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Good afternoon, I am Nicois
Harris with CBP's Office of

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Trade relations. Today's webinar is
on what is a rib-knit tightening

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according to chapter 61 note 4.

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And now I'd like to pass it on
over to National Import

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Specialist, Miss Renee Orsat.

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Thank you, Nicois.

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Well, good day everyone.

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Today we are going to find out
what is a rib knit tightening

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according to chapter 61 note 4.

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I just want to let you know this
is a very short presentation so

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as not to confuse anyone.

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We have several examples of just
about every what is not a ribnet

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tightening that we can give you
and also not to confuse you.

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All right, let's get started,
OK?

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Our mission is to protect the
American people, safeguard our

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borders, and enhance the
nation's economic prosperity.

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The Office of Trade facilitates
legitimate trade, enforces US

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laws, and protects the American
economy to ensure consumer

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safety and to create a level
playing field for American

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businesses.

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We have a couple of disclaimers,
so I'll start with the first

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one.

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This seminar.

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What is a Rib Knit tightening
according to Chapter 61 Note for

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is for general information
purposes and is intended to

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provide guidance and information
to the trade community to

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promote the understanding of and
compliance with importing laws

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and regulations.

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Legislative and administrative
changes are always under

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consideration and can occur at
any time.

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Therefore, the information
contained herein should not be

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interpreted to indicate a
certain result will occur in a

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particular situation.

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19 CFR 177.9 B provides that the
application of a ruling letter

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by ACBP field Office to the
transaction to which it is

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purported to relate is subject
to the verification of the facts

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incorporated in the ruling
letter.

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A comparison of the transactions
described therein to the actual

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transaction and the satisfaction
of any conditions on which the

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ruling was based.

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Recognizing that many
complicated factors may be

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involved in customs issues, an
importer may wish to obtain a

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ruling under CBP regulations, 19
CFR part 177, or obtain guidance

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from private sector experts who
specialize in customs matters,

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such as a licensed customs
broker, an attorney, or

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consultant.

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Reliance solely on the general
information in this webinar may

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not be considered reasonable
care and this is the last

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disclaimer.

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provided.

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The audio visual media is
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OK, oh gosh, glad we got all
that out of the way.

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So we do have an electronic
rulings program, which is we

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have that because many
complicated factors can be

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involved in customs issues, an
importer may wish to obtain a

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binding ruling under the
regulation of US Customs and

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Border Protection.

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19 CFR Part 177, or may wish to
obtain advice from an expert who

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specializes in customs matters,
for example, a licensed custom

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broker, attorney or consultant.

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Now, I just want to let you know
that the NCSD is a huge fan of

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the Electronic Rulings program
and it's free.

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OK, this webinar, the topic and
previous topics that have been

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covered have been recorded and
are or will be available on our

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website listed below.

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There are a few things that
really will facilitate the

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classification of your garments
and it's a little ruling

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checklist that really if you
have all of this information, it

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really will help us and will
alleviate any rejections or

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questions delaying the response.

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So first, always, always, always
when you are submitting and then

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a wearing apparel garment, you
must submit a sample size in an

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adult medium.

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If we don't have that sample, we
will reject your request.

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So this is a very important
thing to have when you are going

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to submit your binding ruling
request, whether by letter or

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through the electronic ruling
program.

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We need the overall fiber
content of the garment by

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weight, so 90% polyester, 10%
cotton.

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We need the construction of the
garment.

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Is it a knit or woven garment?

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And we need the stitch count.

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So those four items should
really you should have all of

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that before you're going to
submit your electronic ruling

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request or a written request.

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All right, we're going to answer
the questions at the end of the

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webinar.

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I'm sorry, I didn't mention that
earlier.

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Here is my contact information.

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I am NIS 359 and my associate is
Ivory Wong, who is excellent.

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Some of the tools, well I should
say the tools that we mainly use

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for classification is a
mannequin, measuring tape, a pic

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glass so to count stitches, a
ruler to measure the centimeters

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when counting stitches, scissors
and a seam Ripper and of course

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the garment itself.

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Now the famous chapter 61 note
for is at since 2022.

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We had a few changes and there
are some descriptions that were

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not clear to us and we requested
clarification from headquarters.

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So heading 61 O 5 and 61 O 6.

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Do not cover garments with
pockets below the waist with a

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ribbed waistband or other means
of tightening at the bottom of

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the garment.

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In this context, the ribbed
waistband is considered a

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tightening.

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OK, especially if it's at the
bottom of the garment.

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And I'm going to let you know
what is a tightening?

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Garments having an average of
less than 10 stitches per linear

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centimeter in each direction,
counted on an area measuring at

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least 10 centimeters by 10
centimeters.

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This is where the ruler comes
in.

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Heading 61 O 5 does not cover
sleeveless garments.

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Shirts and shirt blouses are
garments designed to cover the

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upper part of the body having
long or short sleeves and a full

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or partial opening starting at
the neckline.

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Blouses are loose fitting
garments also designed to cover

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the upper part of the body, but
may be sleeveless and with or

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without an opening at the
neckline.

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Shirts, shirt blouses and
blouses may also have a collar.

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OK, so we're going to
concentrate, concentrate today

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on paragraph one ribbed
waistband or other means of

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00:11:42.368 --> 00:11:43.480
tightening.

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00:11:43.920 --> 00:11:51.098
We've covered what is a loose
fitting garment so many times,

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00:11:51.098 --> 00:11:58.747
so now we're going to move on to
the next other qualifying part,

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00:11:58.747 --> 00:12:02.160
which is the rib knit bottom.

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00:12:08.230 --> 00:12:10.470
All right, what is a tightening?

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00:12:12.590 --> 00:12:15.230
A rib knit tightening or other
means.

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00:12:18.670 --> 00:12:25.172
In Headquarters Ruling H 334342
dated November 14th, 2023,

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00:12:25.172 --> 00:12:31.565
Headquarters noted that the
ribbed net waistband needs to

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00:12:31.565 --> 00:12:38.398
provide a means of tightening
all around at the bottom of the

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00:12:38.398 --> 00:12:39.279
garment.

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00:12:46.860 --> 00:12:51.620
Other means of tightening could
be a drawstring or elastic.

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00:12:57.470 --> 00:13:05.097
All right, this is sample #1
this is a pullover garment with

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00:13:05.097 --> 00:13:12.600
long sleeves and rib knit cuffs
and a ribbed banded bottom.

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00:13:13.880 --> 00:13:18.999
So whenever we receive the
sample, we take three pictures

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00:13:18.999 --> 00:13:24.030
and I know we've mentioned this
before and several other

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00:13:24.030 --> 00:13:29.414
webinars, we take a picture of
the garment on the mannequin,

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00:13:29.414 --> 00:13:32.680
the front, the back and a side
view.

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00:13:33.680 --> 00:13:40.051
So if we're looking at the front
view of this sample, we can see

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00:13:40.051 --> 00:13:45.835
that it pretty much hugs this
rib knit banding pretty much

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00:13:45.835 --> 00:13:49.560
hugs the the the form, the
mannequin.

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00:13:50.560 --> 00:13:53.680
When we turn it around, we see
the same thing.

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00:13:55.400 --> 00:14:01.494
It fits very snugly at the
bottom and the side view, it's

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00:14:01.494 --> 00:14:07.800
snug in the back and it's snug
in the front from the sides.

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00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:16.799
So this would be considered a
rib knit tightening at the

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00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:24.491
bottom of the garment and only
this snug fitting rib knit

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00:14:24.491 --> 00:14:31.520
bottom is acceptable according
to Chapter 61 note 4.

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00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:39.292
There are no what ifs in this
webinar because we only deal

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00:14:39.292 --> 00:14:43.920
with the sample at hand or the
sample before us.

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00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:53.190
So as you can see, we got a
little close up, snug at the

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00:14:53.190 --> 00:14:57.240
bottom, snug on the front side
and the backside.

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00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:03.360
That's pretty clear.

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00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:04.920
This is it.

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00:15:04.920 --> 00:15:06.600
This is your description.

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00:15:10.560 --> 00:15:16.724
All right now sample 2 has a rib
knit bottom and when you look on

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00:15:16.724 --> 00:15:22.889
it at it from the front view, it
does seem like there's it's snug

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00:15:22.889 --> 00:15:27.560
fitting as well as the sides
from the front view.

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00:15:27.920 --> 00:15:34.476
But when we take a picture of
the side view, there's this gap

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00:15:34.476 --> 00:15:35.640
right here.

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00:15:35.640 --> 00:15:42.005
So that is not snug next to the
form and the backside of the

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00:15:42.005 --> 00:15:42.840
garment.

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00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:45.360
You can also see there is a gap.

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00:15:46.640 --> 00:15:50.000
I don't think that would be
considered.

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00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:54.560
In fact, I know it would not be
considered tight fitting.

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00:15:55.560 --> 00:16:01.560
So do we have a ribbed knit
tight fitting bottom?

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00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:03.800
No, we don't.

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00:16:07.680 --> 00:16:09.480
I think this is pretty clear.

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00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:19.625
So once again I'm going to show
you from the back there is a gap

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00:16:19.625 --> 00:16:21.440
from the side.

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00:16:21.560 --> 00:16:27.211
You could see a gap in the back
and in the front, ever so

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00:16:27.211 --> 00:16:32.960
slightly in the front, but very,
very obvious in the back.

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00:16:34.280 --> 00:16:42.599
So this rib knit bottom does not
fit tight around the entire

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00:16:42.599 --> 00:16:45.600
bottom of the garment.

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00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:50.520
This also is extremely clear.

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00:17:00.710 --> 00:17:01.270
OK.

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00:17:01.270 --> 00:17:06.044
So we stepped away from the
so-called pullovers,

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00:17:06.044 --> 00:17:11.792
sweatshirts, etcetera, and we're
going to move into just a

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00:17:11.792 --> 00:17:14.910
regular pullover, knit pullover.

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00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:19.000
So we put it on the mannequin.

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00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:22.560
We have the front, the back and
the side.

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00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:28.760
Now we can see from the front,
it's pretty loose down here.

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00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:33.920
The back is very nice, it's very
snug.

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00:17:35.080 --> 00:17:40.399
But when we look at it from the
side, we can see that gap in the

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00:17:40.399 --> 00:17:45.390
front of the garment, which is
what I'm speaking about right

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00:17:45.390 --> 00:17:45.800
here.

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00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:52.776
So do we have a rib knit
tightening all the way around

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00:17:52.776 --> 00:17:53.880
the garment?

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00:17:54.280 --> 00:17:55.400
No, we don't.

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00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:04.962
This, again, is a very good
example of not going all the way

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00:18:04.962 --> 00:18:07.640
around the bottom of the
garment.

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00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:12.360
No guesswork there.

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00:18:15.760 --> 00:18:20.806
So here's a little close up
where we see the looseness in

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00:18:20.806 --> 00:18:25.765
the front and we see the
looseness in the front from the

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00:18:25.765 --> 00:18:26.200
side.

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00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:31.640
But the back is just perfect as
far as tight fitting.

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00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:37.120
Unfortunately it only goes from
side to the other backside.

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00:18:39.280 --> 00:18:45.079
There is no tightening all the
way around the bottom of this

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00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:45.840
garment.

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00:18:47.320 --> 00:18:50.120
This too is very clear.

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00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:58.020
So I'm showing you these samples
so as there is no second

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00:18:58.020 --> 00:19:02.640
guessing, there's no what ifs,
what abouts, None of that.

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00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:05.120
No guesswork involved.

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00:19:14.840 --> 00:19:16.560
OK this guy.

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00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:23.280
This is your typical cardigan
style garment.

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00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:26.440
It is loose fitting.

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00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:31.120
OK, the bottom is not tightened
at all.

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00:19:31.160 --> 00:19:38.474
However, we have something that
will throw it out of 61 O 6 and

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00:19:38.474 --> 00:19:40.760
straight in to 6110.

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00:19:41.600 --> 00:19:45.080
Can we all guess really quick
what that mean?

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00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:49.560
That's correct.

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00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:55.120
The pockets below the waist, not
just the pockets they have.

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00:19:55.120 --> 00:20:00.772
The pockets have to be below the
waist according to chapter 61

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00:20:00.772 --> 00:20:01.400
note 4.

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00:20:02.800 --> 00:20:07.963
So this would be an automatic
6110 regardless of the stitch

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00:20:07.963 --> 00:20:08.480
count.

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00:20:09.640 --> 00:20:15.682
It is loose fitting, but we have
a little problem and that is the

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00:20:15.682 --> 00:20:17.880
pockets below the waist.

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00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:32.408
OK, I, I just want to let you
know that the NCSD wearing

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00:20:32.408 --> 00:20:40.760
apparel group uses a royal form,
size 10, women's medium.

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00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:41.480
That's it.

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00:20:41.520 --> 00:20:42.720
That's what we use.

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00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:47.749
You know, sometimes we get
mediums that are oversized,

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00:20:47.749 --> 00:20:52.961
sometimes we get mediums that
are, you know, barely make it to

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00:20:52.961 --> 00:20:55.360
the waist all the way around.

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00:20:55.360 --> 00:21:02.652
So there are variations of a
size medium and we do take into

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00:21:02.652 --> 00:21:06.000
consideration some of those.

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00:21:06.840 --> 00:21:10.320
No, this would not be a 61 O one
or 61O2.

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00:21:11.560 --> 00:21:12.000
It would.

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00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:19.053
It does not provide enough
protection and I don't think the

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00:21:19.053 --> 00:21:21.640
fabric has the weight.

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00:21:24.560 --> 00:21:27.200
OK, sorry, got carried away.

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00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:32.689
OK, here's another one so-called
what we used to think is a

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00:21:32.689 --> 00:21:33.600
sweatshirt.

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00:21:34.520 --> 00:21:40.880
However, there is something
wrong with this rib knit band.

fd1a77dd-8c1c-47b1-a3d6-1d5f718c78ee-0
00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:51.320
The garment is loose fitting OK,
so we're still in 61 O 6.

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00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:53.440
It's loose fitting.

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00:21:53.440 --> 00:21:55.840
We can see there's no rib knit
tightening.

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00:21:56.840 --> 00:21:59.480
There's a gap here and a gap in
the back.

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00:22:00.320 --> 00:22:06.615
Side view shows the front and
the back gaps, and this is the

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00:22:06.615 --> 00:22:08.680
back of the garment.

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00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:13.880
This is not a rib knit
tightening.

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00:22:14.760 --> 00:22:19.105
Does the rib knit waistband at
the bottom go all the way around

b6eede95-da36-4931-8b9d-faa813fcfba4-1
00:22:19.105 --> 00:22:19.920
the garment?

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00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:21.880
No, it does not.

8fa6dbfb-a2f3-4127-94cd-5c2a17d19fae-0
00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:28.685
There are side slits, so if we
have a slit, that means it's

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00:22:28.685 --> 00:22:31.360
some sort of an opening.

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00:22:40.800 --> 00:22:45.200
Again, here are the slits and
here are the slits.

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00:22:55.710 --> 00:22:56.390
That's it.

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00:22:57.030 --> 00:22:59.430
Here is my contact information.

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00:23:18.840 --> 00:23:22.960
Oh, sorry, Renee, Questions.

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00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:26.120
Yes, OK, let me just get through
the references.

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00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:27.560
OK.

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00:23:27.560 --> 00:23:32.384
So the references that we used
in this webinar was the

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00:23:32.384 --> 00:23:37.560
Harmonized Tariff schedule
Section 11, Chapter 61, Note 4.

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00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:44.149
The informed compliance
terminology is still with

e2682617-b3d1-474c-80d8-ecfc06df23f0-1
00:23:44.149 --> 00:23:50.272
headquarters for their approval
and hopefully we should be

e2682617-b3d1-474c-80d8-ecfc06df23f0-2
00:23:50.272 --> 00:23:56.603
seeing that real soon, but I
don't know when, but it's going

e2682617-b3d1-474c-80d8-ecfc06df23f0-3
00:23:56.603 --> 00:24:02.000
to be soon and ruling
headquarters ruling H 334342.

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00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:15.514
And here is the credit
information and I'm ready for

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00:24:15.514 --> 00:24:17.280
questions.

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00:24:19.280 --> 00:24:23.557
OK, I think you answered the
first one, which is the new the

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00:24:23.557 --> 00:24:25.240
new apparel terminology.

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00:24:26.040 --> 00:24:29.906
The second question is if the
sample is for a kid focused

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00:24:29.906 --> 00:24:33.840
brand that does not include
adult sizes, what would be the

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00:24:33.840 --> 00:24:36.840
appropriate size for the sample
for rulings?

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00:24:37.520 --> 00:24:43.879
Well that would be another NIS
who is Catherine Sofront and you

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00:24:43.879 --> 00:24:46.960
may contact her for her sizing.

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00:24:48.040 --> 00:24:51.520
We only do women's or I only do
women's.

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OK thank you.

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The tight fitting rim did would
depend on the size of the

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00:24:59.155 --> 00:25:01.600
mannequin and the size of the
garment.

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00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:06.429
So if the mannequin has limited
human dimensions on waist, if

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00:25:06.429 --> 00:25:10.245
what if someone has a bare
belly, would it still be

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00:25:10.245 --> 00:25:12.080
considered tight fitting?

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Our mannequins I don't think
come with beer bellies.

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So a size medium would be put on
a size 10 form.

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That's it.

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A medium size 10 form.

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Thank you for sample #4
referencing back to that when

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00:25:37.229 --> 00:25:42.960
that sample be excluded from
6110 because of the zipper?

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00:25:46.280 --> 00:25:53.210
No, because it may or may not
have an opening beginning at the

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00:25:53.210 --> 00:25:53.760
neck.

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And referencing to slide 20, how
was that?

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Oh, sorry, that's OK.

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00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:13.581
Yes, how's that how's that a
pullover when it is a full front

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00:26:13.581 --> 00:26:14.400
opening?

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Well, 6110 provides for
pullovers, cardigan style

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00:26:22.715 --> 00:26:24.040
garments.

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So it's in that heading of 6110.

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We the pockets below the waist
knocked it out of 61 O 6.

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00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:38.600
So now we hop all the way to
6110.

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00:26:41.320 --> 00:26:42.600
OK, thank you.

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OK, for sample #5 I'm sorry, I'm
flipping.

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I, I very limited on my skills
here.

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00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:01.080
OK, the electronic ruling,
sample number 50.

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I'm sorry.

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00:27:02.080 --> 00:27:02.960
OK, hold on.

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00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:13.160
OK.

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00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:15.440
Yes, they would like to know the
stitch count.

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00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:21.520
The stitch count is that of a
blouse.

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00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:25.520
Thank you.

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00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:34.721
If we're classifying
specifically A plus size apparel

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00:27:34.721 --> 00:27:42.282
product, would we use a standard
size medium mannequin according

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00:27:42.282 --> 00:27:49.960
to CBP that well, OK, for me, we
would probably go with the extra

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00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:51.240
large form.

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OK, thank you.

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So on this sample, this pink
one, it would it be a sweatshirt

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even if it's nap on the inside?

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Yes, you would be we're out of
61 O 6 and now we're because Oh

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00:28:15.278 --> 00:28:18.680
no, I'm sorry, we're still in 61
O 6.

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It's loose fitting, OK, There's
no tightening at the bottom and

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00:28:26.262 --> 00:28:29.720
the stitch count is that of a
blouse.

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00:28:32.520 --> 00:28:36.200
So even if a snap on the inside
will still be a 61 O six.

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00:28:36.520 --> 00:28:41.480
Yes, there's nothing to throw it
out of 61 O 6.

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It's loose fitting there.

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00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:50.379
The garment has no pockets and
it does not have a tight fitting

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00:28:50.379 --> 00:28:50.920
bottom.

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00:28:51.760 --> 00:28:55.840
So what would throw it out of 61
O 6?

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00:28:58.080 --> 00:28:58.560
Nothing.

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00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:00.520
Thank you.

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Can you please explain fashion
versus warmth and protection

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00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:07.920
against the element?

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00:29:09.040 --> 00:29:10.320
Oh, OK.

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So fashion is a style.

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Warmth would be the weight of
the fabric, the way that the

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00:29:22.447 --> 00:29:25.400
garment fits on the mannequin.

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00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:28.320
Like, is it going to protect you
from the elements?

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00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:34.436
But who can explain that much
better would be Deanna Bolt who

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00:29:34.436 --> 00:29:38.720
does outerwear and her specialty
is warmth.

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OK thank you.

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Regarding 61 O 6 qualifying,
would a pencil test in all three

cc583333-6c38-4d4c-b0b5-f50b8f8d3f79-1
00:29:53.345 --> 00:29:58.960
positions be a good gauge for
adequate tightening?

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00:30:00.520 --> 00:30:01.840
I don't use a pencil.

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I use the mannequin.

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00:30:04.320 --> 00:30:08.920
The mannequin for us is our best
friend, OK?

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00:30:10.840 --> 00:30:18.046
Everywhere we go, every sample
we receive, that mannequin gets

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00:30:18.046 --> 00:30:25.368
first shot, it gets put on the
mannequin and the fitting has to

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00:30:25.368 --> 00:30:28.800
be that of the size 10 medium.

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00:30:32.840 --> 00:30:35.320
Thank you again.

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Back to this pink sample, can
you please explain again if it

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00:30:42.356 --> 00:30:48.240
has 10 stitches per 2cm will go
to 61 O 6 or 6110.

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OK, so I'm going to let you guys
answer this.

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What is the stitch count for a
garment of 61 O 6?

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00:31:02.040 --> 00:31:07.292
If it's not that stitch count,
then it doesn't qualify as a 61

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00:31:07.292 --> 00:31:12.045
O 6, so it's automatically
thrown out because it doesn't

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00:31:12.045 --> 00:31:13.880
have the stitch count.

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The next heading that we could
see if it fits into would be

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6110 and the only stitch count
in 6110 is that of a sweater,

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00:31:30.226 --> 00:31:34.240
which is 9 centimeters per two.

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00:31:35.840 --> 00:31:39.040
I'm I'm sorry, it's 9 stitches
per 2cm.

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00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:44.400
So we land in 6110 all the way
at the bottom.

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00:31:44.840 --> 00:31:45.960
Other other other.

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00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:46.440
Why?

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00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:52.133
Because there is no stitch count
for other than a sweater in

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00:31:52.133 --> 00:31:52.600
6110.

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00:31:53.080 --> 00:31:54.160
Is that clear?

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00:31:55.920 --> 00:32:01.412
In order for you to be in 61 O
6, you have to have the stitch

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00:32:01.412 --> 00:32:06.640
count, the loose fitting, and no
tightening at the bottom.

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00:32:07.600 --> 00:32:10.200
It's all right there in the
note.

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00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:15.444
If you just read the note and
don't second guess the note,

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00:32:15.444 --> 00:32:17.480
you're going to be fine.

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00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:26.000
Thank you.

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00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:32.529
I guess someone is making a
statement is per the ICP on

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00:32:32.529 --> 00:32:38.164
apparel terminology, Sweatshirts
with a full front opening or

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00:32:38.164 --> 00:32:43.254
classifieds jackets if they
qualify as a jacket if they

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00:32:43.254 --> 00:32:43.800
don't.

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00:32:45.080 --> 00:32:49.905
If the NIS for jackets and
outerwear says this does not

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00:32:49.905 --> 00:32:55.333
meet the requirement, then it's
kicked out of 61 O one or 61O2

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00:32:55.333 --> 00:33:00.762
and then we're going to head to
the next heading that we could

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00:33:00.762 --> 00:33:04.640
probably fit it in and that
would be 61 O 6.

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00:33:04.840 --> 00:33:09.156
So we look at the chapter note
and the garment and we say, does

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00:33:09.156 --> 00:33:11.720
it have the stitch count of a
blouse?

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00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:14.520
Is this loose fitting?

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00:33:15.520 --> 00:33:20.491
Is there a rib knit tightening
at the bottom or other means of

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00:33:20.491 --> 00:33:21.360
tightening?

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00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:27.120
If you don't have those three
things, you don't have a blouse.

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00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:32.560
So now you need to get out and
run down to 6110.

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00:33:35.600 --> 00:33:42.536
And if you look at the chapter
note for 6110 in statistical

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00:33:42.536 --> 00:33:49.703
Note 3, you're going to see that
only a sweatshirt require, I

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00:33:49.703 --> 00:33:55.714
mean, a sweater requires a
stitch count, which is 9

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00:33:55.714 --> 00:33:57.680
stitches per 2cm.

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00:34:03.430 --> 00:34:16.900
Is that clear to that question
was asked by Charlene.

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00:34:18.340 --> 00:34:21.940
OK, Charlene Miller.

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00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:23.000
No.

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00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:24.320
Oh, another Charlene.

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00:34:24.560 --> 00:34:30.680
OK, Well, if she so I'm hoping
she's clear on her on my answer.

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00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:38.704
You, you know, the The thing is,
folks, is that this is not a

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00:34:38.704 --> 00:34:41.400
difficult chapter note.

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00:34:41.680 --> 00:34:45.320
It's really not when you look at
what is required.

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00:34:45.600 --> 00:34:50.630
If you don't have those
requirements, then you're out of

5605dff8-7fe2-4f5e-8100-10ffd22edeb6-1
00:34:50.630 --> 00:34:51.160
there.

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00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:56.524
You could, it could be a loose
fitting garment, OK, but it

76611e58-a112-4bf0-8a1d-b7e9858e6834-1
00:34:56.524 --> 00:35:00.520
doesn't have the stitch count,
so you're out.

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00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:03.160
You have to have the
requirements.

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00:35:13.210 --> 00:35:18.637
OK, Do all samples presented
today have the stitch count of a

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00:35:18.637 --> 00:35:19.250
blouse?

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00:35:20.450 --> 00:35:21.810
No, not at all.

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00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:25.800
Most of them do, but not all.

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00:35:26.200 --> 00:35:31.757
So the NIS, who handles blouses,
which is who is Tony Peek

88f16751-b72f-4150-89fc-f31b84590fb6-1
00:35:31.757 --> 00:35:37.409
Williams, she gets to do all
this ditch counting and I just

88f16751-b72f-4150-89fc-f31b84590fb6-2
00:35:37.409 --> 00:35:43.060
pretty much verify her stitch
counting so that we're on the

88f16751-b72f-4150-89fc-f31b84590fb6-3
00:35:43.060 --> 00:35:48.712
same page and we're in the right
heading for classification

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00:35:48.712 --> 00:35:49.560
purposes.

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00:35:52.120 --> 00:35:52.560
Thank you.

5961255c-c106-444b-a788-abda77f038bd-0
00:35:53.480 --> 00:36:01.411
What throws item out of 6161 O 6
into 6110 again you read the

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00:36:01.411 --> 00:36:08.960
note for if you have the stitch
count, you're in a blouse.

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00:36:09.720 --> 00:36:15.480
If it's loose fitting, you're in
a blouse.

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00:36:15.520 --> 00:36:16.040
That's it.

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00:36:16.040 --> 00:36:18.280
That's that's your in a blouse.

9a4de797-c98d-40d7-9b30-a281311b9571-0
00:36:18.720 --> 00:36:23.215
If you don't have the stitch
count, you're not in a blouse,

9a4de797-c98d-40d7-9b30-a281311b9571-1
00:36:23.215 --> 00:36:24.040
you're out.

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00:36:29.790 --> 00:36:35.838
You know, I mean, like I said,
in to be in 61 O 6, you have to

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00:36:35.838 --> 00:36:37.950
have the stitch count.

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00:36:38.710 --> 00:36:39.790
OK, That's a must.

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00:36:39.790 --> 00:36:41.430
That is a requirement.

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00:36:41.950 --> 00:36:47.141
If you don't have that
requirement, how can you stay in

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00:36:47.141 --> 00:36:47.790
61 O 6?

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00:36:48.110 --> 00:36:52.440
You can't, you don't meet that
requirement.

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00:36:57.160 --> 00:37:04.488
If you read the note and don't
say, well, what if, what about,

f2a4ab38-e8c7-49b1-b669-58dcb781a286-1
00:37:04.488 --> 00:37:07.280
you know, don't do that.

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00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:10.120
Just read it for what it is.

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00:37:19.570 --> 00:37:26.280
OK, Thank you for sample #4 I
believe this one.

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00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:27.040
Slide back.

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00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:31.520
OK, here we go.

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00:37:32.120 --> 00:37:32.640
Thank you.

f587f31c-f4ce-4ac2-bf14-f8c7b32d1e8e-0
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:37.640
Please explain again why this
full zip knit garment is not a

f587f31c-f4ce-4ac2-bf14-f8c7b32d1e8e-1
00:37:37.640 --> 00:37:38.200
jacket.

fa7fb845-065e-4a19-a3d8-299ffc78d5c7-0
00:37:38.680 --> 00:37:43.760
Apparel terminology has 10
elements to be a shirt jacket.

6d4d3d8f-8f9f-47de-908c-42443cf1a66a-0
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:48.152
The garment has pockets at or
below the waist, full opening

6d4d3d8f-8f9f-47de-908c-42443cf1a66a-1
00:37:48.152 --> 00:37:52.537
tightening elements at cough
definitely has three or more to

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00:37:52.537 --> 00:37:53.400
be a jacket.

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00:37:55.360 --> 00:38:03.372
OK, so I'm going to say because
I, you know, this did go to

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00:38:03.372 --> 00:38:11.920
outerwear and I'm going to say
that one, it's not heavy enough.

1d7a48e6-f14a-4d8c-acfe-56cbb17fea35-0
00:38:12.560 --> 00:38:17.612
The fabric is not heavy enough,
but I can look it up and get

1d7a48e6-f14a-4d8c-acfe-56cbb17fea35-1
00:38:17.612 --> 00:38:22.582
back to you and let you know
exactly why this did not go to

1d7a48e6-f14a-4d8c-acfe-56cbb17fea35-2
00:38:22.582 --> 00:38:23.080
61 O2.

ab097ed0-9117-433f-ab57-c07cf451afa8-0
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:31.940
If you would like that, just
e-mail me because for us, in

ab097ed0-9117-433f-ab57-c07cf451afa8-1
00:38:31.940 --> 00:38:38.465
wearing apparel, especially
Deanna, me and Tony Peek

ab097ed0-9117-433f-ab57-c07cf451afa8-2
00:38:38.465 --> 00:38:43.760
Williams, we see just about
every garment.

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00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:44.760
The three of us.

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00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:46.360
It starts with Deanna.

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00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:50.560
And if it's not Deanna who does
outerwear, Deanna bolt.

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00:38:51.240 --> 00:38:56.927
Then Deanna passes it over to
Tony, Tony Peek Williams, who

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00:38:56.927 --> 00:38:58.160
does blouses.

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00:38:58.720 --> 00:39:07.447
And if it's not hers, then I am
the lucky winner because 6110

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00:39:07.447 --> 00:39:15.612
really does not have any
specific requirements other than

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00:39:15.612 --> 00:39:24.481
it must reach the waist all the
way around and have sufficient

4d8414e8-b58f-4d87-b820-1f735ddcd09c-3
00:39:24.481 --> 00:39:31.520
coverage in the front and the
back and the sides.

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00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:44.880
Thank you.

e155f873-dc9b-4c0a-960d-42d488b80335-0
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:50.755
Next question, why does the
government have to fail to

e155f873-dc9b-4c0a-960d-42d488b80335-1
00:39:50.755 --> 00:39:54.600
qualify for 61 O 6 in order to
be classified in 6110?

9a5a080c-0e8a-43f7-9b2a-6e6d284e9b5a-0
00:39:55.760 --> 00:40:00.760
OK, so it's just like
classifying down the Terra.

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00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:05.640
We start out at the beginning,
which is 61 O2 for women's.

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00:40:06.560 --> 00:40:11.880
And if it doesn't make 61O2,
then we hop to 61 O four.

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00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:17.480
And if it doesn't make 61 O 4,
then we go to 61 O 6.

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00:40:18.080 --> 00:40:23.682
And if you do not have the
requirements for a 61 O 6, then

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00:40:23.682 --> 00:40:29.000
we need to get out of there and
get to the next tariff.

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00:40:30.560 --> 00:40:35.368
If you meet all of the
qualifications for a 61 O 6

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00:40:35.368 --> 00:40:37.160
garment, that's it.

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00:40:37.240 --> 00:40:44.859
You're stuck in 61 O 6 no matter
how bad you want a cotton 6110,

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00:40:44.859 --> 00:40:49.080
which is the lower duty for
cotton.

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00:40:57.060 --> 00:40:57.580
Thank you.

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00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:03.931
If we have a garment both misses
and plus size, could there be a

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00:41:03.931 --> 00:41:08.297
situation where based on the
difference in the mannequin use

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00:41:08.297 --> 00:41:12.376
that the garment could be
included or excluded from 61 O

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00:41:12.376 --> 00:41:12.520
6?

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00:41:13.240 --> 00:41:15.240
We would have to see that
garment.

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00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:20.520
Remember at the very beginning I
said we don't.

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00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:27.160
We don't deal in what ifs, could
be, would be, should be.

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00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:31.920
We only deal in the garment that
is before us.

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00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:41.440
There's no guessing when we
classify at the NCSD.

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00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:47.080
Thank you.

f467113a-7dcf-44f9-91bb-73416c2db097-0
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:52.420
Can you explain again for plus
size, what size sample and

f467113a-7dcf-44f9-91bb-73416c2db097-1
00:41:52.420 --> 00:41:53.960
mannequin form to use?

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00:41:56.280 --> 00:42:01.760
Well, it you know, a plus size
garment, we do have a larger

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00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:07.149
size mannequin and we would
depending on the dimensions or

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00:42:07.149 --> 00:42:12.903
the measurements, we'll put it
on the medium and see what that

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00:42:12.903 --> 00:42:13.360
does.

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00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:17.600
If not, we'll move it to a
larger mannequin.

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00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:19.560
That's what I would do.

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00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.080
As you know, a 359 person.

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00:42:24.120 --> 00:42:28.530
I can't speak for all the other
NI s s, but I'm pretty sure we

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00:42:28.530 --> 00:42:30.280
are all on the same page.

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00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:34.000
Thank you.

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00:42:36.160 --> 00:42:39.080
Doesn't 61 O 6 require partial
opening?

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00:42:40.600 --> 00:42:44.680
No, let's go back and read the
note.

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00:42:50.530 --> 00:42:52.810
Let's go back and read the note.

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00:42:52.810 --> 00:42:54.050
Let me get to it.

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00:42:55.240 --> 00:43:00.028
That's what this is what I'm I'm
saying read the note, read it

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00:43:00.028 --> 00:43:02.840
and and just read it for what it
is.

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00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:10.691
It says here for a shirt blouse
for shirts, and shirt blouses

9aed3548-f291-4201-a7b6-4d6f64460f01-1
00:43:10.691 --> 00:43:17.288
are garments designed to cover
the upper part of the body,

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00:43:17.288 --> 00:43:23.884
having long or short sleeves and
a full or partial opening

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00:43:23.884 --> 00:43:26.680
starting at the neckline.

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00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:29.880
We're talking about shirt
blouses.

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00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:36.794
Blouses are loose fitting
garments also designed to cover

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00:43:36.794 --> 00:43:43.630
the upper part of the body, but
may be sleeveless and with or

84bd2ec3-63c6-422a-b97c-dbdff35b3a50-2
00:43:43.630 --> 00:43:47.600
without an opening at the
neckline.

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00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:53.840
So everything you need to know
is right here in the note.

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00:43:55.880 --> 00:44:00.913
Of course, we love binding
rulings, but it's all right here

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00:44:00.913 --> 00:44:01.920
in the note.

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00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:08.219
You know, I just want to
emphasize something that when

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00:44:08.219 --> 00:44:14.427
this came down in 20/22, it was
not easy for us to accept this

f005d724-a071-43eb-be77-7e5f692231b2-2
00:44:14.427 --> 00:44:14.920
note.

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00:44:16.040 --> 00:44:17.840
It just wasn't.

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00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:23.175
We were all in an uproar, you
know, probably like you, the

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00:44:23.175 --> 00:44:25.240
field and or the trade.

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00:44:26.240 --> 00:44:34.010
But the more we dealt with this,
it was just all about reading

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00:44:34.010 --> 00:44:35.120
the note.

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00:44:35.560 --> 00:44:37.080
It's all there for us.

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00:44:41.640 --> 00:44:44.200
And when we get a garment, we go
through it.

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00:44:44.720 --> 00:44:46.880
Does this have the stitch count?

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00:44:51.640 --> 00:44:54.760
Does this have loose fitting?

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00:44:55.520 --> 00:45:01.159
We're not worried about an
opening beginning at the

51dd43c9-4d40-4bef-b94e-1d236b1421a5-1
00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:06.040
neckline when we're in 61 O 6
blouse, right?

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00:45:09.600 --> 00:45:12.939
It's tells us don't worry about
if it has an opening at the

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00:45:12.939 --> 00:45:13.440
neckline.

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00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:17.560
So we won't, we won't worry
about that.

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00:45:17.560 --> 00:45:19.040
We won't even think about it.

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00:45:27.080 --> 00:45:27.640
Thank you.

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00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:35.291
Can you advise when something
will move out of 61 O 6 to a

9773632c-c352-450c-95fb-8575eec78c60-1
00:45:35.291 --> 00:45:39.480
T-shirt slash tank top 60
heading 61 O nine?

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00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:43.320
OK, well, let's let's let's just
go through the note again.

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00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:49.160
If it has this ditch count,
you're still in 61 O 6.

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00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:49.880
OK.

75899e83-22d4-4e53-9ead-edc1f2dab91d-0
00:45:51.720 --> 00:45:56.880
If it does not have the stitch
count, then you go to 6109.

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00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:05.880
And if it has OK, wait, let me
see.

b89a8ff8-a77c-4077-b7db-76b9bb47498a-0
00:46:06.600 --> 00:46:13.525
All right, if it has the
features of a 6109, well, then

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00:46:13.525 --> 00:46:17.360
it would probably stay in 6109.

622e5a4a-7fe3-4b3b-be23-e34d5c0b7bad-0
00:46:17.680 --> 00:46:23.734
If it doesn't have the features
of a 6109, you're out and you're

622e5a4a-7fe3-4b3b-be23-e34d5c0b7bad-1
00:46:23.734 --> 00:46:24.480
in 6110.

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00:46:31.190 --> 00:46:33.070
I love all these questions.

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00:46:34.670 --> 00:46:40.006
I like them everyone because it
just shows that the note has

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00:46:40.006 --> 00:46:44.030
everything you want to know
without guessing.

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00:46:54.240 --> 00:46:54.840
Thank you.

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00:46:56.280 --> 00:47:01.071
What size mannequin is used for
your review of men's upper body

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00:47:01.071 --> 00:47:02.120
Nick garments?

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00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:07.520
That is not my, that's not me.

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00:47:07.560 --> 00:47:13.600
That would be Mary Alice Nowak
who handles men's garments.

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00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:18.897
I don't know what her mannequins
look like or the sizing because

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00:47:18.897 --> 00:47:20.320
I do not do men's.

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00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:25.079
So you could probably e-mail
Mary Alice and she could give

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00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:26.360
you that information.

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00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:33.840
Thank you this is a long
question.

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00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:39.454
Fashion now has women's T-shirt
that are loose fitting and even

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00:47:39.454 --> 00:47:44.310
flare but looking at it at a
person automatically would call

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00:47:44.310 --> 00:47:46.540
it or consider it a T-shirt.

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00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:53.357
61 O 6 does not allow T-shirt,
but with 61 O 6 many of these

f800ac94-2559-41bc-9179-285862e74d3e-1
00:47:53.357 --> 00:47:59.427
so-called fashionable Tees would
qualify being classified as a

f800ac94-2559-41bc-9179-285862e74d3e-2
00:47:59.427 --> 00:48:02.800
blouse in 61 O 6, Is that
correct?

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00:48:03.080 --> 00:48:09.559
You're right, if it has this
ditch count it doesn't matter

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00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:15.600
what the garment is, we have to
go through the tariff.

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00:48:16.640 --> 00:48:20.000
OK, so it's not going to be
Deanna's.

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00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:21.040
We already know that.

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00:48:21.040 --> 00:48:26.026
So now we're going to go to 61,
hop all the way down to 61 O 6

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00:48:26.026 --> 00:48:30.221
and we're going to ask
ourselves, does this help the

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00:48:30.221 --> 00:48:32.200
stitch count of a blouse?

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00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:33.640
Why?

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00:48:33.640 --> 00:48:34.920
It sure does.

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00:48:35.200 --> 00:48:36.880
Is it loose fitting?

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00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:40.920
Good gravy, it is loose fitting.

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00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:42.560
Then this is where I belong.

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00:48:43.200 --> 00:48:45.680
I belong in 61 O 6.

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00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:51.480
What's going to kick you out of
61 O 6?

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00:48:53.160 --> 00:48:59.227
Nothing, unless you have a tight
fitting rib knit bottom or other

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00:48:59.227 --> 00:49:03.640
means of tightening or pockets
below the waist.

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00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:16.425
So 61 O 9 is still alive and
kicking, but I will agree that

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00:49:16.425 --> 00:49:23.280
most garments we see now are a
61 O 6.

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00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:31.880
I hope that helps, thank you.

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00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:38.438
Does ICP or NCSD still recognize
that unisex apparel are to be

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00:49:38.438 --> 00:49:40.240
classified as women's?

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00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:41.040
Yes we do.

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00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:49.967
There has been no change to that
as as I know, and I would know

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00:49:49.967 --> 00:49:54.890
because if it is a unisex
garment it would come to me to

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00:49:54.890 --> 00:49:58.000
be classified because I do
women's.

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00:50:00.080 --> 00:50:02.440
That includes dresses.

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00:50:04.160 --> 00:50:09.831
Skirts would be another NIS,
which would be Tony Peake

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00:50:09.831 --> 00:50:10.760
Williams.

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00:50:12.080 --> 00:50:16.760
So yes, it still moves to the
women's classification tariffs.

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00:50:19.640 --> 00:50:20.240
Thank you.

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00:50:22.160 --> 00:50:26.349
How long do you think it will be
before we see the same

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00:50:26.349 --> 00:50:27.920
transition in 61 O 5?

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00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:29.280
I have no idea.

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00:50:31.520 --> 00:50:32.440
I'm so sorry.

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00:50:34.600 --> 00:50:34.920
OK.

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00:50:35.040 --> 00:50:38.883
Another question, snug fitting
can be subjective especially

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00:50:38.883 --> 00:50:42.983
since not all medium mannequin
have the same measurement at the

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00:50:42.983 --> 00:50:43.880
waist and hip.

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00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:47.400
I believe that is a statement.

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00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:50.200
OK, OK.

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00:50:50.680 --> 00:51:00.037
So we use as well as
headquarters, we use the same

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00:51:00.037 --> 00:51:07.560
size 10 medium form if it fits
our form.

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00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:13.681
And you know answers are
questions that we have for the

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00:51:13.681 --> 00:51:18.080
considered classification,
that's what we use.

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00:51:18.080 --> 00:51:23.760
So the NCSD and headquarters,
we're all in agreement.

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00:51:28.120 --> 00:51:29.520
That's what we use.

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00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:38.958
And I know because this has been
a topic that there are different

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00:51:38.958 --> 00:51:46.550
size medium mannequins, but we
use the same mannequin for

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00:51:46.550 --> 00:51:53.618
classification purposes, whether
it's the NCSD or its

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00:51:53.618 --> 00:51:55.320
headquarters.

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00:52:01.600 --> 00:52:02.880
OK, thank you.

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00:52:03.200 --> 00:52:06.879
In order to in order to
determine that an earlier

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00:52:06.879 --> 00:52:11.515
heading prevails over a later
heading, CBP must be determining

fe81a9e3-4c49-4e8f-be4e-e87aac6bea52-2
00:52:11.515 --> 00:52:15.857
that the earlier headings are
more specific than the later

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00:52:15.857 --> 00:52:16.520
headings.

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00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:21.768
How is the blouse of 61 O six
more specific than T than

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00:52:21.768 --> 00:52:23.400
sweatshirt of 6110?

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00:52:26.640 --> 00:52:32.400
OK, So we have to go through the
tariff right?

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00:52:32.640 --> 00:52:38.560
When we get to 61 O 6, we have
set guidelines there.

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00:52:38.560 --> 00:52:40.040
It's in the chapter note.

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00:52:41.040 --> 00:52:47.730
So we have to follow those
guidelines or those requirements

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00:52:47.730 --> 00:52:49.960
in the chapter note.

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00:52:51.040 --> 00:52:56.929
If we can't satisfy the answers
to the requirements in the

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00:52:56.929 --> 00:53:01.920
chapter note, that's goes on to
the next heading.

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00:53:02.720 --> 00:53:08.430
And you're right, the further
down you go in wearing apparel,

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00:53:08.430 --> 00:53:14.326
like once you get to 61 O 10, we
have very little requirements,

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00:53:14.326 --> 00:53:15.800
not like 61 O 6.

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00:53:16.040 --> 00:53:21.957
So most things used to fall in a
6110 and on occasion I would get

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00:53:21.957 --> 00:53:27.337
something where maybe it didn't
reach the waist all the way

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00:53:27.337 --> 00:53:29.400
around on my mannequin.

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00:53:30.200 --> 00:53:37.420
Then it's out of 6110 and it
hops to 6114, which really

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00:53:37.420 --> 00:53:42.320
doesn't have hardly any
requirements.

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00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:44.560
That's the other garments.

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00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:52.685
So if it's not qualifying in
61O2 through 6110, then we wind

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00:53:52.685 --> 00:53:53.920
up in 6114.

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00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:57.600
I hope that makes sense.

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00:53:59.040 --> 00:53:59.520
Thank you.

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00:53:59.880 --> 00:54:02.360
I think that's all the question
we can take right now.

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00:54:02.720 --> 00:54:03.200
OK.

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00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:07.649
So if there's any other
questions, please, please feel

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00:54:07.649 --> 00:54:09.040
free to e-mail me.

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00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:13.360
We're a very user friendly
group.

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00:54:15.040 --> 00:54:19.549
Renee, can you move forward to
the to your contact information

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00:54:19.549 --> 00:54:20.480
slide please?

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00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:33.520
Oh, here it is, slide 23 for
about the next slide as well.

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00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:38.240
The last slide, the last slide.

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00:54:38.640 --> 00:54:39.680
OK, there we go.

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00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:46.440
Good afternoon everyone.

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00:54:46.520 --> 00:54:48.840
This concludes our webinar for
this afternoon.

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00:54:49.120 --> 00:54:52.344
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00:54:52.344 --> 00:54:53.000
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