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Good afternoon.

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I am Chrissi Guth with CBP's
Office of Trade Relations.

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Today's webinar is on an
overview of UFLPA and Forced

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labor for small businesses.

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Now I would like to pass it over
to International trade analyst

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Jeff Franz.

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Hi, thanks so much, Chrissi, and
thank you everyone for for being

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here today.

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Really appreciate it.

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Like Chrissi said, my name is
Jeff Franz.

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I work for CBP's Forced Labor
Division.

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Effectively what the Forced
Labor Division tries to do is to

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stop imports that are made with
forced labor, modern slavery,

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that sort of thing, from coming
into the United States.

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So today myself and my colleague
Clyde, also an international

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trade analyst, we will be
talking kind of giving an

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overview of forced labor around
the world, US legislation that

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goes along with that as well as
CBP enforcement of that

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legislation.

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So thanks again everyone for for
being here.

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We hope you get something out of
this presentation if nothing

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else.

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Hopefully it makes you realize
that unfortunately forced labor

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is a real issue around the
world.

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It's something that we as people
of the world have a moral

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obligation to stop and the US
really is trying to do every

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everything it can to to do so
and Customs and Border

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Protection plays a a key role in
that.

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So on the the next slide here,
we'll we'll talk kind of about

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forced labor as a whole as it's
happening around the world.

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There's upwards of of 30 million
people.

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It's estimated by that
international labor organization

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that are trapped in forced labor
worldwide.

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I know you can't see the numbers
on that map here, but the

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majority is happening in kind of
the Asia Pacific region, a bit

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of a lesser amount in Europe and
Central Asia, Africa as well and

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some of the Americas too.

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So I'm not going to give the the
exact breakdown, but you can go

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to the ILO if you wanted to see
those numbers.

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So we'll go back to the previous
slide and just wanted to mention

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that you know the, the concerns
related to security including

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national and economic security
as well as the environment, all

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of these things drive policy to
create forced labor legislation

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and so on.

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The on the next slide I'll kind
of speak to the really pivotal

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pieces of legislation in the
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this, this terrible practice.

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So the first one is it's called
Section 307 of the Tariff Act of

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1930.

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So this was passed, you know,
almost 100 years ago and

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effectively what this law said
was the United States will not

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allow imports to come into the
country if they are produced by

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forced labor.

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The issue or kind of loophole
with this law unfortunately was

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that it had something called the
consumptive demand clause.

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So in the event that a product
was not produced enough

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domestically, we would actually
still allow that product to come

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in from abroad even if it was
produced by forced labor.

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So for example, let's say cotton
was produced by forced labor

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coming from China for example.

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If the United States could not
produce enough cotton

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domestically to kind of saturate
our our domestic market as much

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as we need, we would still allow
that cotton to come in from from

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China, for example, or whatever
other country, even though it

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was produced by forced labor.

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So that was a big loophole in
the law.

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Fast forward almost 100 years
with the passing of the Trade

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Facilitation and Trade
Enforcement Act of 2015.

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What that did is it repealed
that consumptive demand clause.

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So now you know it doesn't
matter if if the US cannot

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produce something enough
domestically, if it's produced

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with forced labor, we will not
allow it into the country.

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So that really significantly
enhanced Customs and Border

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protections of enforcement
authorities against forced labor

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imports.

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Another one you can see on the
right there, it's called

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Countering America's Adversaries
Through Sanctions Act also known

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as KATSA that was passed in 2017
that deals really with North

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Korean imports.

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So anything we we know is coming
from North Korea, we pretty much

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assume that it's made with
forced labor.

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And then the really big kind of
hot ticket item right now is the

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UFLPA or the Uyghur Forced Labor
Prevention Act.

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Clyde's going to speak a lot to
this later in the slides.

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But effectively what this does
is it bans imports from the

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northwest region of China, the
Xinjiang region of China under

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the assumption that anything
coming out of that region is

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unfortunately produced with
forced labor.

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So the next time I'm going to
talk to some of the the

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International Labor Organization
indicators of forced labor and

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the ILO, what it's something
that is based in I think Geneva,

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Switzerland and we Customs and
Border Protection and the US we

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really use those these
indicators, these 11 indicators

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when we are investigating
alleged cases of forced labor.

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So I'm just going to speak to
these 11, not in terrible

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detail, we don't have the time
for that, but I'll speak to each

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of them a little bit.

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So deception relatively
self-explanatory.

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But this could be a case where
an employer is, is hiring

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someone and they're deceiving
them into maybe thinking they're

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getting a higher wage than they
actually get.

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So that's just one example
restriction of movement.

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This is something we see a lot
in terms of facilities where

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workers actually cannot leave
the premises, other examples

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too, but that that's a big one.

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Isolation, this is kind of when
a an employer for example, maybe

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they take someone's phone or
they they keep them from being

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able to interact with the
outside world.

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So this person might just be
allowed to stay in the facility,

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or forced to stay in the
facility and not able to

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interact with the outside world
to even be able to tell anyone

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what's going on another one.

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Physical and sexual violence,
that of course is

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self-explanatory.

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Intimidation and threats.

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Often, you know, we see
employers who might threaten

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someone's family.

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You know, if that employee is
looking to leave the facility,

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leave the job.

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That is another one.

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Retention of identity documents.

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This is a huge one where,
especially with workers who are

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traveling across borders,
they're very vulnerable.

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And So what employers often
unfortunately will do is they

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will take that employee's
passport, sometimes willingly.

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Sometimes the employee is
willing to give it up for

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whatever reason, but then they
will hold it from them.

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So that employee is then even
more vulnerable.

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They can't get back to their
home country, so they're in a

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way forced to stay in that
country and stay in that job.

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Another one withholding of
wages, self-explanatory,

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employer is not, you know,
giving the wages that that they

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promised.

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Debt ******* is one that a lot
of people aren't quite aware.

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That happens, but it's it's a
huge one in terms of these

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indicators of forced labor.

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This occurs when an employer has
an employee take on a debt to

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even get that get the job in the
1st place.

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And So what happens is the
employee pays a debt to the

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employer with the expectation
that the wages that they that

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they get over time they'll be
able to pay off that debt to the

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employer.

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Often times we see that that
debt is more than they

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originally thought or the wages
that they receive are less than

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they thought, so they're never
able to actually pay off that

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debt.

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And so they're effectively
bonded to that employer.

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Another one.

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Abusive working and living
conditions.

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Pretty self-explanatory there.

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We see a ton of conditions in in
which completely unsanitary.

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Not safe for for anyone to live.

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Just one example, but excessive
overtime, Of course overtime

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standards in each country are
different, so we have to take

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that into effect.

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For example, the US is, you
know, 40 hours of normal work.

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We can't apply that same
standard to another country

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where maybe 60 hours is the
normal kind of work week, right?

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But excessive overtime would be
going above and beyond what that

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overtime kind of rule is in that
country itself.

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And then abuse of vulnerability.

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Obviously, you can kind of tell
a lot of these go hand in hand.

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I sort of spoke to retention of
identity documents and how

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vulnerable workers are.

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But employers will often, you
know, use that vulnerability of

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workers, especially if they're
crossing borders, you know, to

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take advantage of them.

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So again, you know, I just spoke
to each of those 11 indicators a

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little bit.

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You could go into more if you
wanted to go to the ILO website,

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but importantly in terms of
Customs and Border protections,

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enforcement of forced labor, we
use these ILO indicators.

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You know, when we are
investigating alleged forced

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labor cases.

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And later on in the
presentations, Clyde Clyde is

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going to actually show you a
video that we recently released

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in terms of how to submit forced
labor allegations.

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So on the next slide, I will
speak a little bit to, yeah, our

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forced labor enforcement
process.

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And this is a general kind of
process just sort of outlining

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how our, our forced labor
enforcement goes.

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And even though this looks kind
of linear, not everything

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necessarily happens in a linear
function.

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I'll kind of get into that in a
little bit, but the first step

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in terms of the forced labor
enforcement process would be

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CBP, Customs and Border
Protection receiving an

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allegation of forced labor.

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That might come from a civil
society organization and NGO.

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It might come from a person, it
might come from someone who's

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actually involved.

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Unfortunately in that forced
labor itself, right At times we

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also self initiate cases.

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For example, a a news outlet
might come out with a story

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about forced labor that's
occurring, you know in a country

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around the world which is
importing those products to the

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US In that case, CBP might self
initiate a case to see if forced

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labor is in fact occurring in
that US supply chain.

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So then we would evaluate the
case, you know, see if there is

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evidence of forced labor, if
there is reasonable cause that

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forced labor is occurring in AUS
supply chain, we could issue

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what's called a withhold release
order that would allow us to

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detain that subject merchandise
at AUS port of entry.

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What the importer could do, you
know, at that point they could

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export the goods outside of the
US they could contest or they

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could protest.

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Importantly, if we receive or if
we find conclusive evidence of

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forced labor occurring in AUS
supply chain, we could publish

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what's called a finding that
allows CBP to actually seize the

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goods in question at AUS port of
entry.

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And then you kind of see the
last one of this process, we

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could commence A forfeiture
process penalties as well.

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And I'll kind of get into that
in the next slide as well.

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I just spoke to withhold release
orders as part of that last

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process.

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I'll kind of just go into a
little more depth in terms of

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you know what actually they are.

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So withhold release order or a
WRO, what it does is it, it

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targets a foreign good or
manufacturer and it's an

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instruction from the CBP port of
entry to detain the merchandise

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within the scope of that order.

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So again kind of going back to
what I was just just saying,

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maybe we found evidence of
forced labor occurring in AUS

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supply chain that's coming from
an entity in let's just say

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Malaysia for example.

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We would issue a withhold
release order against that

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entity.

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So that merchandise coming from
that entity would be subject,

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would be subject to that WRO and
then excluded from entry into

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the United States.

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And the standard for WRO is
reasonable.

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Suspicion again of finding just
kind of goes above and beyond

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that the target is the same, the
foreign good or manufacturer.

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This actually requires approval
of the Secretary of Homeland

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Security and again, just goes
above and beyond that kind of

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evidence, evidentiary standard.

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We would need probable cause to
publish what's called a finding.

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And another enforcement tool is
penalties.

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I won't go into too much depth
on this, but this can happen to

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AUS Importer.

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This would be a civil action
taken against that Importer who

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is importing goods made with
forced labor into the US and the

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standard for that would be
probable cause.

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So those are kind of our forced
labor enforcement tools.

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And yeah, on the next slide,
I'll speak to our active WR OS

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and findings across the world.

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You guys can always go to our
website.

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If you just Google CVP forced
labor, you will find our site

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and on our withhold release
orders and findings page, we

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always have this map updated.

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We're actually looking to have a
more interactive database or

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dashboard that is in the future
for this information.

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But we do keep this map up to
date and as you can see, most of

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the WR OS and findings kind of
going back to what I was saying

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earlier, most of the forced
labor we see across the world is

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happening in the Asia Pacific
region.

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That doesn't mean that it's not
happening elsewhere, but most of

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it we find is happening there.

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So it sort of makes sense that
our WR OS, our findings are kind

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of concentrated in that area as
well.

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So you can see China, the
biggest culprit fishing vessels

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are another big one.

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And then there's a handful of
countries around the world where

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we do have WR OS and findings,
you know, against a specific

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entity.

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00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:17.009
So as you can see, there's 51
active WR OS8 active findings

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00:15:17.009 --> 00:15:18.440
across the world.

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00:15:19.040 --> 00:15:23.222
And just in terms of some
statistics, in fiscal year 2023,

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00:15:23.222 --> 00:15:27.618
CVP stops almost 4500 shipments
valued at, you know, almost a

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00:15:27.618 --> 00:15:32.296
billion and a half dollars based
on suspicion that they were made

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00:15:32.296 --> 00:15:34.920
wholly or in part with forced
labor.

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00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:40.021
I can tell you a majority of
those shipments were actually

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00:15:40.021 --> 00:15:44.542
detained under the Uyghur Forced
Labor Prevention Act, not so

8ab09a7a-3241-401f-912e-59e4c4b58eb3-2
00:15:44.542 --> 00:15:48.990
much the wros and findings that
you see here, but Clyde will

8ab09a7a-3241-401f-912e-59e4c4b58eb3-3
00:15:48.990 --> 00:15:53.656
speak to that the UFLPA shortly
And then that last bullet there

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00:15:53.656 --> 00:15:58.104
over time, you know, over the
years that is CBP has modified

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00:15:58.104 --> 00:16:00.000
14 WR OS and two findings.

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00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:04.067
And you might be wondering what
do I mean when when I say CBP

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00:16:04.067 --> 00:16:05.120
has modified them.

9479ba03-4e31-4957-9e06-7bdc4551484a-0
00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:10.043
That means that the country
actually proved to CBP after we

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00:16:10.043 --> 00:16:13.895
issued that WRO or published
that finding that they

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00:16:13.895 --> 00:16:17.080
remediated all indicators of
forced labor.

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00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:20.480
So this of course is what we
want, right?

a85b944c-2367-4bb2-b4c7-3288550f2817-0
00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:24.040
We don't have these laws just to
have them.

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00:16:24.040 --> 00:16:28.600
We want to have an impact around
the world for good.

426bc77f-547d-4d44-a3f5-a5bc4241f88a-0
00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:33.791
So a modification to WRO and
finding it's really that success

426bc77f-547d-4d44-a3f5-a5bc4241f88a-1
00:16:33.791 --> 00:16:38.700
story that we want because it
shows that the United States has

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00:16:38.700 --> 00:16:39.480
an impact.

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00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:45.498
We can use our trade leverage to
really impact the world and make

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00:16:45.498 --> 00:16:50.240
companies you know not perform
these terrible acts.

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00:16:50.240 --> 00:16:54.329
So just wanted to kind of
highlight that it really shows

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00:16:54.329 --> 00:16:58.849
the significance that CBP and
the United States government has

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00:16:58.849 --> 00:17:02.867
across the world in terms of
improving situations of of

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00:17:02.867 --> 00:17:03.800
forced labor.

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00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:11.138
On the next slide, I'll get
into, yeah, kind of the the

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modification revocation process.

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00:17:14.120 --> 00:17:16.240
I'm not going to speak to
everything on this slide.

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00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:20.440
You can find this on our website
at any time.

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00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:23.680
Again, if you just Google CBP
forced labor, it will come up.

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00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:28.305
This is one of our fact sheets
on that website and it goes

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00:17:28.305 --> 00:17:33.480
into, you know, if we do issue a
WRO or publish a finding against

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00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:38.184
an entity and that entity wishes
to show CBP that they have

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00:17:38.184 --> 00:17:41.320
remediated those forms of forced
labor.

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00:17:42.280 --> 00:17:45.492
They could access, you know, our
resources in terms of of telling

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00:17:45.492 --> 00:17:48.120
them, you know, how they would
go about that process.

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00:17:48.120 --> 00:17:51.639
So they would submit the
information to CBP, you know

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00:17:51.639 --> 00:17:53.920
explaining how they were
mediated.

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00:17:54.560 --> 00:17:56.310
There's a lot that goes into
that in terms of the

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00:17:56.310 --> 00:17:56.800
documentation.

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00:17:56.800 --> 00:18:00.780
Of course this is this kind of
gives it a high level and then

609d75cf-0d2a-4f27-9ebf-a18859b589b4-1
00:18:00.780 --> 00:18:04.310
you know we would have
engagement between CDP and that

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00:18:04.310 --> 00:18:04.760
entity.

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00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:08.599
You know, we would determine
which of the ILO indicators were

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00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:09.160
remediated.

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00:18:09.360 --> 00:18:14.541
All of them do need to be
remediated for us to issue a

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00:18:14.541 --> 00:18:20.476
modification and then we would
in fact modify or revoke that W

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00:18:20.476 --> 00:18:23.680
those indicators were
remediated.

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00:18:25.040 --> 00:18:28.606
So that just kind of goes
through the the process of WRO

ec5c0ce6-71d7-4779-aa6c-d396f5fcdc34-1
00:18:28.606 --> 00:18:29.920
finding modification.

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00:18:30.520 --> 00:18:35.166
And on the next slide, I believe
this is where I'm going to hand

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00:18:35.166 --> 00:18:37.240
it off to my colleague Clyde.

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00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:38.640
So thanks everyone.

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00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:42.315
Clyde is going to speak to the
Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention

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00:18:42.315 --> 00:18:45.754
Act and then we should have some
time afterwards for some

625f39fe-518f-4d11-9383-68f4b9df2bfe-2
00:18:45.754 --> 00:18:48.600
questions after the he shows you
the video too.

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00:18:48.600 --> 00:18:51.080
That is so Clyde, I will hand it
off to you.

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00:18:51.120 --> 00:18:51.480
Thanks.

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00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:52.800
Thanks, Jeff.

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00:18:53.840 --> 00:18:54.120
Yeah.

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00:18:54.120 --> 00:18:58.614
So now we're going to get into
kind of more of the always love

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00:18:58.614 --> 00:19:01.040
to see the the round of
applause.

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00:19:01.040 --> 00:19:01.640
So thank you.

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00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:04.600
And I know we've seen some
questions pop up.

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00:19:04.600 --> 00:19:06.120
We're going to answer all of
those.

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00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:08.541
We're going to try to answer the
questions at the end of the

a857351d-07fa-4792-ad8d-6615de60ca1a-1
00:19:08.541 --> 00:19:09.040
presentation.

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00:19:09.040 --> 00:19:12.552
So please feel free to continue
to ask your questions in the

94e40ed4-4ed0-4ad7-9e8b-18dec0687c70-1
00:19:12.552 --> 00:19:12.840
chat.

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00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:20.793
So the Uyghur Forced Labor
Prevention Act, you may hear it

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00:19:20.793 --> 00:19:22.240
UFLPA ufopa.

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00:19:22.360 --> 00:19:24.400
I've even heard uflipa.

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00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:26.440
So all referring to the same
thing.

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00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:32.192
This was a law that was signed
into law back in 2021 and

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00:19:32.192 --> 00:19:36.200
implemented about six months
later in 2022.

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00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:40.240
If it will let me go to the next
slide.

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OK, so you all may have heard
about the rebuttable

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00:19:45.904 --> 00:19:47.200
presumption.

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00:19:48.320 --> 00:19:54.073
The big kind of overarching
thing to take away from the

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00:19:54.073 --> 00:19:59.313
UFLPA and its rebuttable
presumption is that it is

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00:19:59.313 --> 00:20:05.169
focused on goods made either
made in the Xinjiang Uyghur

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00:20:05.169 --> 00:20:11.950
Autonomous Region, EU, the XUAR,
or made by entities added to the

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00:20:11.950 --> 00:20:13.799
UFAPA entity list.

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00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:20.391
As a default, we are presuming
that if goods are on the list or

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00:20:20.391 --> 00:20:24.995
made in that region that they
have been made in whole or in

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00:20:24.995 --> 00:20:26.760
part with forced labor.

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00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:32.275
So all of that meaning that it
is prevented from coming into

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00:20:32.275 --> 00:20:34.280
the US commerce string.

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00:20:36.280 --> 00:20:40.504
So obviously if it's made in a
in a in a geographic location

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00:20:40.504 --> 00:20:42.720
that is pretty self-explanatory.

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00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:46.360
But you may be asking well then
how does it, how do how do

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00:20:46.360 --> 00:20:48.520
companies get on this entity
list?

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00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:53.435
So that's where the Forced Labor
Enforcement Task Force or

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00:20:53.435 --> 00:20:55.400
Fledith comes into play here.

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00:20:55.400 --> 00:21:00.883
So if Fledith was established
under the USMCA, it is a task

359b0e90-57b2-43aa-8b8a-4e3b337a9d56-1
00:21:00.883 --> 00:21:06.092
force that is led by DHS along
with a lot of interagency

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00:21:06.092 --> 00:21:08.560
partners that you see here.

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00:21:08.560 --> 00:21:11.055
These are what's listed on the
side are all of the voting

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00:21:11.055 --> 00:21:11.400
members.

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00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:14.480
So I'm not going to go and read
into every one of those.

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00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:19.212
It is important to note CBP
serves as an observer, so we are

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00:21:19.212 --> 00:21:21.560
not a voting member on the
flood.

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00:21:21.560 --> 00:21:27.411
If however obviously having a
lot of impact by by the UFLPA,

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00:21:27.411 --> 00:21:33.453
we are an observer role so any
questions that may come up that

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00:21:33.453 --> 00:21:39.496
are are counterparts may need
assistance with we are in in the

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00:21:39.496 --> 00:21:40.359
meetings.

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00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:46.677
So what the fletev does as far
as UFLPA, they create their

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00:21:46.677 --> 00:21:52.133
enforcement strategy and they
are the ones who add or remove

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00:21:52.133 --> 00:21:54.280
entities from this list.

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00:21:55.400 --> 00:22:01.054
So again, this entire process to
get added to this entity list to

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00:22:01.054 --> 00:22:06.280
be subject to that rebuttable
presumption all begins here at

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00:22:06.280 --> 00:22:07.480
the the flood.

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00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:13.518
If so, you may have heard kind
of applicability and exception,

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00:22:13.518 --> 00:22:18.120
sorry exceptions and and
applicability reviews.

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00:22:18.120 --> 00:22:20.000
So again this is important to
remember.

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00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:28.177
If someone is asking for an
exception to Uhfalpa, it is them

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00:22:28.177 --> 00:22:29.400
saying yes.

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00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:34.091
I understand that there is a
rebuttable presumption these

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00:22:34.091 --> 00:22:38.578
goods were made by a company on
the entity list or these goods

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00:22:38.578 --> 00:22:41.000
were made in the Xinjiang
region.

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00:22:41.320 --> 00:22:47.240
However, the supply chain did
not touch Xinjiang.

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00:22:47.840 --> 00:22:50.720
Or you know, they're asking for
that exception.

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00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:52.360
Sorry, apologize.

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00:22:52.840 --> 00:22:56.115
So yes, that we understand that
it touched the rebuttable

372ef026-176d-45a3-89b3-c962c8297a59-1
00:22:56.115 --> 00:22:59.560
presumption, but we are asking
for an exception here, right?

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00:22:59.560 --> 00:23:02.737
We are saying that we understand
that that this falls under the

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00:23:02.737 --> 00:23:03.880
rebuttable presumption.

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00:23:04.120 --> 00:23:07.996
However, we are asking you to
rebut that presumption and we

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00:23:07.996 --> 00:23:12.003
are going to those companies are
going to show proof that the

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00:23:12.003 --> 00:23:15.040
goods were not in fact made with
forced labor.

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00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:17.400
This is different from
applicability review.

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00:23:17.560 --> 00:23:21.834
An applicability review is where
we CDP are saying we believe

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00:23:21.834 --> 00:23:26.314
that these goods were made here
and you are saying actually, no,

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they were not.

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These goods were not made by
entities on the entity list.

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These goods were not made in
whole or in part in Xinjiang and

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so therefore these goods should
be allowed in.

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So they serve more or less the
same purpose of getting goods

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into our commerce stream.

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However, depending on how the
importer believes that their

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goods are affected, either
they're admitting that their

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goods are on our list and should
they're hoping to rebut the

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presumption, or they're saying
we, we CDP, have made a mistake

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and that the goods in question
are not subject to the UEFA Paul

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rebuttable presumption.

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Here you'll see a lot of our
resources.

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So as you may have questions, of
course you can reach out to us.

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We have a few emails that you
can reach out to depending on

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your question.

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If it's specific to Oofopa
right, we have the Oofopa

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inquiry e-mail.

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If you need engagement request,
we have that the partner

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engagements e-mail as well as
the general forced Labor

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Division e-mail.

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We also have a few of our web
pages.

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So here you can see how to
report trade violations

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allegations as well as a lot of
information from various web

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pages that cover forced labor.

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And so now we want to show you
this video.

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We're really proud of it.

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So this again speaks to
submitting an allegation.

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So we are going to play that for
you now.

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Welcome to the US Customs and
Border Protection's Forced Labor

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video series.

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In this brief video, we will
outline how to submit

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allegations of forced labor in
AUS bound supply chain to CBP,

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including where to submit them
and what to include in the

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allegation.

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Allegations of forced labor
occurring in the production of

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goods imported into the United
States should be submitted via

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CB PS E Allegations website.

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These include allegations of
forced labor violations under

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Section 307 of the Tariff Act of
1930, the Uyghur Forced Labor

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Prevention Act, and Countering
America's Adversaries Through

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Sanctions Act, which prohibit
importation of any goods, mind

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produced or manufactured wholly
or in part by convict labor or

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forced labor.

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There are four major aspects
that are important for an

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allegation to develop into an
investigation and possible

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enforcement identification of
specific merchandise made by

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forced labor.

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Forced labor Evidence supporting
the allegation a connection

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between the product produced and
US imports, and the time frame

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of all the above 3 aspects.

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Allegations of goods made with
forced labor must be

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substantiated with specific
evidence and presented in

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English.

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Evidence of importation of goods
tainted by forced labor should

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show the sequence of steps
involved in the processing of

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the alleged items.

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The information of all the above
3 aspects should be recent,

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within the latest two years for
CBP to take enforcement actions

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to stop the merchandise made
with forced labor from entering

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the US.

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Please note CB PS legal
Authority is to prohibit all

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goods produced with forced labor
under P no sanction from

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entering the US.

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This includes imported goods
that are mined, produced or

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manufactured wholly or in part
in any foreign country by

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convict labor, forced labor, or
indentured labor.

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Although all forced labor falls
in a category of violations of

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human rights, CBP does not have
enforcement authorities to cover

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all violations of human rights.

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To submit an allegation, the
Ledger should navigate to CB PS

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E Allegations website at
eallegations.cbp.gov/S/there

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they should click on the Report
Trade Violations button where

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they will be prompted to enter
their contact details.

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Allegers have the option to
remain anonymous, however,

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providing CBP with contact
information will allow CBP to

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ask follow up questions and
request additional information

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about your allegation.

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Additionally, providing contact
information will also allow CBP

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to provide status updates on
your allegation.

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The next set of information
requested are the allegation

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details.

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This information should include
the type of allegation being

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submitted.

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For example, allegations
involving forced labor, prison

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labor, or forced child labor.

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The time frame in which the
violation occurred should also

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be submitted along with any
additional information,

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including whether any lawsuits
relating to the allegation have

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been filed.

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Lastly, the Alleger should
provide details of the alleged

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tainted supply chain and any
supporting evidence such as

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interview transcripts and
audits.

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Please reference the Allegation
Submission Checklist and

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Recommended Guidelines for
Supporting documentation located

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on cbp.gov/trade/force Dash
Labor For more information.

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Timelines for investigating
forced labor allegations will

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vary depending on the allegation
and the type of violation

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alleged, and other specific
factors which may arise in each

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particular case.

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Following the review phase, CBP
may decide to accept the

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allegation for investigation,
refer the allegation to other

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CBP offices for review or
investigation, request

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additional information from the
alleger, or reject an

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allegation.

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The investigative phase will
depend on the complexity of the

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case, facts available to CBP and
CB, PS ability to corroborate

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the information received.

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If you have questions about
forced labor allegations, please

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visit cbp.gov/trade/force Dash
Labor.

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We thank you for taking the time
to watch this informational

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video and hope you'll TuneIn for
additional segments of our

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00:29:35.789 --> 00:29:37.120
forced Labor video series.

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So, Chris, I feel very supported
by your use of the emojis and

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welcome to the process.

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All right.

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Yeah.

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So everyone just to recap,
right, so much like Jeff was

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speaking on earlier, right.

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This entire process oftentimes
starts with allegations.

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And so it is very important that
as you all may hear of things in

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your course of business of
possible forced labor incidences

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00:30:19.693 --> 00:30:20.520
occurring.

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As you can see, we are trying to
make sure that there is a fair

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playing field throughout the
World Trade.

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So we appreciate that just right
here.

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Just want to kind of show this
is just AQR code where you can

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get access to some of our
information and resources.

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So feel free to access that.

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And also I know a lot of you all
may be here.

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I know Chrissy had put in the
chat about the CCSCES credits,

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so there's a link and AQR code
as well.

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And so yes, so you have that
code and and can get your credit

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for continued education.

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And with that, I know we've seen
some questions in the chat I'd

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like to ask.

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I know we have someone
monitoring the chat, so if we

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can get into those questions
that would be great.

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Thank you, Clyde.

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So our first question is what is
the final disposition of

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detained and seized goods when
not remediated or importer

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00:31:46.085 --> 00:31:51.672
cannot successfully prove that
forced labor was not involved in

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00:31:51.672 --> 00:31:54.640
the production of imported
goods.

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And then there is a follow up to
that question.

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If you want to answer that one
first or you want me to continue

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reading, you're fine.

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I'll try to address this first
one.

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I'm just reading it through
again in my head.

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Sorry, that's OK.

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Well, let me read it out loud
for everyone else.

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So then the other question is,
is there a period of time

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allotted prior to final
disposition?

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That's two questions from that
one.

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So yeah, I'm not going to get
into the exact timelines.

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I think you could, you could
find those on our on our site,

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00:32:30.823 --> 00:32:34.480
but there there is a period of
time in which you know the

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importer has to to submit the
required information to CVP.

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So if they're saying, hey CVP,
you know, you detained our

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00:32:41.516 --> 00:32:44.832
goods, I get that, you know
there is a required amount of

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time that you as the importer
would have to submit that

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00:32:48.033 --> 00:32:49.119
information to CVP.

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Not going to get into the
timeline so much here, but you

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00:32:54.667 --> 00:32:56.880
could find those on our site.

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OK.

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And then our next question is
how are you addressing the

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00:33:07.687 --> 00:33:12.367
forced labour, the forced child
labour, excuse me, occurring in

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00:33:12.367 --> 00:33:15.000
the Congo for the mining of
cobalt.

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What about forced child labor
for cocoa production in?

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I'm not even going to try to
pronounce that in Ghana.

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It's ivory, Ivory Coast, no
worries.

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Thank you.

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Does the influence and value of
large multinational and or US

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00:33:34.929 --> 00:33:39.979
corporations that benefit from
this labor have any bearing on

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00:33:39.979 --> 00:33:41.120
your findings?

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Yeah, sure.

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And I I can address that too.

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Obviously I'm not going to speak
to any active active cases or

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00:33:49.614 --> 00:33:53.751
anything, but I I can tell you
absolutely I know we are

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00:33:53.751 --> 00:33:58.480
addressing and very aware of of
these cases that you mentioned.

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Specifically I I've heard these
around the Grapevine.

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Clyde and I are not active in in
terms of we're not there in the

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00:34:05.579 --> 00:34:09.314
active investigations and we
wouldn't be allowed to speak to

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00:34:09.314 --> 00:34:10.600
them even if we were.

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But I I can tell you these are
absolutely on our radar.

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Does the influence and value of
large multinational or US

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00:34:19.698 --> 00:34:23.000
corporations that benefit have
any bearing on your findings?

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You know the ideal answer is no,
right.

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We we take forced labor at at
what it is just because of

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00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:37.640
multinational US corporation
that you know is is benefiting

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00:34:37.640 --> 00:34:39.800
the US economy if you will.

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It doesn't matter if they're if
they're engaged in forced labor

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even if their subsidiaries are
engaged and then they're

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claiming that they don't know
about it.

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That doesn't have any bearing on
our on our cases.

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We are going to look at what's
going on objectively and make a

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00:34:57.513 --> 00:35:01.244
determination, you know, that
forced labor is or isn't

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00:35:01.244 --> 00:35:05.314
occurring based off of the
evidence that we receive on that

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00:35:05.314 --> 00:35:06.399
particular case.

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OK, thank you.

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Our next question is we applaud
CE PS commitment to combating

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00:35:15.601 --> 00:35:18.600
forced labor and producing this
video series.

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However, with 63% of the goods
initially detained being

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00:35:23.632 --> 00:35:28.972
released because no forced labor
could be found, the trade also

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00:35:28.972 --> 00:35:32.560
needs information, videos, FAQs,
etcetera.

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As to how to get out of the
detention loop that can cause

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00:35:37.447 --> 00:35:42.326
shipment after shipment with the
same supply chain being detained

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00:35:42.326 --> 00:35:44.839
repeatedly before being
released.

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00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:49.760
Are those trade facing resources
coming down the pipeline soon?

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00:35:51.520 --> 00:35:54.926
Yeah, great question and totally
understand you know where you're

29dd3c3d-9921-4fa4-8f3e-18e0963d6992-1
00:35:54.926 --> 00:35:57.920
coming from and it's frustrating
as an importer for sure.

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00:35:58.000 --> 00:35:58.680
We get that.

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You know, we do have some
resources on this.

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00:36:01.560 --> 00:36:05.818
If you go to our UFLPA FAQs,
there's there's a question kind

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00:36:05.818 --> 00:36:08.960
of specifically on this this
loop situation.

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I don't think we use the word
loop in the actual Q&A, but

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00:36:12.148 --> 00:36:14.360
and I can direct folks to that
afterwards.

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00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.040
But thank you for the question.

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It This is why it's good for us
to have these conversations.

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00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.240
You know, we want to hear those
problems that you're having.

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00:36:22.240 --> 00:36:24.932
You know, we're not just
addressing forced labor,

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00:36:24.932 --> 00:36:27.840
enforcing it and and not
communicating to the public.

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That's that's why Clyde and I
are here with you today and and

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00:36:31.209 --> 00:36:33.600
we appreciate the concerns that
you raised.

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00:36:33.600 --> 00:36:36.600
That's how we can do better as
an agency.

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00:36:37.120 --> 00:36:39.947
You know we're obviously here to
enforce the law that that's the

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00:36:39.947 --> 00:36:40.600
most important.

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00:36:41.600 --> 00:36:43.480
But we also want to hear your
concerns, right?

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00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:46.849
And how can we enforce the law
better and how can we help you

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00:36:46.849 --> 00:36:50.219
throughout this whole process
and facilitate commerce as well

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00:36:50.219 --> 00:36:52.720
as we can while of course,
enforcing the law.

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00:36:52.720 --> 00:36:56.849
So yes, of course, more
resources are coming down the

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00:36:56.849 --> 00:36:57.920
pipeline soon.

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This is a question that we ask a
lot, and I can't tell you if a

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00:37:02.858 --> 00:37:07.410
video is going to be released on
this very soon, but we're

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00:37:07.410 --> 00:37:09.880
releasing 2 new FAQs each month.

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We do have a video coming up on
importer options in the event

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00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:20.880
that their goods are detained
under a WRO or finding, and then

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00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:24.480
another on the UFLPA coming
later this year.

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So those resources are coming
out.

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The forced labor division as a
whole is relatively new, so

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00:37:31.544 --> 00:37:34.792
we're still trying to grapple
around getting all of these

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00:37:34.792 --> 00:37:38.040
resources out because there's so
much going on right now.

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00:37:38.040 --> 00:37:41.932
There's so much money,
fortunately from Congress being

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00:37:41.932 --> 00:37:45.400
pumped into forced labor to
combat these issues.

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00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:49.017
So that's great And we're trying
to figure out as best we can how

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00:37:49.017 --> 00:37:51.320
to get those resources out there
for you.

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00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:54.032
So again, really appreciate the
question and and this is

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00:37:54.032 --> 00:37:56.888
something that we are absolutely
looking into and trying to

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00:37:56.888 --> 00:37:58.840
provide as much as we can going
forward.

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Thank you.

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Our next question or maybe more
of a statement, it would also be

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00:38:08.177 --> 00:38:12.625
helpful to the trade if CBP
would share with the members of

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00:38:12.625 --> 00:38:16.924
the trade who experience
repeated detentions and releases

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00:38:16.924 --> 00:38:21.519
some insight into what part of
the product is being targeted.

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For example, for textiles it is
the cloth thread, fastenings,

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00:38:26.101 --> 00:38:26.720
etcetera.

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00:38:27.160 --> 00:38:31.291
The legitimate trade community
wants to partner with CBP to try

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00:38:31.291 --> 00:38:35.357
and stop forced labor goods from
being brought into the supply

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00:38:35.357 --> 00:38:39.360
chain before they get into the
US border or to the US border.

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00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:40.000
Excuse me.

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By the time the goods get to the
US port to be detained, the bad

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00:38:45.172 --> 00:38:47.160
guys have already been paid.

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00:38:47.520 --> 00:38:51.315
We want as much insight as CVP
can give us to try and keep

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00:38:51.315 --> 00:38:53.760
forced labor out of the supply
chain.

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Yeah.

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And and thanks for that.

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That's I think towards the end
of that you make a key sort of

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00:39:02.702 --> 00:39:03.200
point.

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00:39:03.200 --> 00:39:05.360
I think you probably know where
I'm going to go with this.

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00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.880
As much information as CVP can
give you, right?

960b7e20-ae9f-4e53-94ac-6377e5c02f8e-0
00:39:09.720 --> 00:39:11.720
We can only give so much
information.

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00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:15.808
There's a law called the Trade
Secrets Act that prohibits us

7f3e401f-db3a-47ff-8faa-cca836a2d1a8-1
00:39:15.808 --> 00:39:19.353
from from giving away certain
information and that that's for

7f3e401f-db3a-47ff-8faa-cca836a2d1a8-2
00:39:19.353 --> 00:39:20.440
good reason, right?

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00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:24.480
We, we still need to have
competition across the board.

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00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:27.715
We can't give too much
information to companies in

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00:39:27.715 --> 00:39:31.840
terms of, you know, secrets that
help businesses do well, right.

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00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:34.742
Of course, if, you know, forced
labor is occurring that it's

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00:39:34.742 --> 00:39:37.644
kind of a different thing and
there's certain things that we

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00:39:37.644 --> 00:39:38.120
can share.

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00:39:38.120 --> 00:39:41.600
But with that said, we have to
strike that balance.

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00:39:41.600 --> 00:39:45.469
And you know, I I'm not going to
come here and and tell you that

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00:39:45.469 --> 00:39:48.803
we can provide all of that
information that you want in

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00:39:48.803 --> 00:39:51.720
terms of, you know, you're
bringing up textiles.

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00:39:51.720 --> 00:39:55.991
You know, bring up the the claw
thread fastenings that are that

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00:39:55.991 --> 00:39:59.996
are part of that, as well as
even even members of the trade

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00:39:59.996 --> 00:40:02.800
who are experiencing repeated
detentions.

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00:40:03.160 --> 00:40:06.495
You know, that's not necessarily
something that we can share to

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00:40:06.495 --> 00:40:08.840
the public or or should share to
the public.

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So I guess my answer for this,
it's, it's a little ambiguous,

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00:40:14.012 --> 00:40:17.765
but you know, we can't provide
information that we're not

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00:40:17.765 --> 00:40:21.713
allowed to, whether it's the
Trade Secrets Act or other laws

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00:40:21.713 --> 00:40:25.143
that prevent us from, you know,
sharing that type of

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00:40:25.143 --> 00:40:25.920
information.

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00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:29.462
If you go to our UFLPA dashboard
for example, you know there's

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00:40:29.462 --> 00:40:32.835
certain data that we can share
with the public, others that

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00:40:32.835 --> 00:40:36.434
that we can't and we're always
going to get the questions, hey,

7018981c-3831-48e9-9dd2-8dd99130a318-3
00:40:36.434 --> 00:40:39.920
CVP can can you go in some more
granular level detail, right.

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00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:43.476
And we actually released an FAQ
on that last month just because

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00:40:43.476 --> 00:40:46.200
you know, we're getting so many
questions on it.

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00:40:46.200 --> 00:40:49.557
But there's always going to be
those things that folks want

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00:40:49.557 --> 00:40:53.249
more of and I get that if I were
an importer, I would want it to,

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00:40:53.249 --> 00:40:55.319
but we have to be careful with
that.

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00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:56.760
We have to strike that balance.

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00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:58.320
So thanks for the question.

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00:41:00.240 --> 00:41:00.720
Thank you.

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Our next question is can the
link be provided for referencing

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00:41:05.951 --> 00:41:10.243
information on the final
disposition slash detention of

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00:41:10.243 --> 00:41:12.160
the goods on CBP website?

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00:41:12.680 --> 00:41:17.209
This information was not found
outside of responses response

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00:41:17.209 --> 00:41:21.812
times from the importer goods
excuse me, goods destruction or

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00:41:21.812 --> 00:41:24.560
indefinitely detained and in
stored.

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00:41:27.080 --> 00:41:31.332
So my direct answer would be
probably not but I would

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00:41:31.332 --> 00:41:36.215
encourage folks to work with the
CBP centers of excellence in

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00:41:36.215 --> 00:41:37.160
this regard.

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There's different centers of
excellence that deal with the

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00:41:41.549 --> 00:41:45.400
different products and as well
as the the actual port of entry.

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00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:49.747
So I don't have a great answer
to this question, but I I would

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00:41:49.747 --> 00:41:54.163
really hope that that folks that
importers are working with the

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00:41:54.163 --> 00:41:58.096
the US port of entry and working
with the CBP centers of

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00:41:58.096 --> 00:41:59.960
excellence on getting that.

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OK, thank you.

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Our next question is how does
this policy reconcile with

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00:42:08.950 --> 00:42:12.400
forced labor that is occurring
in the US prison system?

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00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.726
For example, five states,
Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia,

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00:42:16.726 --> 00:42:21.000
Mississippi and Texas forced
prisoners to work without pay.

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Direct answer, it doesn't.

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00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:29.564
If this is happening,
unfortunately that that is

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00:42:29.564 --> 00:42:30.160
terrible.

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00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:34.797
What we're talking about is, is
customs enforcement of of forced

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00:42:34.797 --> 00:42:35.200
labor.

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00:42:35.200 --> 00:42:38.688
So we're talking about goods
that are coming in from a

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00:42:38.688 --> 00:42:42.303
different country that are
produced with forced labor so

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00:42:42.303 --> 00:42:46.426
that you know if there's forced
prison labor occurring in the US

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00:42:46.426 --> 00:42:50.358
itself that would fall under
different legislation, different

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enforcement.

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I believe the FBI would get
involved, but that's just my

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00:42:54.436 --> 00:42:56.240
anecdotal kind of take on that.

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Again, direct answer would be
that that would not fall within

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00:43:01.112 --> 00:43:02.120
our jurisdiction.

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Thanks.

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OK, thank you.

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And this is the last question,
unless someone else has any

d36da5f5-32fb-4581-a3b4-1c4b2ff73943-1
00:43:12.640 --> 00:43:17.440
additional questions, this one
says please reconfirm forced

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00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:20.560
labor applies to de minimis
shipments.

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00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:24.312
Has there ever been a
consideration for small

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00:43:24.312 --> 00:43:28.704
businesses getting clear and
convincing evidence for example

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00:43:28.704 --> 00:43:32.160
down to the bail level for
cotton shirts can be

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00:43:32.160 --> 00:43:34.680
unattainable for small
businesses.

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Yeah.

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00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:38.600
And this is this is it's it's a
tough one.

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00:43:39.120 --> 00:43:42.623
We get it for small businesses
it it's hard to get that

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00:43:42.623 --> 00:43:46.440
information and believe me we're
we're fully aware and we're

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00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:50.193
trying to develop resources on
that specifically because we

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00:43:50.193 --> 00:43:53.947
know you small businesses, even
medium sized businesses you

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00:43:53.947 --> 00:43:57.326
struggle more in terms of
finding that information as

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00:43:57.326 --> 00:44:00.767
compared to a a large
multinational who could you know

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00:44:00.767 --> 00:44:04.833
pay for you know contractors to
come in and really map out there

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00:44:04.833 --> 00:44:05.960
that supply chain.

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00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:06.640
We get that.

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00:44:06.640 --> 00:44:10.300
I would really encourage folks
to utilize the resources that

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00:44:10.300 --> 00:44:14.200
are available, whether it's our
website and we do have resources

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00:44:14.200 --> 00:44:17.920
in terms of due diligence and
supply chain mapping as well as

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00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:21.460
the Department of Labor's
website, especially their comply

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00:44:21.460 --> 00:44:24.520
chain site has a lot of great
information on this.

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00:44:25.160 --> 00:44:26.920
But I totally get your point.

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00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:29.754
It's hard for small businesses
and and we're trying to do the

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00:44:29.754 --> 00:44:31.720
best we can to to facilitate
that for you.

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To directly answer your first
question, there's no, there's no

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00:44:36.523 --> 00:44:38.560
exception for de minimis
shipments.

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So anything you know whether
it's 800 below 800, you know

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00:44:42.938 --> 00:44:44.320
above that as well.

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00:44:44.720 --> 00:44:48.405
If it's made with forced labor,
it's not allowed into the US

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00:44:48.405 --> 00:44:52.090
obviously there there's issues
with that for sure and we are

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00:44:52.090 --> 00:44:55.775
absolutely aware and and doing
our best to to to tackle that

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00:44:55.775 --> 00:44:59.158
and we should have more
resources on that in the future

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00:44:59.158 --> 00:44:59.400
too.

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The de minimis question comes up
a lot, but I can tell you

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00:45:02.642 --> 00:45:05.720
directly there's no exception
for de minimis shipments.

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00:45:06.600 --> 00:45:06.920
Thanks.

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OK.

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00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:15.280
Do we have any additional
questions?

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00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:17.920
If so, please add those to the
chat now.

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00:45:19.040 --> 00:45:20.080
Oh, we just got one in.

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00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:25.918
Is there any ability to put the
onus on Amazon slash the

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00:45:25.918 --> 00:45:31.440
e-commerce entities instead of
the customers and the end users?

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00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:36.648
Is there an ability, you know,
we're going to get back to you

3d24869b-f6d3-4ef3-9d84-d43195d7a4cb-1
00:45:36.648 --> 00:45:37.000
on that?

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00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:38.240
I'm, I'm not direct.

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00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:41.939
I'm not totally sure how I would
address that on today's call or

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00:45:41.939 --> 00:45:42.840
or how I should.

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00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:44.960
So let's get back to you on that
one.

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00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:48.040
Good question though.

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00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:50.840
OK.

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00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:55.280
Do we have any additional
questions?

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00:45:56.040 --> 00:45:57.880
If so, please put them in the
chat.

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00:46:12.590 --> 00:46:13.150
OK.

00090d5d-19f1-4762-ae5b-c64e9987cc84-0
00:46:13.510 --> 00:46:16.630
I don't see any additional
questions coming through.

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00:46:16.630 --> 00:46:19.870
I don't know if you, you guys
want to wrap things up.

391e2ce8-b935-445e-aed2-2cb00a725ea5-0
00:46:21.110 --> 00:46:23.430
Yeah, no, just want to say thank
you everyone.

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00:46:23.430 --> 00:46:26.030
Again, really appreciate you
being here.

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00:46:26.030 --> 00:46:29.518
For one, this is, of course,
it's a terrible issue, but it's

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00:46:29.518 --> 00:46:31.520
one that we we need to talk
about.

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00:46:32.200 --> 00:46:35.577
And the fact that the United
States can use, you know, our

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00:46:35.577 --> 00:46:38.440
trade arm to do good around the
world is awesome.

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00:46:38.560 --> 00:46:39.760
That's what we want, right.

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00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:43.708
And we do see it having a really
significant impact across the

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00:46:43.708 --> 00:46:45.840
world and that that is
wonderful.

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00:46:46.640 --> 00:46:49.240
Of course, there's going to be
hiccups along the way.

e50e5991-5a15-48ee-a109-5ce2f5d976b8-0
00:46:49.600 --> 00:46:52.157
We, the US government, we
Customs and Motor Protection,

e50e5991-5a15-48ee-a109-5ce2f5d976b8-1
00:46:52.157 --> 00:46:54.989
we're not perfect and that's why
we want to keep having these

e50e5991-5a15-48ee-a109-5ce2f5d976b8-2
00:46:54.989 --> 00:46:56.040
conversations with you.

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00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:57.840
You know, you can ask the tough
questions.

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That's OK.

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I might not be able to, we might
not be able to answer each and

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every one of them and and that's
OK asking those questions is, is

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what we want.

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It forces us to do our job.

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It forces us to do it better.

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So keep having these discussions
and we really appreciate your

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time and look forward to
engaging in the future.

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Thanks.

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