.516 --> 00:01:30.876 So we want to hear that. 00:01:30.876 --> 00:01:36.116 We want to create more partnerships, but let's jump in 00:01:36.116 --> 00:01:38.536 and I'll introduce Mr. Kevin Good to start us. 00:01:38.996 --> 00:01:39.446 >> Thanks, Don. 00:01:39.446 --> 00:01:40.516 Good morning. 00:01:40.976 --> 00:01:43.966 Again, I'm Kevin Good from Battelle and I'm going 00:01:43.966 --> 00:01:46.716 to be joined up here in a few minutes by my friend, 00:01:46.826 --> 00:01:48.346 Cliff Deutsch of Command Canine. 00:01:48.936 --> 00:01:51.646 We are contractors to DHS S&T. 00:01:52.406 --> 00:01:54.636 We've been aiding them with their state and local outreach, 00:01:55.046 --> 00:01:56.236 and that's what we've been invited 00:01:57.286 --> 00:01:58.366 to talk about here today. 00:02:01.506 --> 00:02:05.396 So I think that given this audience, we can agree 00:02:05.396 --> 00:02:08.896 that the detection canine is a demonstrated effective resource. 00:02:09.236 --> 00:02:13.116 Right. However, I also believe that there are a lot of state 00:02:13.116 --> 00:02:14.186 and local teams out there 00:02:14.576 --> 00:02:16.976 that don't have an extensive support network. 00:02:17.776 --> 00:02:19.946 They don't always have access to the latest tools, 00:02:19.946 --> 00:02:20.886 techniques, and knowledge. 00:02:21.586 --> 00:02:29.206 And so as a result, in 2017 Don, Cliff, and I, and a small group 00:02:29.206 --> 00:02:31.106 of other providers started to roll 00:02:31.106 --> 00:02:33.186 out these regionally based events. 00:02:33.186 --> 00:02:36.286 I say regionally based because we go out to the canine teams. 00:02:36.286 --> 00:02:39.406 So these regionally based events for state 00:02:39.406 --> 00:02:43.656 and local law enforcement canine teams where we're working 00:02:43.656 --> 00:02:46.536 to share some of that latest and greatest information 00:02:46.536 --> 00:02:47.206 and knowledge with them. 00:02:47.626 --> 00:02:49.636 We're looking to put them through their paces, 00:02:49.906 --> 00:02:51.906 through some testing, but in most importantly, 00:02:52.156 --> 00:02:54.806 we're there because we want to work with them, engage them, 00:02:54.806 --> 00:02:56.906 and understand their needs. 00:02:57.886 --> 00:03:04.046 And so the program is referred to as REDDI, which stands 00:03:04.046 --> 00:03:06.666 for the Regional Explosive Detection Dog Initiative. 00:03:07.216 --> 00:03:09.156 We've got a number of objectives for REDDI, and a couple 00:03:09.156 --> 00:03:10.686 of those are listed here. 00:03:11.226 --> 00:03:13.196 As I said on the first slide, again, 00:03:13.196 --> 00:03:16.056 we want to establish relationships with our state 00:03:16.056 --> 00:03:19.836 and local canine teams in order to understand their needs 00:03:19.876 --> 00:03:21.446 in order to understand their challenges. 00:03:22.416 --> 00:03:25.036 While we're there, we want to take the opportunity 00:03:25.036 --> 00:03:27.666 to share some knowledge and ideas with the canine handlers 00:03:27.666 --> 00:03:30.916 that may allow them to do their job, either safer or better. 00:03:31.816 --> 00:03:33.546 Continuing that theme we hope 00:03:33.546 --> 00:03:36.436 that the event ultimately allows them to make small improvements 00:03:36.436 --> 00:03:38.416 in their capabilities to improve their tactics 00:03:38.636 --> 00:03:40.336 or improve their awareness of the situation. 00:03:41.496 --> 00:03:44.296 And then finally, you know, we're there to gather data 00:03:44.296 --> 00:03:47.006 that can be used for the betterment of the community. 00:03:47.126 --> 00:03:48.816 And so let me expand on that. 00:03:48.816 --> 00:03:50.506 You know, we're trying to gather that data, 00:03:50.506 --> 00:03:53.516 not just from one dog team or from one location, right. 00:03:53.516 --> 00:03:56.096 We want to test in South Florida, but I want to do a test 00:03:56.096 --> 00:03:59.076 out on the West coast and East coast and in Midwest as well. 00:03:59.076 --> 00:04:02.216 We want to pull together that aggregate data in order 00:04:02.216 --> 00:04:05.376 to inform future federal investments 00:04:05.606 --> 00:04:09.886 to best serve these men and women. 00:04:10.026 --> 00:04:11.636 Okay. So each REDDI event 00:04:11.636 --> 00:04:13.846 for our participating canine handlers is a two day 00:04:13.846 --> 00:04:16.326 engagement, and we've got a number of different components 00:04:16.706 --> 00:04:17.636 to each of those events. 00:04:18.286 --> 00:04:20.596 One is classroom instruction. 00:04:20.816 --> 00:04:23.236 So, for example, my explosive chemist comes 00:04:23.236 --> 00:04:24.386 and he gives a lecture. 00:04:24.686 --> 00:04:27.036 And, no, he doesn't give detailed chemistry lecture, 00:04:27.126 --> 00:04:27.256 right. 00:04:27.256 --> 00:04:27.946 That's not useful. 00:04:27.946 --> 00:04:30.916 But what he does give is practical information 00:04:31.596 --> 00:04:33.916 that will allow these men and women to do their job, again, 00:04:33.916 --> 00:04:36.186 either safer or better. 00:04:36.246 --> 00:04:39.376 So an example would be making sure that they are comfortable 00:04:39.506 --> 00:04:42.926 in identifying and being aware of the precursors 00:04:43.256 --> 00:04:47.226 that are associated with common or popular homemade explosives. 00:04:47.226 --> 00:04:50.016 Right. There is information available at a scene sometimes 00:04:50.266 --> 00:04:51.296 where the handler might not even need 00:04:51.296 --> 00:04:52.406 to get the dog out of the truck. 00:04:52.406 --> 00:04:54.046 And we want them to be aware of that 00:04:54.046 --> 00:04:55.186 and to be able to react to that. 00:04:55.326 --> 00:04:57.906 So we have some, you know, some useful information sharing. 00:04:59.276 --> 00:05:01.036 We also do odor recognition trials. 00:05:01.306 --> 00:05:04.006 And we have a picture here on the left hand side 00:05:04.006 --> 00:05:06.116 of a dog team doing our odor recognition trials. 00:05:06.116 --> 00:05:07.766 And this is a series of scent lineups 00:05:08.456 --> 00:05:10.666 where the handler who's blind to the problem, he does not know 00:05:10.666 --> 00:05:12.186 where we've hidden any of the targets. 00:05:12.666 --> 00:05:15.676 He and his dog, his canine partner are attempting 00:05:15.676 --> 00:05:19.376 to identify the location of any hidden target materials 00:05:19.756 --> 00:05:21.756 in a sea of distracting odors. 00:05:22.736 --> 00:05:25.606 We also conduct a number of operational scenarios. 00:05:25.906 --> 00:05:27.256 So those target materials that are 00:05:27.256 --> 00:05:30.386 in that simple odor recognition trial, where they are 00:05:30.386 --> 00:05:33.566 at different times put into an operational scenario. 00:05:33.856 --> 00:05:35.786 And we put a lot of emphasis on realism, 00:05:36.116 --> 00:05:38.016 so we want to use a relevant target material. 00:05:38.646 --> 00:05:40.436 We want that target material configured 00:05:40.436 --> 00:05:41.966 or packaged realistically 00:05:42.236 --> 00:05:44.896 and we want it being used in a viable setting. 00:05:45.406 --> 00:05:50.516 Next, there was a results sharing element to the event. 00:05:50.516 --> 00:05:52.776 So about halfway through the second day, 00:05:53.236 --> 00:05:55.656 if I'm a canine team participating in this event, 00:05:55.956 --> 00:05:59.106 I get a handout and it shows me all the target materials 00:05:59.106 --> 00:06:01.026 that were present in the odor recognition trial 00:06:01.236 --> 00:06:04.616 and how my dog, how my dog and I did 00:06:04.616 --> 00:06:05.846 against those different materials. 00:06:06.606 --> 00:06:09.346 Additionally, on that same page, we show the details 00:06:09.346 --> 00:06:10.626 where the operational searches. 00:06:10.626 --> 00:06:12.526 So what target materials were out there, 00:06:12.756 --> 00:06:15.756 where were they hidden, how were they configured, and how did we 00:06:15.756 --> 00:06:18.326 as a team do on those targets. 00:06:19.746 --> 00:06:20.856 After that result sharing, 00:06:20.856 --> 00:06:22.366 there's an opportunity for some training. 00:06:22.666 --> 00:06:25.926 And so again, if I'm a canine participant, if I'm a handler 00:06:25.926 --> 00:06:28.466 in this event and I get my results back 00:06:28.856 --> 00:06:30.216 and let's say there was a material in there, 00:06:30.216 --> 00:06:31.596 ABC that I'm not happy with, 00:06:31.596 --> 00:06:32.936 I thought we should have been better on it. 00:06:33.166 --> 00:06:34.456 Well that material is available 00:06:34.526 --> 00:06:36.256 for some short imprinting session. 00:06:36.536 --> 00:06:37.856 And we're not claiming that we're going to be able 00:06:37.856 --> 00:06:39.746 to resolve any and all deficiencies 00:06:39.746 --> 00:06:40.896 in a short training session, 00:06:40.896 --> 00:06:43.266 but we can start taking those first steps together. 00:06:44.666 --> 00:06:48.396 And then finally the handlers that participate all complete 00:06:48.396 --> 00:06:50.516 for us a pretty in depth questionnaire where we're trying 00:06:50.686 --> 00:06:54.176 to gather information on their day to day practices 00:06:54.176 --> 00:06:55.136 and their certification. 00:06:55.136 --> 00:06:57.366 So what materials are they training on? 00:06:58.066 --> 00:07:00.166 How often are they training on those materials? 00:07:00.166 --> 00:07:01.396 How are those materials stored? 00:07:01.606 --> 00:07:02.736 How are those materials handled? 00:07:03.096 --> 00:07:04.176 What are their certification like? 00:07:04.176 --> 00:07:07.436 So trying to gain additional insights to the day to day, 00:07:07.906 --> 00:07:10.126 you know, activities of these canine teams. 00:07:11.096 --> 00:07:15.446 Okay. So to date we have completed 15 of these events, 00:07:15.926 --> 00:07:18.496 and as soon as this event is over Cliff and I are hopping 00:07:18.496 --> 00:07:20.116 on a plane and heading to Fort Worth, Texas, 00:07:20.116 --> 00:07:23.266 because we've got number 16 happening this week. 00:07:23.886 --> 00:07:25.646 But through those 15 events that we've completed, 00:07:25.696 --> 00:07:28.926 we've had access or involved over 200 participants. 00:07:29.366 --> 00:07:32.546 Those participants have span 85 different departments 00:07:32.796 --> 00:07:36.286 and we've amassed over 5,000 blind target exposures 00:07:36.316 --> 00:07:38.746 between the odor recognition trials and all 00:07:38.746 --> 00:07:41.336 of the operational scenarios. 00:07:41.336 --> 00:07:43.906 We have over 5,000 data points on targets alone. 00:07:45.076 --> 00:07:47.096 Now in an open forum I can always share, you know, 00:07:47.096 --> 00:07:50.546 some of our findings I had and even then at a high level, 00:07:51.026 --> 00:07:54.056 but here they are, you know, this in my, you know, 00:07:54.056 --> 00:07:55.636 I've been serving this community for a long time 00:07:55.636 --> 00:07:58.656 and I think it has a reputation of being closed minded. 00:07:58.906 --> 00:07:59.966 But we haven't seen that. 00:07:59.966 --> 00:08:01.466 Like the handlers that we're dealing 00:08:01.466 --> 00:08:03.466 with that are participating in this had been really open 00:08:03.576 --> 00:08:06.576 and eager for challenging and progressive training 00:08:06.576 --> 00:08:07.356 and testing scenarios. 00:08:07.356 --> 00:08:08.996 Right. They want to challenge their dog, 00:08:09.216 --> 00:08:10.306 they want to challenge themselves, 00:08:10.306 --> 00:08:11.626 because they want to do better. 00:08:11.626 --> 00:08:13.266 And so we've encountered a lot of men and women 00:08:13.566 --> 00:08:16.166 that are very open to new ideas and to push in the limits. 00:08:16.996 --> 00:08:18.626 And so that's the first finding there 00:08:18.626 --> 00:08:21.056 that the community I think is eager for information 00:08:21.056 --> 00:08:22.276 and for progressive 00:08:22.466 --> 00:08:25.006 and challenging training concepts and problems. 00:08:26.006 --> 00:08:28.486 Unfortunately, our routine training doesn't always reflect 00:08:28.556 --> 00:08:29.446 real world problems. 00:08:29.876 --> 00:08:32.996 Right. These hide, or these scenarios that are easy 00:08:32.996 --> 00:08:35.636 and convenient to set up because we need to get a find quickly, 00:08:35.636 --> 00:08:37.936 that doesn't always translate into the level 00:08:37.936 --> 00:08:39.286 of capability that we need. 00:08:40.836 --> 00:08:43.746 Detection performance does vary by target material. 00:08:43.746 --> 00:08:44.896 There are some of these materials 00:08:45.266 --> 00:08:47.306 that are more difficult than others, meaning that some 00:08:47.306 --> 00:08:49.536 of these materials teams need to spend more time. 00:08:49.536 --> 00:08:51.636 They need to recognize that, respect that 00:08:51.636 --> 00:08:54.166 and spend more time, spend more effort making sure 00:08:54.166 --> 00:08:56.356 that their dog is good on that material. 00:08:56.356 --> 00:09:01.336 Next, I think that the community in general would benefit 00:09:01.336 --> 00:09:03.866 from an increased emphasis on detection threshold. 00:09:04.206 --> 00:09:06.546 Raising that threshold so they recognize large amounts 00:09:06.546 --> 00:09:10.136 or very odorous hides, but definitely also lowering 00:09:10.136 --> 00:09:11.246 that threshold too, so that 00:09:11.416 --> 00:09:14.256 if we have an intelligent adversary who's packaging things 00:09:14.256 --> 00:09:16.426 carefully, trying to conceal that, trying to lower 00:09:16.426 --> 00:09:18.676 that signature that our dogs, you know, 00:09:18.676 --> 00:09:20.406 react to that strongly still. 00:09:21.436 --> 00:09:24.766 And then finally, after the 15 events, you know, no city, 00:09:24.766 --> 00:09:28.146 no locale was outperforming or underperforming the others. 00:09:28.606 --> 00:09:31.916 We have certainly encountered some innovative training tactics 00:09:32.126 --> 00:09:33.216 that some of the departments are using. 00:09:33.216 --> 00:09:34.366 And then we're, you know, we're sharing 00:09:34.366 --> 00:09:36.796 that with the subsequent events. 00:09:37.356 --> 00:09:43.626 Okay. So now that we've conducted 15 of these events 00:09:43.626 --> 00:09:47.276 and we've amassed, you know, a little bit of a dataset, again, 00:09:47.566 --> 00:09:49.666 the key was not no knee jerk reaction based off 00:09:49.666 --> 00:09:51.616 of a single team or a single location. 00:09:51.916 --> 00:09:55.216 Let's get a quality data set here and look for real trends. 00:09:55.586 --> 00:09:58.346 But now that we were starting to get that sizable dataset, 00:09:58.346 --> 00:10:02.676 and we want to move to sharing the aggregated knowledge 00:10:02.716 --> 00:10:04.966 and data set with the law enforcement community. 00:10:05.046 --> 00:10:07.696 So we're exploring avenues and REDDI, you know, 00:10:07.836 --> 00:10:09.446 future REDDI events might be one of those avenues, 00:10:09.446 --> 00:10:12.336 but exploring avenues to disseminate the information 00:10:12.776 --> 00:10:14.616 to the state and local authorities. 00:10:16.306 --> 00:10:18.546 Again, now that we've got a larger dataset we can start 00:10:18.546 --> 00:10:19.956 doing some statistical analysis 00:10:19.956 --> 00:10:21.816 to inform those future investments. 00:10:22.046 --> 00:10:24.646 So what should the federal government be investing in, 00:10:25.176 --> 00:10:27.216 in order to best serve these men and women? 00:10:28.896 --> 00:10:30.906 And then we're also continuing with the REDDI events. 00:10:30.906 --> 00:10:33.456 We want to incorporate feedback that we get from each event. 00:10:34.046 --> 00:10:35.906 You know, we want to take away things 00:10:35.906 --> 00:10:36.696 that could maybe could've made 00:10:36.696 --> 00:10:38.176 that event better or more relevant. 00:10:38.176 --> 00:10:41.506 So we do adjust to handler feedback when appropriate. 00:10:41.936 --> 00:10:44.036 We want to continue our educational efforts. 00:10:44.476 --> 00:10:46.896 I mentioned that I have my chemist that gives a lecture. 00:10:46.896 --> 00:10:48.036 I also give a lecture. 00:10:48.466 --> 00:10:52.216 I have some examples with me of a leave behind booklet 00:10:52.216 --> 00:10:53.896 that we're going to leave with the handlers 00:10:53.896 --> 00:10:56.046 so they hear my briefing and then they get a booklet 00:10:56.046 --> 00:10:57.156 that kind of parallels that. 00:10:57.156 --> 00:10:59.826 And so if they're not able to absorb all that information 00:10:59.826 --> 00:11:02.476 in the, you know, the 90 minutes they're sitting in front of me, 00:11:02.786 --> 00:11:05.536 they got that quick reference booklet with them at all times. 00:11:06.306 --> 00:11:09.776 By continuing the REDDI events, we hope to gain more diversity 00:11:09.776 --> 00:11:10.976 into the dataset, right. 00:11:11.006 --> 00:11:13.136 The more teams that we get, the better snapshot 00:11:13.136 --> 00:11:14.806 of the entire community that we're going to get. 00:11:15.156 --> 00:11:17.046 And then we always have the option of phasing 00:11:17.046 --> 00:11:19.366 in new target materials and variations 00:11:19.366 --> 00:11:23.016 of those target materials as we try to gain additional insight 00:11:23.296 --> 00:11:25.216 on how to best serve this community. 00:11:27.386 --> 00:11:29.986 And with that, actually that's all my slides. 00:11:29.986 --> 00:11:32.496 And I want to turn it over to Cliff, so he can speak 00:11:32.616 --> 00:11:34.616 from an operator's perspective. 00:11:37.516 --> 00:11:42.576 [ Applause ] 00:11:43.076 --> 00:11:43.456 >> Good morning. 00:11:43.456 --> 00:11:44.156 My name is Cliff Deutsch. 00:11:44.156 --> 00:11:46.456 I'm a retired special operations canine sergeant 00:11:46.496 --> 00:11:49.566 for a large agency in Southwest Florida. 00:11:50.046 --> 00:11:52.436 My background mainly is highway drug interdiction. 00:11:52.466 --> 00:11:54.306 Even though I went through patrol tracking, 00:11:54.456 --> 00:11:55.606 apprehension school. 00:11:56.196 --> 00:11:58.446 Obviously working in South Florida, you can imagine 00:11:58.656 --> 00:12:01.776 with two main corridors we're very busy on that aspect 00:12:01.776 --> 00:12:04.266 of the canine detection teams. 00:12:05.356 --> 00:12:06.936 Throughout my years I was responsible 00:12:06.936 --> 00:12:08.596 for regional training. 00:12:09.266 --> 00:12:13.066 We're a very large agency, so we supported highway patrol 00:12:13.066 --> 00:12:15.476 and other state and local canine units. 00:12:16.056 --> 00:12:18.376 During that time I realized the challenges that we're facing, 00:12:18.546 --> 00:12:21.796 and drug dogs we're proven every day. 00:12:21.996 --> 00:12:26.546 You know, we're stopping cars, we're seizing contraband, 00:12:26.546 --> 00:12:29.946 we're going to Federal Express, UPS, other delivery services. 00:12:30.576 --> 00:12:34.396 But where the gap I saw was the explosive community. 00:12:34.396 --> 00:12:38.406 And starting my canine career in 1991 or 1992, 00:12:39.056 --> 00:12:43.086 as we evolved I saw further and further problems 00:12:43.256 --> 00:12:44.636 with explosive detections. 00:12:45.656 --> 00:12:50.376 Move forward 25 years I bumped into Mr. Roberts. 00:12:50.376 --> 00:12:52.966 I think it was Miami, South Florida somewhere. 00:12:53.776 --> 00:12:54.956 And I saw what he had. 00:12:55.286 --> 00:12:59.236 And I saw the expertise he had from a chemistry, 00:12:59.516 --> 00:13:02.446 from a science, from an engineering standpoint, 00:13:02.946 --> 00:13:06.006 something that we don't have in the law enforcement community. 00:13:06.206 --> 00:13:08.266 We just don't have those resources available to us. 00:13:09.036 --> 00:13:10.676 And I started talking to Mr. Roberts. 00:13:10.676 --> 00:13:14.176 And I'm like, sir, with all due respect, we need help. 00:13:14.566 --> 00:13:17.696 And we as canine operators, canine trainers, 00:13:17.696 --> 00:13:20.266 and canine managers have to take a step back 00:13:20.266 --> 00:13:21.496 and realize when we need help. 00:13:22.176 --> 00:13:23.416 We travel around the country. 00:13:23.416 --> 00:13:26.456 We go around the world that we see rock star teams 00:13:26.506 --> 00:13:27.676 in our own little world. 00:13:28.406 --> 00:13:31.116 When we come in from a third party standpoint 00:13:31.346 --> 00:13:34.716 with the operation REDDI event, teams struggle 00:13:34.716 --> 00:13:37.826 and they're challenged, because we push them beyond 00:13:37.826 --> 00:13:39.906 that training venue that they're used to doing. 00:13:40.836 --> 00:13:42.586 And I was at fault for that. 00:13:43.876 --> 00:13:46.756 As I learned and I learned to deal with the cartel family 00:13:46.846 --> 00:13:49.736 in South Florida from California, or Texas, 00:13:51.116 --> 00:13:52.696 in order to succeed we have to fail 00:13:52.876 --> 00:13:55.086 and in our community we struggle with that. 00:13:55.086 --> 00:13:55.956 There's nothing wrong with that. 00:13:55.956 --> 00:13:57.536 We're very protective of our teams. 00:13:57.796 --> 00:13:59.126 We're very protective our dogs. 00:13:59.166 --> 00:14:00.416 We're very protective of our handlers. 00:14:00.416 --> 00:14:02.886 I get it. But we're doing a disservice. 00:14:03.096 --> 00:14:07.216 Through Don's program, through Operation REDDI event we 00:14:07.216 --> 00:14:08.936 challenge the participants, 00:14:09.066 --> 00:14:11.726 but we also provide corrective measures if they need it. 00:14:12.056 --> 00:14:12.946 We have a chemist. 00:14:13.266 --> 00:14:14.716 We have several chemists on staff 00:14:14.766 --> 00:14:16.796 that obviously I'm not a chemist. 00:14:16.846 --> 00:14:19.666 Amazing. In 10 years that I worked in Don's program, 00:14:19.986 --> 00:14:23.476 it's helped me understand why my dog can do what they do. 00:14:23.566 --> 00:14:25.026 Why they can't do what they do. 00:14:25.476 --> 00:14:29.066 The engineers that from a science side as well 00:14:29.066 --> 00:14:31.926 and now working with, you know, the genetics and genomics, 00:14:31.996 --> 00:14:33.616 it gives us a better understanding 00:14:33.746 --> 00:14:35.086 to better serve our community. 00:14:35.866 --> 00:14:39.366 The criminal element is evolving every day. 00:14:39.946 --> 00:14:42.946 We have to take that step one step further 00:14:43.106 --> 00:14:44.546 and evolve our own community. 00:14:44.836 --> 00:14:47.716 We have to challenge ourselves, challenge our dogs. 00:14:48.156 --> 00:14:50.616 We can't do simple hides. 00:14:50.856 --> 00:14:52.416 We have to do threat-based hides. 00:14:53.056 --> 00:14:55.046 And what we've seen in this REDDI event, 00:14:55.556 --> 00:14:57.636 the teams are very good at what they do 00:14:58.166 --> 00:14:59.866 when in a controlled environment. 00:15:00.186 --> 00:15:03.316 When we bring in that criminal element, we put a threat device 00:15:03.316 --> 00:15:06.596 out made from the same composition of a training aid, 00:15:07.186 --> 00:15:08.576 teams are struggling out there. 00:15:09.496 --> 00:15:10.166 That's not good. 00:15:10.516 --> 00:15:13.036 It's not good for our families, our loved ones or our community. 00:15:13.776 --> 00:15:17.906 So with Don's support and Don's supporting expertise 00:15:17.906 --> 00:15:20.776 from a chemist and a science and an engineer's standpoint, 00:15:21.206 --> 00:15:23.446 we're helping state and local law enforcement. 00:15:24.656 --> 00:15:27.176 There's other programs out there like Mr. Roberts said, 00:15:27.926 --> 00:15:30.806 but we feel that we're listening to the end user. 00:15:30.956 --> 00:15:34.296 It's not me, Cliff Deutsch going to California say, hey, 00:15:34.296 --> 00:15:35.506 this is how you have to do things. 00:15:35.796 --> 00:15:38.736 We're listening to their gaps, their weaknesses, 00:15:38.736 --> 00:15:39.746 their vulnerabilities. 00:15:40.066 --> 00:15:41.956 We're putting our expertise together, 00:15:42.256 --> 00:15:44.396 either from a chemist standpoint or a science 00:15:44.586 --> 00:15:47.356 or from a canine standpoint, and we're helping them. 00:15:47.396 --> 00:15:50.196 We're helping them beat these gaps, these vulnerabilities, 00:15:50.436 --> 00:15:52.066 because at the end of the two day event, 00:15:52.066 --> 00:15:57.056 Operation REDDI event, the teams do progress and they get better. 00:15:57.056 --> 00:15:59.626 It's with that chemistry and that science side 00:15:59.626 --> 00:16:03.316 that we don't have, again from a law enforcement standpoint. 00:16:03.926 --> 00:16:08.076 And like Mr. Good said, we're in 16, 17 cities now, 00:16:08.076 --> 00:16:09.486 or regions of the country. 00:16:09.846 --> 00:16:12.966 We need to expand that presence, because there's a lot 00:16:12.966 --> 00:16:15.346 of agencies, the onesies, the twosies. 00:16:15.346 --> 00:16:17.046 You know, I come from a large agency 00:16:17.426 --> 00:16:20.056 and there's a lot more other bigger agencies out there, 00:16:20.596 --> 00:16:23.336 but the boots on the ground don't have the resources 00:16:23.336 --> 00:16:23.856 we have. 00:16:24.256 --> 00:16:26.646 And that's where I see the S&T being 00:16:26.646 --> 00:16:29.556 that federal focal point that's needed out there. 00:16:29.856 --> 00:16:31.736 >> With that being said, we have to know 00:16:31.736 --> 00:16:33.506 who the end user, our customer is. 00:16:33.596 --> 00:16:35.506 And I'm kind of put 00:16:35.506 --> 00:16:38.446 in situations sometime that are challenging. 00:16:39.046 --> 00:16:43.316 The chemist, we have to make it understandable for guys like me. 00:16:43.496 --> 00:16:45.136 Hey, I went to school four years, 00:16:45.346 --> 00:16:48.996 did the criminal justice degree, but I'm not a chemist and we are 00:16:48.996 --> 00:16:51.696 so challenged in the law enforcement community, 00:16:52.256 --> 00:16:54.786 in the vendor community, because we're doing more 00:16:54.786 --> 00:16:55.946 with less nowadays. 00:16:56.406 --> 00:17:00.426 So to have the support from an S&T, from a chemist 00:17:00.426 --> 00:17:02.396 and a scientist who are very passionate, 00:17:02.806 --> 00:17:04.696 and that's why I look at operators. 00:17:04.696 --> 00:17:06.276 We're very passionate for what we do. 00:17:07.076 --> 00:17:09.526 Some people might say we have anger management issues. 00:17:09.526 --> 00:17:12.026 No, it's a 24/7 job. 00:17:12.026 --> 00:17:14.216 You can't, your dog doesn't go. 00:17:14.216 --> 00:17:15.756 It's your responsibility. 00:17:16.136 --> 00:17:20.706 You're on 24 hour a day call, so we're tired, we're overworked. 00:17:20.706 --> 00:17:22.336 And with the support of S&T, 00:17:22.336 --> 00:17:25.146 we're able to beat the criminal element, 00:17:25.446 --> 00:17:28.526 because they have all day long to build these hides 00:17:28.526 --> 00:17:29.926 and build these threat devices. 00:17:30.256 --> 00:17:31.126 We have seconds. 00:17:31.356 --> 00:17:33.506 We have to respond in a second to a threat, 00:17:33.706 --> 00:17:37.096 and we have to make a decision from an operator standpoint, 00:17:37.236 --> 00:17:38.946 are we going to shut this terminal down? 00:17:38.946 --> 00:17:42.346 Are we going to evacuate a large crowd gathering, 00:17:42.436 --> 00:17:45.466 a sporting event because of our dogs indication 00:17:45.466 --> 00:17:46.636 of presence of explosives. 00:17:47.316 --> 00:17:50.916 That's a lot of responsibility on a male or female 00:17:50.916 --> 00:17:51.996 out there handling a dog. 00:17:52.796 --> 00:17:55.796 Murphy's law has it you might get a hit your first day out, 00:17:55.796 --> 00:17:56.596 right out of class. 00:17:56.856 --> 00:17:58.136 That's happened before. 00:17:58.816 --> 00:18:01.306 So you have to have that confidence level and you have 00:18:01.306 --> 00:18:03.006 to have credibility, reliability. 00:18:03.386 --> 00:18:06.936 With S&T support from the chemist and the science side, 00:18:07.096 --> 00:18:09.966 we give that to the law enforcement community. 00:18:10.176 --> 00:18:10.896 They don't have it. 00:18:11.536 --> 00:18:12.966 So I think it's important 00:18:12.966 --> 00:18:15.536 that we build our program bigger than we are. 00:18:15.536 --> 00:18:18.786 I think we need your help and your input doing it, 00:18:19.036 --> 00:18:22.366 but you have to come off of this we don't have any gaps 00:18:22.366 --> 00:18:23.186 and weaknesses. 00:18:23.496 --> 00:18:27.386 We do. I'm telling you we do, because the criminal elements 00:18:27.386 --> 00:18:30.306 out there they have, again weeks and months 00:18:30.306 --> 00:18:31.736 to develop something, years. 00:18:32.336 --> 00:18:34.706 And we have seconds and minutes to stop that threat. 00:18:35.336 --> 00:18:37.976 So with that being said, I really want to, 00:18:38.176 --> 00:18:38.996 you know, I'm humbled. 00:18:38.996 --> 00:18:40.666 I know a lot of faces in the crowd, 00:18:41.036 --> 00:18:42.936 wealth of experience out there. 00:18:43.386 --> 00:18:46.716 Working with S&T and having the opportunity 00:18:46.716 --> 00:18:50.906 that Mr. Roberts has given me has made me better understand 00:18:50.986 --> 00:18:51.976 how I can serve our community. 00:18:52.046 --> 00:18:55.766 And when we go to these REDDI events when I talk 00:18:55.766 --> 00:18:58.846 to the handlers off to the side and they're not doing as well 00:18:58.846 --> 00:19:01.126 as they're used to doing, they're asking why. 00:19:01.206 --> 00:19:05.086 I said, because you're training for your evaluation standards. 00:19:05.216 --> 00:19:08.116 If you train for operational needs for what that bad guy, 00:19:08.116 --> 00:19:09.836 that criminal element is going to do, 00:19:10.326 --> 00:19:12.226 your evaluation is going to be very simple. 00:19:12.616 --> 00:19:14.066 Your certifications going to be simple. 00:19:15.046 --> 00:19:16.346 And that's where the REDDI event, 00:19:16.436 --> 00:19:17.876 we're operationally based. 00:19:18.146 --> 00:19:20.006 We don't just put out normal training aids. 00:19:20.186 --> 00:19:22.836 We take that device and we put it 00:19:22.836 --> 00:19:25.516 where the criminal elements going to do. 00:19:25.516 --> 00:19:27.236 And I think that's the value added 00:19:27.926 --> 00:19:30.456 that S&T gives the community, whether you're federal, 00:19:30.496 --> 00:19:32.596 state, local, whoever. 00:19:34.016 --> 00:19:35.796 It's a very unique team. 00:19:35.796 --> 00:19:40.126 It's a very passionate team, and I know personally working 00:19:40.126 --> 00:19:43.386 with each and every one of the forms of expertise 00:19:43.386 --> 00:19:47.856 that Mr. Roberts has, we do work very long hours 00:19:47.856 --> 00:19:50.716 and we do take these REDDI events very serious. 00:19:51.136 --> 00:19:55.136 With Mr. Good's team out there developing the threats and us 00:19:55.136 --> 00:19:57.626 from a canine standpoint, when our brothers 00:19:57.626 --> 00:19:59.976 and sisters are struggling, what are we going to do? 00:20:00.076 --> 00:20:01.306 How are we going to help them? 00:20:01.306 --> 00:20:04.216 And that's where Mr. Roberts gives us the leniency 00:20:04.216 --> 00:20:04.866 to do that. 00:20:05.386 --> 00:20:08.656 So I'm very appreciative of the opportunity. 00:20:08.996 --> 00:20:12.126 I'd love to hear from the operators, the trainers, 00:20:12.126 --> 00:20:14.626 the program managers out there, what we can do, what we could do 00:20:14.626 --> 00:20:17.966 to support you from a canine side of it. 00:20:18.266 --> 00:20:20.606 And then I can try to convey that to the chemistry 00:20:20.606 --> 00:20:21.566 and the science side of it, 00:20:21.896 --> 00:20:23.576 which is at times a little challenging. 00:20:23.576 --> 00:20:24.846 I will be honest with you there. 00:20:24.846 --> 00:20:26.346 And Mr. Robert's very patient 00:20:26.576 --> 00:20:28.266 from my standpoint to say the least. 00:20:28.816 --> 00:20:31.066 But we need your input. 00:20:31.796 --> 00:20:33.316 We have the resources to do it. 00:20:33.796 --> 00:20:34.406 Let's do it. 00:20:34.596 --> 00:20:36.566 Because again, the bad guy's evolving, 00:20:36.566 --> 00:20:37.536 we need to evolve with it. 00:20:38.116 --> 00:20:40.386 So with that, thank you for the opportunity. 00:20:40.386 --> 00:20:42.186 I really appreciate it. 00:20:42.186 --> 00:20:43.446 And stay safe. 00:20:43.676 --> 00:20:43.966 Thank you. 00:20:45.016 --> 00:20:47.016 [ Applause ] 00:20:47.516 --> 00:21:01.500 [ Music ]