WEBVTT 00:00:56.810 --> 00:00:58.258 LAZARO, VIKKI Good morning, everybody. 00:00:58.258 --> 00:00:59.567 Can you hear me now? 00:00:59.567 --> 00:01:04.167 LAZARO, VIKKI I'm having a little bit of a sticky finger here. 00:01:11.767 --> 00:01:14.133 LAZARO, VIKKI Hey everybody, I'm here. 00:06:22.209 --> 00:06:23.689 LAZARO, VIKKI So again, so I said. 00:06:23.689 --> 00:06:26.467 LAZARO, VIKKI You know, articles in the first half 00:06:26.467 --> 00:06:28.233 of the heading are limited by material. 00:06:29.107 --> 00:06:30.880 LAZARO, VIKKI Articles in the first half 00:06:30.880 --> 00:06:33.367 of the heading are not limited by material. 00:06:34.025 --> 00:06:36.967 However, plating material is a little tricky. 00:06:38.500 --> 00:06:40.129 LAZARO, VIKKI Uh, because where does this go? 00:06:40.129 --> 00:06:43.233 So sounds like plating material will be OK in the first half 00:06:43.233 --> 00:06:45.500 of the heading where the trunks and the suitcases are. 00:06:45.500 --> 00:06:48.833 However, you know, cause it's in the before the semi colon. 00:06:50.420 --> 00:06:52.633 LAZARO, VIKKI But before we get to the heading level, 00:06:52.633 --> 00:06:56.900 when you're classifying something, you always look at the chapter notes first. 00:06:56.900 --> 00:07:00.567 First, first chapter notes, then headings. 00:07:00.567 --> 00:07:03.433 There's a particular order to things, and you see 00:07:03.433 --> 00:07:04.900 at the bottom I've highlighted something. 00:07:05.551 --> 00:07:09.367 LAZARO, VIKKI Touch specific chapter note in had in Chapter 4202, 00:07:09.367 --> 00:07:10.967 so I'm going to highlight that a little better here 00:07:10.967 --> 00:07:15.700 and it's saying Chapter Note 3 gives us in addition to the provisions 00:07:15.700 --> 00:07:21.633 of Note 2, heading 4202 does not cover articles of plating material, 00:07:21.633 --> 00:07:25.100 so this sort of this chapter note Trump's. 00:07:25.100 --> 00:07:29.300 LAZARO, VIKKI What we see in at the heading level chapter notes 00:07:29.300 --> 00:07:30.900 first heading level second. 00:07:30.900 --> 00:07:35.500 So it's saying at the chapter level that plating material is excluded 00:07:35.500 --> 00:07:39.633 from heading 4202, so plating material is an exception. 00:07:39.633 --> 00:07:42.700 It's not permitted in the first half of the heading and it's not permitted 00:07:42.700 --> 00:07:44.033 in the second half of the heading. 00:07:44.033 --> 00:07:47.567 And again, if you do have an article that you think is plating material 00:07:47.567 --> 00:07:50.633 and you're not sure Charlene Miller would be the person 00:07:50.633 --> 00:07:55.833 to explain the rules on whether or not it's plating material for the purposes 00:07:55.833 --> 00:07:57.700 of 4202, I just want to be clear. 00:07:57.700 --> 00:08:01.866 LAZARO, VIKKI That articles of plating material are not in 4202. 00:08:03.433 --> 00:08:05.333 LAZARO, VIKKI Again, they're not permitted in either section. 00:08:05.333 --> 00:08:08.167 First half, second half, because we have this chapter note, 00:08:08.167 --> 00:08:12.167 which is more important than is is is more is primary to what it says 00:08:12.167 --> 00:08:13.567 in the heading. 00:08:15.866 --> 00:08:18.167 LAZARO, VIKKI Another question we get or another thing 00:08:18.167 --> 00:08:20.433 that's confusing to people sometimes is, is it true 00:08:20.433 --> 00:08:22.033 that all plastic is the same? 00:08:22.033 --> 00:08:24.233 Well, it depends on your point of view. 00:08:24.233 --> 00:08:27.433 LAZARO, VIKKI For the point of view of heading 42 or two, 00:08:27.433 --> 00:08:30.767 we have molded plastic and we have plastic sheeting 00:08:30.767 --> 00:08:35.700 and the names sort of suggests pretty clearly the difference. 00:08:35.700 --> 00:08:39.767 Molded plastic is when plastic is molded to shape the article. 00:08:39.767 --> 00:08:41.900 The finished article is molded to shape. 00:08:41.900 --> 00:08:48.833 So imagine molten hot lava like plastic being poured in a liquid form 00:08:48.833 --> 00:08:52.367 into a mold similar to the one on the eat. 00:08:52.367 --> 00:08:57.233 LAZARO, VIKKI Of the left side and then drying and solidifying 00:08:57.233 --> 00:09:01.433 and becoming the shape from that molten hot plastic material 00:09:01.433 --> 00:09:03.500 that would be molded to shape. 00:09:03.500 --> 00:09:04.933 LAZARO, VIKKI As the name would suggest, 00:09:04.933 --> 00:09:08.880 and then we have plastic sheeting again as the name would suggest, 00:09:08.880 --> 00:09:12.830 it's plastic and sheet form and for the purposes of 42 or two, 00:09:12.830 --> 00:09:15.150 it doesn't really matter how it became a sheet. 00:09:15.150 --> 00:09:18.070 You know it could be a you know like on this picture on the right 00:09:18.070 --> 00:09:20.260 that you see it's in roles. 00:09:20.260 --> 00:09:24.006 So you could take that role, apply it to something you could cut 00:09:24.006 --> 00:09:26.233 the plastic sheeting. 00:09:26.233 --> 00:09:28.833 LAZARO, VIKKI You, uh, you know, bind it together to make 00:09:28.833 --> 00:09:30.000 to make the product. 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:32.233 It's still of plastic sheeting. 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:19.095 LAZARO, VIKKI Like in the construction, it's out. 00:11:19.096 --> 00:11:22.725 We're looking to see now, OK, it's multiple plastic is this is the base 00:11:22.725 --> 00:11:25.477 with a cover of the material that's permitted. 00:11:25.477 --> 00:11:28.593 So that would be the first scenario where molded plastic is permitted. 00:11:29.878 --> 00:11:33.830 LAZARO, VIKKI And then, of course, the second is, is it one of the articles 00:11:33.831 --> 00:11:35.710 in the first half of the heading, is it a trunk? 00:11:35.710 --> 00:11:39.480 Is it a binocular case or is it similar to if it's, if it falls 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:43.330 in the first half of the heading there isn't that same limit on the materials? 00:11:43.330 --> 00:11:46.840 Multiple plastic would be permitted in the first half of the heading. 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:48.980 So there's those two scenarios where. 00:11:50.140 --> 00:11:52.870 LAZARO, VIKKI It can be included at molded plastic. 00:11:56.633 --> 00:11:58.850 LAZARO, VIKKI So then another thing that causes a lot 00:11:58.850 --> 00:12:01.970 of confusion is nonwoven polypropylene. 00:12:01.970 --> 00:12:05.210 LAZARO, VIKKI Umm, you know, is it a plastic? 00:12:05.210 --> 00:12:07.400 Because you know the word polypropylene. 00:12:07.400 --> 00:12:10.390 It sounds like it's plastic, you know, so a lot of times people are confused. 00:12:10.390 --> 00:12:15.620 They see this word, polypropylene and they assume, oh, it must be plastic. 00:12:15.620 --> 00:12:18.160 LAZARO, VIKKI Or and it it looks like cheating. 00:12:18.160 --> 00:12:19.120 You know it's it's. 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:20.070 It's like you see in this photo. 00:12:20.070 --> 00:12:21.230 It's in sheet form. 00:12:21.230 --> 00:12:22.430 So is this plastic sheeting? 00:12:28.767 --> 00:12:29.340 LAZARO, VIKKI Is it? 00:12:29.340 --> 00:12:29.670 Is it? 00:12:29.670 --> 00:12:30.790 So let's see. 00:12:30.790 --> 00:12:32.530 No, it's not Putnam. 00:12:32.530 --> 00:12:33.340 Polypropylene. 00:12:33.340 --> 00:12:34.180 Nonwoven. 00:12:34.180 --> 00:12:38.230 Polypropylene is a man made textile material. 00:12:38.230 --> 00:12:41.650 So again, it's still permitted in the second half of the heading 00:12:41.650 --> 00:12:45.960 because it's a textile material man made, that's certainly allowable. 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:48.990 But you do at the subheading level, you do have to make that distinction 00:12:48.990 --> 00:12:52.910 between polypropylene and man-made textile because at the subheading level, 00:12:52.910 --> 00:12:54.550 they're going to be classified differently. 00:12:56.500 --> 00:13:00.300 LAZARO, VIKKI So, cannonvale polypropylene ever be classified 00:13:00.300 --> 00:13:01.720 as plastic sheeting? 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:02.090 Tricky. 00:13:02.090 --> 00:13:04.610 It's a little little. 00:13:04.610 --> 00:13:05.720 Well, I gave you the answer. 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:06.390 Yes, it can. 00:13:06.390 --> 00:13:08.417 LAZARO, VIKKI Sorry about that. 00:13:08.432 --> 00:13:10.210 The little my mouse is a little touchy today. 00:13:14.433 --> 00:13:15.840 LAZARO, VIKKI Yes, it can be. 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:16.380 It can. 00:13:16.380 --> 00:13:21.070 So can nonvalue nonwoven polypropylene ever be classified as plastic sheeting? 00:13:21.070 --> 00:13:22.667 Yes. 00:13:22.667 --> 00:13:26.710 LAZARO, VIKKI So you see here we have at a sub at the subheading level 00:13:26.710 --> 00:13:29.430 with outer surface of plastic sheeting or of textile materials. 00:13:29.430 --> 00:13:30.510 So there is a distinction. 00:13:30.510 --> 00:13:31.410 Keep that in mind. 00:13:32.744 --> 00:13:36.263 LAZARO, VIKKI But if you have a textile material nonwoven, 00:13:36.264 --> 00:13:41.410 polypropylene, or really any textile material that is then coded on one side. 00:13:41.410 --> 00:13:46.390 LAZARO, VIKKI And that outer surface of the finished article 00:13:46.390 --> 00:13:47.850 is the plastic sheeting. 00:13:47.850 --> 00:13:52.710 So in this case, if if we made a 42 or two article from this this material 00:13:52.710 --> 00:13:55.290 that I'm showing you here you have one side 00:13:55.290 --> 00:13:59.000 with the the white colored textile side and then you have 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:03.050 the plastic sheeting orange side if we use this to make. 00:14:03.050 --> 00:14:07.040 LAZARO, VIKKI An orange handbag, meaning that plastic sheeting 00:14:07.040 --> 00:14:08.220 is the outer surface. 00:14:08.220 --> 00:14:11.280 This would be classified as outer surface plastic sheeting. 00:14:11.280 --> 00:14:13.360 So we're looking at the finished article. 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:17.200 And this is regardless of where this particular coded fabric 00:14:17.201 --> 00:14:20.650 would be classified on its own if it came in bulk. 00:14:21.710 --> 00:14:23.840 LAZARO, VIKKI Umm outer surface plastic sheeting. 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:25.870 So when you have coated textiles. 00:14:25.870 --> 00:14:30.150 LAZARO, VIKKI You want to be really clear number one, 00:14:30.150 --> 00:14:34.560 that plastic sheeting is potentially in play and #2 which side? 00:14:34.560 --> 00:14:36.220 LAZARO, VIKKI Of the coated. 00:14:36.220 --> 00:14:40.690 LAZARO, VIKKI Fabric is making up the outer surface of the finished item. 00:14:45.167 --> 00:14:48.940 LAZARO, VIKKI And then another thing that causes some confusion is wristlets. 00:14:49.767 --> 00:14:50.220 LAZARO, VIKKI And. 00:14:51.067 --> 00:14:51.920 LAZARO, VIKKI You know, we get. 00:14:51.920 --> 00:14:52.810 Oh, is it a wallet? 00:14:52.810 --> 00:14:53.920 Is it a handbag? 00:14:53.920 --> 00:14:54.900 You know, it has a strap. 00:14:54.900 --> 00:14:55.640 What do we do? 00:14:55.640 --> 00:14:58.200 Get a lot of these type of questions and a wristlet. 00:14:59.900 --> 00:15:01.932 LAZARO, VIKKI Is not. 00:15:01.933 --> 00:15:05.450 LAZARO, VIKKI It is not a term that really has any significance 00:15:05.450 --> 00:15:06.786 within heading 4202. 00:15:06.800 --> 00:15:11.520 LAZARO, VIKKI A wristlet is more of a retail term for. 00:15:13.100 --> 00:15:17.830 LAZARO, VIKKI So it could have. 00:15:17.830 --> 00:15:20.990 It could be a a wrist strap attached to a handbag. 00:15:20.990 --> 00:15:22.600 It could be a wrist strap attached to a wallet. 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:24.440 It could be a risk drop attached to. 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:25.210 Or you could. 00:15:25.210 --> 00:15:29.670 I've seen wrist straps attached to spectacle cases, so the fact 00:15:29.670 --> 00:15:33.580 that it has this wristlet term in the marketing or the fact 00:15:33.580 --> 00:15:38.010 that it has a risk strap doesn't automatically change the classification. 00:15:40.567 --> 00:15:44.320 LAZARO, VIKKI So it comes up most often with wallet versus handbag. 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:46.850 LAZARO, VIKKI And often there are even detachable. 00:15:48.500 --> 00:15:50.580 LAZARO, VIKKI So this does not change the classification. 00:15:50.580 --> 00:15:52.700 This is not what we're looking for. 00:15:52.700 --> 00:15:55.450 We're not looking for a restrap when we're making these determinations. 00:15:55.450 --> 00:15:57.240 LAZARO, VIKKI Umm. 00:15:57.240 --> 00:15:58.570 In fact, at the subheading level. 00:15:59.833 --> 00:16:01.670 LAZARO, VIKKI Where we have the subheading for handbags, 00:16:01.670 --> 00:16:02.820 it says whether or not with. 00:16:07.110 --> 00:16:10.300 LAZARO, VIKKI Says whether or not with shoulder strap, including those 00:16:10.300 --> 00:16:11.340 without a handle. 00:16:11.340 --> 00:16:15.680 So right here at the sub heading level, it's letting us know. 00:16:15.680 --> 00:16:18.190 Strap no strap, doesn't matter. 00:16:18.190 --> 00:16:18.749 Doesn't matter. 00:16:18.770 --> 00:16:21.100 So we're not looking at whether or not it has a wrist drop. 00:16:21.100 --> 00:16:21.600 And in terms of. 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:25.380 LAZARO, VIKKI The language of the word wristlet doesn't mean anything 00:16:25.380 --> 00:16:26.380 for tariff purposes. 00:16:26.380 --> 00:16:29.640 It's more of a like I said, a marketing or a retail term. 00:16:33.033 --> 00:16:34.290 LAZARO, VIKKI So what is the wallet? 00:16:34.290 --> 00:16:37.040 What is the difference between a wallet versus a handbag? 00:16:37.040 --> 00:16:39.720 How do we tell the difference if it's not about the wrist strap? 00:16:41.833 --> 00:16:43.350 LAZARO, VIKKI Well, here we have two wallets. 00:16:43.350 --> 00:16:47.030 LAZARO, VIKKI One does have a strap, the other one does not. 00:16:47.030 --> 00:16:52.650 What we're seeing here is that they are lacking the storage 00:16:52.683 --> 00:16:54.000 for three dimensional objects. 00:16:55.900 --> 00:16:59.020 LAZARO, VIKKI They are intended for flat goods such as paper. 00:16:59.020 --> 00:17:00.650 Uh, your identification. 00:17:00.650 --> 00:17:02.530 Even the coin would be considered a flat good. 00:17:02.530 --> 00:17:07.490 A small coin purse or small coin compartment rather is permitted 00:17:07.490 --> 00:17:08.922 with or without a stroller strap. 00:17:08.923 --> 00:17:12.270 So really the difference between a wallet and a handbag is we're looking 00:17:12.271 --> 00:17:15.551 for space for three dimensional objects. 00:17:18.550 --> 00:17:21.060 LAZARO, VIKKI And wallets are classified as articles 00:17:21.060 --> 00:17:25.460 of a kind normally carried in the pocket or the sub or in the handbag 00:17:25.460 --> 00:17:26.410 at the subheading level. 00:17:29.100 --> 00:17:31.420 LAZARO, VIKKI And again, with or without a strap, 00:17:31.420 --> 00:17:34.270 if it doesn't have the space for the three. 00:17:34.270 --> 00:17:40.580 LAZARO, VIKKI It's not going to be considered a handbag. 00:17:40.580 --> 00:17:42.390 It's going to be considered a wallet. 00:17:43.900 --> 00:17:47.920 LAZARO, VIKKI So here we have the inside of a handbag you're seeing. 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:52.580 It's like that open generic storage space for three dimensional objects. 00:17:52.580 --> 00:17:56.670 While it append lip gloss, we have here another one here. 00:17:56.670 --> 00:18:01.110 Handbags have that open general generic space 00:18:01.110 --> 00:18:03.950 for various smaller 3 dimensional objects. 00:18:08.100 --> 00:18:10.480 LAZARO, VIKKI Here we see at the, so this one would be a handbag. 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:13.300 We're seeing space for three dimensional objects. 00:18:15.767 --> 00:18:18.950 LAZARO, VIKKI This is the kind that really gets people confused 00:18:18.950 --> 00:18:22.310 because it's kind of right in what you'd call that Gray area. 00:18:22.310 --> 00:18:27.260 You're seeing some features of a wallet with the the slots for credit cards 00:18:27.260 --> 00:18:31.058 or identification, and then it has minimal space 00:18:31.059 --> 00:18:33.460 for three dimensional objects. 00:18:34.167 --> 00:18:36.730 LAZARO, VIKKI So a handbag can have some slots. 00:18:36.730 --> 00:18:40.713 A handbag can have some what quote UN quote wallet type features 00:18:40.714 --> 00:18:43.180 like the slots for credit cards. 00:18:43.180 --> 00:18:44.980 LAZARO, VIKKI But this one does have. 00:18:46.833 --> 00:18:48.340 LAZARO, VIKKI It it's minimal. 00:18:48.340 --> 00:18:52.490 It's not, you know, the biggest handbag I've ever seen, but it does have space 00:18:52.490 --> 00:18:54.250 for those three dimensional objects. 00:18:54.250 --> 00:18:56.760 So when you're looking for the line in the sand, 00:18:56.760 --> 00:19:00.230 this one I would do as a handbag, you know, it's got that space 00:19:00.230 --> 00:19:01.530 for the three dimensional objects. 00:19:03.838 --> 00:19:06.560 LAZARO, VIKKI Or at least one or two three dimensional objects. 00:19:08.633 --> 00:19:09.190 LAZARO, VIKKI OK. 00:19:09.190 --> 00:19:13.420 And now the biggest question in 4202 was always handbag versus tote bag 00:19:13.420 --> 00:19:15.420 and again, tote bags are considered travel bags, 00:19:15.420 --> 00:19:16.640 that's where they're classified. 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:19.040 Keep that in mind as we go along. 00:19:19.040 --> 00:19:21.570 So how do we determine handbag versus topic? 00:19:23.300 --> 00:19:26.480 LAZARO, VIKKI Well, we have a lot of it's common misconceptions 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:29.120 in this conversation, so let's go over a couple of them. 00:19:30.700 --> 00:19:33.740 LAZARO, VIKKI I've heard if it has a zipper, it's a handbag, right? 00:19:35.233 --> 00:19:37.480 LAZARO, VIKKI What about aligning if it has a lining? 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:38.550 It's definitely a handbag. 00:19:39.900 --> 00:19:40.880 LAZARO, VIKKI I'm busy. 00:19:40.880 --> 00:19:44.020 I need a lot of stuff everyday, so my big bag is my handbag. 00:19:45.500 --> 00:19:51.650 LAZARO, VIKKI All shoulder bags are sandbagged, right? 00:19:54.030 --> 00:20:02.810 LAZARO, VIKKI Might want to lower your volume a little bit. 00:20:04.230 --> 00:20:07.000 LAZARO, VIKKI Dot zippers. 00:20:09.367 --> 00:20:12.540 It's all about the space, about the space. 00:20:12.540 --> 00:20:16.420 LAZARO, VIKKI Not linings. 00:20:17.353 --> 00:20:23.720 LAZARO, VIKKI It's all about the space, about the space, not pockets. 00:20:24.710 --> 00:20:28.150 It's all about the space, about the space, about the space, space, space, 00:20:28.150 --> 00:20:28.850 space, space. 00:20:31.355 --> 00:20:33.210 LAZARO, VIKKI OK, I hope I didn't hurt your ears, 00:20:33.210 --> 00:20:35.560 but it's all about the space. 00:20:35.560 --> 00:20:36.800 That's what we're talking about. 00:20:37.900 --> 00:20:38.560 LAZARO, VIKKI Not outer space. 00:20:41.033 --> 00:20:44.720 LAZARO, VIKKI The interior space of the bag. 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:45.850 That's what we're looking at. 00:20:47.167 --> 00:20:48.370 LAZARO, VIKKI I'm glad I didn't hurt your ears. 00:20:48.370 --> 00:20:52.080 I see your little thumbs up, so I'm glad I didn't hurt you. 00:20:52.080 --> 00:20:55.260 So with handbag versus Toad, it's all about the space. 00:20:55.260 --> 00:20:59.010 Cause say the same thing about the wallets versus the handbag. 00:20:59.010 --> 00:21:01.240 It's about that interior space. 00:21:04.967 --> 00:21:07.210 LAZARO, VIKKI So what are we looking for? 00:21:07.210 --> 00:21:09.260 LAZARO, VIKKI So here's I love this photo. 00:21:09.260 --> 00:21:10.780 This is one of my favorite photos. 00:21:10.780 --> 00:21:13.770 If you come to my webinars every year, you may have already seen it, 00:21:13.770 --> 00:21:16.200 but I love it because we have. 00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:19.630 If I described these two bags to you without the dimensions, 00:21:19.630 --> 00:21:21.530 they're going to sound identical. 00:21:21.530 --> 00:21:25.070 Same handles, same material, same shape. 00:21:25.070 --> 00:21:28.050 We're gonna assume for argument's purpose at the interior is the same, 00:21:28.050 --> 00:21:29.610 lining the same number of pockets. 00:21:29.610 --> 00:21:32.770 LAZARO, VIKKI But because one is larger. 00:21:33.700 --> 00:21:36.900 LAZARO, VIKKI And it's gonna have more space. 00:21:36.900 --> 00:21:40.000 One could be a a tote bag and the other could be a handbag. 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:43.920 LAZARO, VIKKI So keep that in mind, especially if you guys have a lot 00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:46.350 of products where they're all similar and they're all different sizes. 00:21:46.350 --> 00:21:50.210 LAZARO, VIKKI You can't just look at the the description. 00:21:50.210 --> 00:21:52.980 You have to look at the dimensions as well. 00:21:52.980 --> 00:21:54.800 The interior storage capacity. 00:21:56.520 --> 00:21:59.180 LAZARO, VIKKI So handbags are designed in size 00:21:59.180 --> 00:22:03.230 to contain small articles commonly carried on a daily basis, 00:22:03.230 --> 00:22:05.120 keys, while it lipstick compact. 00:22:05.120 --> 00:22:08.660 And remember those are three dimensional objects just to reinforce that. 00:22:10.298 --> 00:22:12.110 LAZARO, VIKKI So these are the kind of things that would be 00:22:12.110 --> 00:22:14.940 what you would be able to fit in a in a in a handbag 00:22:14.940 --> 00:22:17.200 that would be a handbag for tariff purposes. 00:22:18.967 --> 00:22:21.580 LAZARO, VIKKI We have the brush, a lip gloss and a little clip. 00:22:21.580 --> 00:22:25.950 Do you smaller articles for the things that you might bring, you know, 00:22:25.957 --> 00:22:28.659 just to go out to dinner or you're gonna be leaving the house 00:22:28.660 --> 00:22:30.390 just for a few hours? 00:22:32.420 --> 00:22:33.500 LAZARO, VIKKI Tote bags. 00:22:34.641 --> 00:22:36.410 LAZARO, VIKKI Are classified as travel bags. 00:22:37.967 --> 00:22:41.810 LAZARO, VIKKI My mouse is a little slippery today, sorry about that. 00:22:41.810 --> 00:22:45.310 Designed and sized to contain larger personal effects associated with travel. 00:22:45.310 --> 00:22:46.900 If you've ever asked for a ruling for me, 00:22:46.900 --> 00:22:50.180 you've definitely gotten that language. 00:22:50.180 --> 00:22:55.060 We're looking at books, clothing, shoes, food, beverages, things of that nature. 00:22:55.060 --> 00:23:00.550 So if you have a bag and it's the contents, it has this type of contents 00:23:00.550 --> 00:23:04.510 that a water bottle, a book, you know, other little pouches 00:23:04.510 --> 00:23:05.870 to organize the thing better. 00:23:05.870 --> 00:23:08.710 LAZARO, VIKKI Most likely you have a tote bag. 00:23:08.710 --> 00:23:12.290 You I don't see too many handbags that are gonna fit this amount of stuff. 00:23:13.149 --> 00:23:15.170 LAZARO, VIKKI Or this type of stuff. 00:23:15.170 --> 00:23:16.510 OK, this is the. 00:23:16.510 --> 00:23:17.570 This is the question we get the most. 00:23:18.845 --> 00:23:20.780 LAZARO, VIKKI What about the 12 inch rule? 00:23:20.780 --> 00:23:22.530 Well, what about the 12 inch roll? 00:23:22.530 --> 00:23:24.490 OK, it's the 12 inch quote UN quote. 00:23:24.490 --> 00:23:28.690 Rule is not a rule, it's a guideline and it's a guideline that makes a lot 00:23:28.690 --> 00:23:31.660 of sense though, because it is all about the space. 00:23:31.660 --> 00:23:36.310 LAZARO, VIKKI And once you have a bag that's having one side, 00:23:36.310 --> 00:23:41.260 at least one side about 12 inches, that is around the point 00:23:41.260 --> 00:23:45.510 where you're gonna have space for the larger items. 00:23:45.510 --> 00:23:46.810 So it's a guideline. 00:23:46.810 --> 00:23:51.400 It's not a rule, it's there to help you understand 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:54.100 where the Gray area starts so it. 00:23:54.100 --> 00:23:55.610 But it is all about the space. 00:23:55.610 --> 00:23:59.910 It's not a rule, but it it is a guidance that makes a lot of a lot of sense. 00:23:59.910 --> 00:24:02.500 I can't say this enough because when you're starting to see. 00:24:02.500 --> 00:24:05.550 LAZARO, VIKKI 1213 inches on one side. 00:24:05.550 --> 00:24:07.720 That's around the point where you're starting to be able 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.383 to fit those larger items associated with travel, 00:24:11.384 --> 00:24:13.580 so obviously keep it in mind. 00:24:13.580 --> 00:24:16.970 But you know, if you have a bag and it's, you know, 12.1 inches on, 00:24:16.970 --> 00:24:19.500 you have to look at the other features, the opening, 00:24:19.500 --> 00:24:24.120 the storage capacity is something about the design limiting 00:24:24.121 --> 00:24:26.000 or extending the use. 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:28.530 So it's all about the space. 00:24:31.746 --> 00:24:33.880 LAZARO, VIKKI OK, so now I just wanna go over 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:37.520 and just set the record straight about some layman's terms 00:24:37.520 --> 00:24:39.690 that are not applicable in heading 4202. 00:24:41.643 --> 00:24:43.600 LAZARO, VIKKI First one, we just went over is wristlets. 00:24:43.600 --> 00:24:46.800 That's just means that the article has a wrist strap, 00:24:46.800 --> 00:24:50.060 doesn't change the classification or determine it one way or the other. 00:24:52.167 --> 00:24:54.110 LAZARO, VIKKI But then we also have pocketbooks. 00:24:54.110 --> 00:24:56.300 You know, you could say somebody. 00:24:56.300 --> 00:24:58.400 Ohh, could you hand me my pop, my pocketbook? 00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:00.030 Go get me my pocketbook. 00:25:00.030 --> 00:25:01.910 You know, they might hand you an evening bag. 00:25:01.910 --> 00:25:04.020 They may hand you. 00:25:04.020 --> 00:25:07.900 You know, this giant tote bag that could fit a small child, you know? 00:25:09.633 --> 00:25:10.190 LAZARO, VIKKI It's not. 00:25:10.190 --> 00:25:11.900 It's just a layman's terms for the bag. 00:25:11.900 --> 00:25:13.880 I chose to bring with me today. 00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:16.780 It doesn't have a a tariff significance, pocketbook. 00:25:16.780 --> 00:25:17.740 So forget about that one. 00:25:19.433 --> 00:25:26.060 LAZARO, VIKKI And then purse again in common vernacular purse and. 00:25:26.060 --> 00:25:27.530 LAZARO, VIKKI Purse. 00:25:27.530 --> 00:25:29.700 And I'm gonna answer any questions at the end, guys. 00:25:29.700 --> 00:25:31.100 So just let just bear with me. 00:25:31.100 --> 00:25:32.380 I might also answer your question. 00:25:32.380 --> 00:25:36.000 LAZARO, VIKKI As we go, so purrs and pocketbook are in. 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:40.280 LAZARO, VIKKI You know, common vernacular, synonymous 00:25:40.280 --> 00:25:45.120 with the bag I chose to carry with me today, but for Tara purposes, 00:25:45.120 --> 00:25:48.220 purse and handbag are absolutely not synonymous. 00:25:48.220 --> 00:25:55.290 LAZARO, VIKKI For the purposes of 4202, purses refers to coin purses, 00:25:55.290 --> 00:25:58.910 not to handbags or tote bags or anything like that. 00:25:58.910 --> 00:26:03.990 So for tariff purposes, purses there, there is a classification for purses 00:26:03.990 --> 00:26:06.660 and heading 4202, but it's for coin purses. 00:26:10.233 --> 00:26:12.800 LAZARO, VIKKI And those, incidentally, are classified as articles 00:26:12.800 --> 00:26:15.750 of a kind normally carried in the pocket of or in the handbag, 00:26:15.750 --> 00:26:16.750 along with wallets. 00:26:20.100 --> 00:26:23.020 LAZARO, VIKKI And then the final layman's term that I want 00:26:23.020 --> 00:26:24.500 to talk about is cosmetic cases. 00:26:24.500 --> 00:26:27.530 We get a lot of classification questions and it's just a lot of questions 00:26:27.530 --> 00:26:30.360 in general about cosmetic cases. 00:26:30.360 --> 00:26:33.660 Well, cosmetic case is another one of these layman's terms 00:26:33.660 --> 00:26:38.100 that doesn't have significance in heading 4202. 00:26:39.567 --> 00:26:42.200 LAZARO, VIKKI Cosmetic cases could mean many things 00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:45.128 and it means different things to different people. 00:26:45.128 --> 00:26:48.000 LAZARO, VIKKI So these are three different bags. 00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:48.733 Step. 00:26:48.733 --> 00:26:52.033 Somebody might refer to as a cosmetic case. 00:26:52.033 --> 00:26:53.300 LAZARO, VIKKI In real life. 00:29:20.713 --> 00:29:24.332 LAZARO, VIKKI But it's really not because you have numerous pockets, 00:29:24.333 --> 00:29:26.003 but they're all generic pockets. 00:29:26.003 --> 00:29:31.847 You see, you just have a mesh pocket, uh, a plastic sheeting pocket. 00:29:31.847 --> 00:29:34.293 It has lots of compartments, but the compartments aren't dedicated 00:29:34.293 --> 00:29:36.278 to anything precise. 00:29:36.278 --> 00:29:39.177 And and also it's for toiletry articles, not for cosmetics. 00:29:39.177 --> 00:29:40.428 Anyway. 00:29:40.428 --> 00:29:45.445 So this would not be considered a boundary case for tower purposes. 00:29:45.445 --> 00:29:50.266 These these two types would be travel, sport and similar and. 00:29:50.267 --> 00:29:55.111 LAZARO, VIKKI These are both the type of case that's usually. 00:29:55.111 --> 00:29:58.390 LAZARO, VIKKI Then going to be carried in a larger item, 00:29:58.390 --> 00:30:01.600 for example a tote bag or a suitcase. 00:30:01.600 --> 00:30:04.720 So these are the type of things they're travel articles, but they're used 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:10.180 to organize your belongings, generally inside a larger travel. 00:30:10.180 --> 00:30:13.050 LAZARO, VIKKI But larger travel case, again like a suitcase or tote bag. 00:30:17.700 --> 00:30:19.184 LAZARO, VIKKI And then another question 00:30:19.185 --> 00:30:20.660 we get sometimes is the difference 00:30:20.660 --> 00:30:24.800 between a handbag and a generic pouch. 00:30:24.800 --> 00:30:26.860 Now if you look at these two here, they're both the same color. 00:30:26.860 --> 00:30:29.980 LAZARO, VIKKI They're probably both made of plastic sheeting. 00:30:31.392 --> 00:30:33.370 LAZARO, VIKKI They both have a zipper at the top there probably 00:30:33.370 --> 00:30:34.690 about the same size. 00:30:34.690 --> 00:30:37.470 One has a wrist strap, one has kind of like a hook. 00:30:37.470 --> 00:30:42.650 LAZARO, VIKKI Umm, you know, they are similar in a lot of ways. 00:30:42.650 --> 00:30:43.540 So what do we think? 00:30:43.540 --> 00:30:46.260 Let's just break down what the difference is between a handbag 00:30:46.260 --> 00:30:48.130 and a generic pouch. 00:30:51.853 --> 00:30:53.390 LAZARO, VIKKI I actually think that this is one 00:30:53.390 --> 00:30:56.100 of the things sometimes people overthink, sometimes 00:30:56.100 --> 00:31:00.560 when something is so simple you don't trust that it's simple 00:31:00.560 --> 00:31:02.120 and you then overthink it. 00:31:02.120 --> 00:31:05.590 And from in my opinion, this is one of those instances where people. 00:31:07.087 --> 00:31:09.200 LAZARO, VIKKI Think it overthink it. 00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:10.310 So a handbag. 00:31:10.310 --> 00:31:11.660 It's it's it's kind of like one of things. 00:31:11.660 --> 00:31:13.940 You know it when you see it, except unless it's a tough 00:31:13.940 --> 00:31:15.730 then you don't you then you gotta measure it. 00:31:15.730 --> 00:31:20.100 But you know, like a handbag is something that's here's the difference. 00:31:20.100 --> 00:31:23.770 A handbag is something that's clearly meant to be carried on its own. 00:31:23.770 --> 00:31:24.770 It's part of the outfit. 00:31:24.770 --> 00:31:26.170 It's part of your day. 00:31:26.170 --> 00:31:27.070 You're not going to. 00:31:27.070 --> 00:31:31.670 LAZARO, VIKKI Normally, take your hand bag and then carry it 00:31:31.670 --> 00:31:33.380 in another travel bag. 00:31:33.380 --> 00:31:34.300 You know you're not gonna take. 00:31:34.300 --> 00:31:38.470 You're not gonna use a handbag to further organize a suitcase 00:31:38.470 --> 00:31:40.610 or further organize a tote bag. 00:31:40.610 --> 00:31:42.140 It's carried on its own. 00:31:42.140 --> 00:31:43.130 It's its own thing. 00:31:43.130 --> 00:31:44.540 It has its own destiny. 00:31:44.540 --> 00:31:45.880 It's a handbag. 00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:48.220 You're using it to carry your personal effects. 00:31:48.220 --> 00:31:53.570 LAZARO, VIKKI You're not using it to organize another bag, usually. 00:31:54.634 --> 00:32:01.780 LAZARO, VIKKI Umm whereas generic pouches like I said usually are used. 00:32:03.660 --> 00:32:07.360 LAZARO, VIKKI As a way to organize your belongings in another, 00:32:07.360 --> 00:32:08.220 larger container. 00:32:08.220 --> 00:32:09.760 So think about it this way. 00:32:09.760 --> 00:32:12.010 You know if you have a generic couch, you're not gonna just walk around 00:32:12.010 --> 00:32:16.820 with your generic pouch, you're gonna be using it to store things 00:32:16.820 --> 00:32:20.300 and organize your things inside of another, larger BAP. 00:32:20.300 --> 00:32:24.610 So that's the main difference between a handbag and a generic pouch. 00:32:24.610 --> 00:32:28.510 Handbag is used on its own, it's its own, its own life, its own destiny. 00:32:28.510 --> 00:32:33.500 LAZARO, VIKKI A generic tote or generic pouch rather, excuse me, 00:32:33.500 --> 00:32:38.000 is going to you is gonna be used to organize another, 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:41.520 larger Bab and hello from Saint Thomas. 00:32:43.700 --> 00:32:44.840 LAZARO, VIKKI Umm. 00:32:45.833 --> 00:32:48.380 LAZARO, VIKKI So that's the difference, and you usually can see it. 00:32:48.380 --> 00:32:51.450 It's usually once you think of it that way, it's usually pretty clear 00:32:51.450 --> 00:32:52.240 what the difference is. 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.560 LAZARO, VIKKI Just in case it wasn't clear enough, 00:32:55.560 --> 00:32:56.530 I'm gonna break it down further. 00:32:58.342 --> 00:32:59.490 LAZARO, VIKKI So we have these two. 00:32:59.490 --> 00:33:01.500 We have a handbag and we have a generic pouch. 00:33:01.500 --> 00:33:05.220 Again, let's say they're the same dimensions, the same material. 00:33:06.951 --> 00:33:09.680 LAZARO, VIKKI And you're really not sure it's really, you know, what, Vicky? 00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:12.970 These absolutely could be classified in both places. 00:33:12.970 --> 00:33:14.440 I don't think that's gonna happen very often. 00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:16.627 But let's say for arguments sake that it did. 00:33:18.322 --> 00:33:21.600 LAZARO, VIKKI They're absolutely both classifiable as a pouch 00:33:21.600 --> 00:33:22.340 which is travel. 00:33:22.340 --> 00:33:24.860 LAZARO, VIKKI Or a handbag. 00:33:24.860 --> 00:33:26.460 OK, so now we go to the GRID. 00:33:31.111 --> 00:33:33.870 LAZARO, VIKKI And the DRI jury 3A heading, which provides, 00:33:33.870 --> 00:33:36.620 so you have this, you have this, it can be classified in both places, 00:33:36.620 --> 00:33:39.980 it could be classified as a generic pouch under travel 00:33:39.980 --> 00:33:42.240 or it could be classified as a handbag. 00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:43.210 Absolutely could go either way. 00:33:44.833 --> 00:33:47.630 LAZARO, VIKKI The heading which provides the most specific description 00:33:47.630 --> 00:33:51.990 shall be preferred to a heading, providing a more general description. 00:33:55.732 --> 00:33:57.860 LAZARO, VIKKI Handbags are specifically provided for. 00:33:57.860 --> 00:34:00.100 LAZARO, VIKKI It's at the heading level. 00:34:00.100 --> 00:34:01.400 This is very specific. 00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:04.770 There's either even specifically provided at the subheading level. 00:34:05.633 --> 00:34:06.900 LAZARO, VIKKI Where oops. 00:34:09.900 --> 00:34:11.590 LAZARO, VIKKI Whereas UM. 00:34:13.500 --> 00:34:14.780 LAZARO, VIKKI The generic pouches. 00:34:14.780 --> 00:34:19.000 LAZARO, VIKKI Are classified under other their travel sport and similar, 00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:20.030 which is other. 00:34:20.030 --> 00:34:22.880 It's a basket provision within heading 4202. 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:26.910 So if you have a handbag and it could also be classified as other, 00:34:26.910 --> 00:34:29.640 the gris tell us that we're going to classify them 00:34:29.640 --> 00:34:31.880 in the more specific provision. 00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:37.380 So if it was kind of on the line and it wasn't a clear one or the other, 00:34:37.380 --> 00:34:39.940 you would be going, if it can be classified as a handbag, 00:34:39.940 --> 00:34:41.560 that's where it goes. 00:34:41.560 --> 00:34:43.470 That's because it's the more specific provision. 00:34:47.367 --> 00:34:50.170 LAZARO, VIKKI You can't see it, but I talk with my hands a lot, 00:34:50.170 --> 00:34:53.940 so I keep touching the mouse by accident, so bear with me on that. 00:34:53.979 --> 00:34:54.979 Sorry about that. 00:34:55.610 --> 00:34:56.980 LAZARO, VIKKI So that's handbag. 00:34:56.980 --> 00:35:02.160 So we pursuant to JRI 3A, if it was class file in both classifiable 00:35:02.160 --> 00:35:04.100 in both places it would be a handbag. 00:35:06.567 --> 00:35:09.800 LAZARO, VIKKI And then this was a really, really interesting case study, 00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:11.050 uh, product that came in. 00:35:11.050 --> 00:35:12.590 We got questions on so. 00:35:12.590 --> 00:35:15.670 Just wanted to break this down for you because it's really I thought 00:35:15.670 --> 00:35:18.060 it was interesting to just show you a little bit of a case study 00:35:18.060 --> 00:35:20.010 how we break things down here. 00:35:21.033 --> 00:35:24.180 LAZARO, VIKKI So what we have here is there's this round part 00:35:24.180 --> 00:35:26.480 at the top is imitation pearls. 00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:27.010 They're made of glass. 00:35:29.033 --> 00:35:31.800 LAZARO, VIKKI It is permanently attached to these three articles 00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:37.700 that are dangling from this round pearled part. 00:35:38.433 --> 00:35:43.080 LAZARO, VIKKI And then dangling from the Pearl area, we have a lipstick case. 00:35:45.100 --> 00:35:46.210 LAZARO, VIKKI A card case. 00:35:46.210 --> 00:35:46.840 Oops. 00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:47.740 Show that a little better. 00:35:47.740 --> 00:35:48.740 A card case. 00:35:49.910 --> 00:35:51.130 LAZARO, VIKKI And a mirror. 00:35:51.130 --> 00:35:54.250 So we have three things dangling from this top part. 00:35:54.250 --> 00:35:59.750 And our question was, is this considered jewelry or is this Pearl, 00:35:59.750 --> 00:36:02.620 this imitation Pearl round part? 00:36:02.620 --> 00:36:07.390 Is it just the wrist strap for the other articles that are dangling from it? 00:36:07.390 --> 00:36:12.220 LAZARO, VIKKI The really interesting product and we went first 00:36:12.220 --> 00:36:13.530 to the explanatory notes. 00:36:13.530 --> 00:36:17.760 LAZARO, VIKKI For heading 7117, which is imitation jewellery. 00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:19.680 LAZARO, VIKKI And you see here this part. 00:36:21.567 --> 00:36:23.390 LAZARO, VIKKI That I've highlighted here. 00:36:23.390 --> 00:36:26.130 LAZARO, VIKKI Going to just expand that out for you. 00:36:27.367 --> 00:36:31.140 LAZARO, VIKKI It says it is to be noted that articles of personal use 00:36:31.140 --> 00:36:35.870 of a kind normally carried in the pocket in the handbag or on the person, 00:36:35.870 --> 00:36:40.450 such as those listed in paragraph B of the explanatory notes. 00:36:41.529 --> 00:36:45.409 LAZARO, VIKKI Are not regarded as imitation jewelry, so articles 00:36:45.410 --> 00:36:49.760 in this paragraph B of the explanatory notes are not recorded, 00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:52.650 are not regarded as imitation jewellery. 00:36:52.650 --> 00:36:54.100 So next thing we wanna do is find out. 00:36:54.100 --> 00:36:56.950 LAZARO, VIKKI What's in this paragraph B? 00:36:56.950 --> 00:36:59.580 LAZARO, VIKKI So that's what we did paragraph B. 00:36:59.580 --> 00:37:02.330 LAZARO, VIKKI Articles of personal use normally carried in the pocket 00:37:02.330 --> 00:37:05.550 of the handbag or on the person such as cigar cigarette cases, 00:37:05.550 --> 00:37:10.820 snuffboxes, spectacle cases, powder cases, lipstick holders, Ding, Ding, 00:37:10.820 --> 00:37:12.460 Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, lipstick holders. 00:37:12.460 --> 00:37:16.670 LAZARO, VIKKI Are not considered mutation jewelry. 00:37:17.633 --> 00:37:18.570 LAZARO, VIKKI And if that wasn't enough. 00:37:19.967 --> 00:37:22.630 LAZARO, VIKKI We can also so here we had we did have a lipstick case, 00:37:22.630 --> 00:37:22.990 like I said. 00:37:22.990 --> 00:37:24.260 Ding, Ding, Ding. 00:37:24.260 --> 00:37:27.660 But then we also had it just from the beginning. 00:37:27.660 --> 00:37:31.020 Articles of personal use normally carried in the pocket or in the handbag. 00:37:31.020 --> 00:37:35.720 Now there's a sub heading in heading 4202 for articles normally carried 00:37:35.720 --> 00:37:36.890 in the pocket or the handbag. 00:37:36.890 --> 00:37:39.530 And guess what goes there card cases. 00:37:39.530 --> 00:37:43.170 So we have this kind of double double exclusion 00:37:43.170 --> 00:37:45.200 on this very interesting product. 00:37:45.200 --> 00:37:47.510 We have a card case and we have the lipstick case. 00:37:47.510 --> 00:37:48.750 So when you have something that is. 00:37:48.750 --> 00:37:51.981 LAZARO, VIKKI Anything in that description, 00:37:51.982 --> 00:37:54.110 a lipstick case or something 00:37:54.110 --> 00:37:56.000 of a kind normally carried in the pocket of the handbag 00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:59.830 and say it cannot be imitation jewellery. 00:37:59.830 --> 00:38:01.650 LAZARO, VIKKI So this one was classified. 00:38:01.665 --> 00:38:04.375 This one will be classified in heading 4202. 00:38:05.779 --> 00:38:08.529 LAZARO, VIKKI So I hope I hope you found that one interesting. 00:38:10.505 --> 00:38:12.350 LAZARO, VIKKI And that's how we break things down. 00:38:12.350 --> 00:38:17.470 We just go through the notes, the precedent and we just, you know, 00:38:17.470 --> 00:38:21.130 sometimes it's just through process of elimination to classify things properly. 00:38:21.130 --> 00:38:22.820 LAZARO, VIKKI So. 00:38:22.820 --> 00:38:27.050 LAZARO, VIKKI We're going to review now and I'm just going 00:38:27.050 --> 00:38:30.590 to open the chat box when you know what I can actually see the answers. 00:38:30.590 --> 00:38:31.170 So we're gonna review. 00:38:31.170 --> 00:38:32.510 I have a couple questions for you. 00:38:32.510 --> 00:38:34.080 Just to see if you were paying attention. 00:38:34.080 --> 00:38:39.860 So you can answer in the chat box or if well answer in the chat box, go ahead. 00:38:39.860 --> 00:38:40.930 So our first question is. 00:38:42.967 --> 00:38:48.080 LAZARO, VIKKI How would we classify this molded plastic handbag so you can 00:38:48.080 --> 00:38:51.820 either answer by saying, well, you know, let's see what you have, what do you, 00:38:51.820 --> 00:38:55.320 how do you think we would classify this multi plastic handbag? 00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:57.660 I see one person answered so far. 00:39:02.900 --> 00:39:03.280 LAZARO, VIKKI Yeah. 00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:03.570 OK. 00:39:03.570 --> 00:39:04.140 OK, you got it. 00:39:04.140 --> 00:39:05.070 You got it. 00:39:05.070 --> 00:39:06.680 So if you said chapter 39. 00:39:08.967 --> 00:39:11.550 LAZARO, VIKKI You were correct, and here's the full classification. 00:39:11.550 --> 00:39:16.150 And again, plastic articles are CRISPR ton and I asked, 00:39:16.150 --> 00:39:18.530 Chris Burton has our plastic expert. 00:39:18.530 --> 00:39:24.160 And so this would be 3926 ninety 9985, perfect. 00:39:24.160 --> 00:39:24.810 Everybody got it. 00:39:24.810 --> 00:39:25.860 So you were paying attention. 00:39:25.860 --> 00:39:26.480 Thank you so much. 00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:31.039 LAZARO, VIKKI So our next little question is this is multiple choice. 00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:32.309 How would you classify this? 00:39:32.310 --> 00:39:33.810 Would this be classified as full leather? 00:39:34.709 --> 00:39:36.439 LAZARO, VIKKI A wristlet. 00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:37.160 LAZARO, VIKKI A handbag. 00:39:38.833 --> 00:39:39.410 LAZARO, VIKKI Or a wallet. 00:39:44.033 --> 00:39:47.280 LAZARO, VIKKI So faux leather, a wristlet, a handbag or a wallet. 00:39:53.374 --> 00:39:55.940 LAZARO, VIKKI OK, I see a lot of people are saying wallet. 00:39:55.940 --> 00:39:57.560 Does anybody disagree with wallet? 00:40:04.767 --> 00:40:06.980 LAZARO, VIKKI That a lot of fours, a lot of wallets. 00:40:08.300 --> 00:40:11.038 LAZARO, VIKKI OK, so if you said wallet, you were correct, 00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:12.390 for bonus points. 00:40:12.390 --> 00:40:16.690 Can somebody tell me why they decided this was a wallet? 00:40:25.833 --> 00:40:27.970 LAZARO, VIKKI Anybody know why they want for the people? 00:40:27.970 --> 00:40:30.270 That said, while it did, why did you think it was a wallet? 00:40:40.833 --> 00:40:43.970 LAZARO, VIKKI No space for 3D objects, exactly. 00:40:43.970 --> 00:40:47.500 It's all about the space, about the space, so yes. 00:40:49.233 --> 00:40:51.540 LAZARO, VIKKI So it has no space for three dimensional objects, 00:40:51.540 --> 00:40:55.460 so this one would be a wallet regardless of whether or not it had that strap. 00:40:57.767 --> 00:41:01.180 LAZARO, VIKKI And then we have which materials are excluded 00:41:01.180 --> 00:41:04.000 from the first half of heading 4202? 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:04.680 Here are your choices. 00:41:09.033 --> 00:41:10.300 LAZARO, VIKKI Textile PU leather. 00:41:23.638 --> 00:41:24.810 LAZARO, VIKKI OK. 00:41:24.810 --> 00:41:25.980 Thanks, guys. 00:41:25.980 --> 00:41:27.650 So we're gonna move on to the next question now. 00:41:35.300 --> 00:41:36.240 LAZARO, VIKKI Can you leather? 00:41:46.033 --> 00:41:47.780 LAZARO, VIKKI It's just a little frozen. 00:41:47.780 --> 00:41:48.530 Just give it a minute. 00:41:48.530 --> 00:41:51.150 It's thinking my computer's a little tired today, I guess. 00:41:52.433 --> 00:41:54.960 LAZARO, VIKKI So so far we have the coosawattee thinking. 00:42:03.300 --> 00:42:06.830 LAZARO, VIKKI Which materials are not permitted in the first half 00:42:06.830 --> 00:42:08.660 of the heading we have plastic sheeting. 00:42:08.660 --> 00:42:10.690 LAZARO, VIKKI Molded plastic. 00:42:10.690 --> 00:42:13.500 LAZARO, VIKKI Or all of the above. 00:42:20.767 --> 00:42:22.670 LAZARO, VIKKI Some of you are getting ahead of me. 00:42:22.670 --> 00:42:26.230 OK, so the correct answer is none of the above. 00:42:26.230 --> 00:42:30.750 None of these materials are excluded from the first half of the heading. 00:42:30.750 --> 00:42:34.250 It's the second half of the heading that has the limits by material. 00:42:38.767 --> 00:42:41.400 LAZARO, VIKKI And then our final question is. 00:42:42.867 --> 00:42:44.580 LAZARO, VIKKI Sammy, I think some of you already got it. 00:42:45.700 --> 00:42:49.180 LAZARO, VIKKI This ones an extra credit is anything ever excluded 00:42:49.180 --> 00:42:51.250 from the first half of heading 4202? 00:43:01.110 --> 00:43:01.460 LAZARO, VIKKI Wait. 00:43:01.460 --> 00:43:02.160 LAZARO, VIKKI Material. 00:43:02.160 --> 00:43:02.490 Yes. 00:43:02.490 --> 00:43:03.690 Remember, we had that chapter. 00:43:03.690 --> 00:43:08.810 Note that excluded plating material from all of heading 4202. 00:43:31.167 --> 00:43:33.581 LAZARO, VIKKI Bear with me one second while I just changed my settings 00:43:33.590 --> 00:43:35.890 so I can see what you're saying a little better. 00:43:35.890 --> 00:43:36.810 Sorry for the delay. 00:43:36.810 --> 00:43:37.730 OK, there we go. 00:43:37.730 --> 00:43:38.890 Perfect. 00:43:38.890 --> 00:43:39.290 OK. 00:43:39.290 --> 00:43:39.410 So. 00:43:42.300 --> 00:43:43.890 LAZARO, VIKKI The next thing we're going to talk about. 00:43:48.700 --> 00:43:51.050 LAZARO, VIKKI If my slides will advance. 00:44:03.198 --> 00:44:05.750 LAZARO, VIKKI They won't just bear with me, just seems 00:44:05.750 --> 00:44:07.400 to be thinking a little bit too much today. 00:44:12.833 --> 00:44:16.070 LAZARO, VIKKI You guys are you guys still seeing the extra credits slide 00:44:16.070 --> 00:44:18.710 or are you guys seeing the slides that had advanced? 00:44:18.710 --> 00:44:20.610 I for me it's a little frozen. 00:44:20.610 --> 00:44:23.150 Can you just give me a little feedback on that? 00:44:23.150 --> 00:44:24.820 Are you still seeing the extra credits slide? 00:44:41.610 --> 00:44:43.180 LAZARO, VIKKI Can somebody let me know what they're seeing? 00:44:48.803 --> 00:44:51.250 LAZARO, VIKKI Does everybody still see the extra credit slide 00:44:51.250 --> 00:44:54.840 or are they advancing because on my side they're frozen right now? 00:44:59.433 --> 00:45:00.100 LAZARO, VIKKI OK. 00:45:01.300 --> 00:45:04.580 LAZARO, VIKKI Umm so I'm getting the red circle. 00:45:04.580 --> 00:45:07.020 LAZARO, VIKKI So is there something I should do? 00:45:07.020 --> 00:45:09.220 It's just kind of the red circles just going around. 00:45:10.433 --> 00:45:12.224 LAZARO, VIKKI Should I stop presenting maybe 00:45:12.225 --> 00:45:14.290 and and take control back later? 00:45:21.233 --> 00:45:21.390 KIM, JINHEE Sure. 00:45:21.390 --> 00:45:21.810 And Vicki? 00:45:21.810 --> 00:45:22.280 LAZARO, VIKKI Vicki. 00:45:23.967 --> 00:45:25.380 KIM, JINHEE We can reupload it and we upload it for you. 00:45:25.380 --> 00:45:25.950 LAZARO, VIKKI Stop. 00:45:25.950 --> 00:45:27.990 LAZARO, VIKKI Florida, I will upload you well, if I just stop presenting. 00:45:27.990 --> 00:45:30.770 Maybe do you think it will just and then just take it back again. 00:45:30.770 --> 00:45:31.750 Do you think that would just reset it? 00:45:31.750 --> 00:45:32.550 OK, I'm gonna stop presenting. 00:45:32.550 --> 00:45:32.920 KIM, JINHEE Yeah. 00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:33.760 KIM, JINHEE Yeah. 00:45:55.633 --> 00:45:56.950 LAZARO, VIKKI Guys, I'm so sorry. 00:45:56.950 --> 00:45:57.940 Thank you for your patience. 00:46:00.433 --> 00:46:03.040 LAZARO, VIKKI Just give me a give us a couple seconds 00:46:03.040 --> 00:46:04.510 to just get this resorted. 00:46:11.767 --> 00:46:15.030 LAZARO, VIKKI Jin, he maybe you take control because it's saying 00:46:15.030 --> 00:46:19.990 if I stop presenting, it's going to unload it. 00:46:19.990 --> 00:46:22.320 So do you wanna just take control and then I'll take control back. 00:46:25.967 --> 00:46:26.590 KIM, JINHEE Sure. 00:46:26.590 --> 00:46:27.810 I actually have voted for you. 00:46:27.810 --> 00:46:28.940 Can you take control from me? 00:46:28.940 --> 00:46:29.690 Do you see the slides? 00:46:29.690 --> 00:46:31.730 LAZARO, VIKKI Is it just my I I still have the old one up 00:46:31.730 --> 00:46:32.470 with the stop presenting? 00:46:32.470 --> 00:46:35.180 LAZARO, VIKKI So maybe I'll just stop presenting it. 00:46:44.200 --> 00:46:44.810 LAZARO, VIKKI It's a guess. 00:46:44.810 --> 00:46:45.400 KIM, JINHEE Anything. 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:47.720 LAZARO, VIKKI Yeah, it won't let me. 00:46:49.567 --> 00:46:49.930 LAZARO, VIKKI OK. 00:46:49.930 --> 00:46:50.160 There we go. 00:46:50.160 --> 00:46:51.360 OK, I stopped to presenting. 00:47:06.700 --> 00:47:09.079 LAZARO, VIKKI Sorry guys for the technical difficulties, 00:47:09.080 --> 00:47:10.730 we should have a backup in just a second. 00:47:52.100 --> 00:47:53.420 LAZARO, VIKKI China, did you have? 00:47:53.420 --> 00:47:56.440 Did you wanna go on Mike and ask your question while we're waiting for this 00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:56.970 to come back up? 00:48:07.954 --> 00:48:09.580 LAZARO, VIKKI I see your hand raised. 00:48:09.580 --> 00:48:12.230 If somebody had the question that they wanna ask now while we're waiting 00:48:12.230 --> 00:48:14.320 for the slides to come back up, I can answer it now hopefully. 00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:15.110 KIM, JINHEE Becky, I just. 00:48:15.110 --> 00:48:16.010 KONG, FUNG KING Cannot you? 00:48:16.010 --> 00:48:18.390 All you have to do is unmute and you can ask the question. 00:48:18.390 --> 00:48:18.980 LAZARO, VIKKI That's ohh. 00:48:18.980 --> 00:48:20.690 I'm gonna try taking control again. 00:48:26.833 --> 00:48:29.640 LAZARO, VIKKI So it's I have my red circle. 00:48:29.640 --> 00:48:30.820 I saw something about dimensions. 00:48:30.820 --> 00:48:31.900 I'm gonna have to come back to it. 00:48:34.167 --> 00:48:36.880 LAZARO, VIKKI So Jenny, can you advance the slides to where I was? 00:48:39.288 --> 00:48:42.020 LAZARO, VIKKI If somebody wants to ask me a question on the MIC, 00:48:42.020 --> 00:48:44.240 I can take the question while these are uploaded, 00:48:44.240 --> 00:48:45.700 but I can't see the chat box right now. 00:48:53.567 --> 00:48:55.890 KONG, FUNG KING Amerie, Gina. 00:48:55.890 --> 00:48:57.490 I just gave you Mike access. 00:48:57.490 --> 00:49:00.780 You're welcome to unmute yourself and ask the question. 00:49:08.967 --> 00:49:10.080 LAZARO, VIKKI Janine di are you? 00:49:10.080 --> 00:49:11.710 Do you want me to take it back to big? 00:49:11.710 --> 00:49:14.460 Take back control and go to where I was or you doing gonna do that? 00:49:15.767 --> 00:49:16.860 KIM, JINHEE Yeah, I'm moving right now. 00:49:17.767 --> 00:49:18.710 KIM, JINHEE There with me one second. 00:49:19.833 --> 00:49:20.710 LAZARO, VIKKI Thank you. 00:49:26.967 --> 00:49:29.170 KIM, JINHEE Becky, do you see the slide where you left? 00:49:29.170 --> 00:49:30.430 Can you take, take take take control? 00:49:30.430 --> 00:49:32.780 LAZARO, VIKKI I I see only I see only the first slide. 00:49:44.708 --> 00:49:46.990 LAZARO, VIKKI Oh, I see it now, but I have this still the circle. 00:49:52.633 --> 00:49:55.020 LAZARO, VIKKI Slide 132, there's everybody saying. 00:49:55.020 --> 00:49:56.330 Thank you, guys. 00:49:56.330 --> 00:49:57.600 OK, let's see. 00:49:57.600 --> 00:49:58.060 OK. 00:49:58.060 --> 00:49:59.860 Sorry for that little detour, guys. 00:49:59.860 --> 00:50:02.700 This is the the world of the computer has its own. 00:50:04.900 --> 00:50:07.150 LAZARO, VIKKI So on mine, so I'm trying to take control now, jinhui. 00:50:13.433 --> 00:50:14.300 LAZARO, VIKKI Join here. 00:50:14.300 --> 00:50:17.150 It's not letting me take control, so can you just advance them for me? 00:50:18.633 --> 00:50:19.440 LAZARO, VIKKI Oh, you know what? 00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:20.150 Never mind. 00:50:20.150 --> 00:50:21.180 It's it's just slow. 00:50:22.500 --> 00:50:23.400 KIM, JINHEE No. 00:50:32.433 --> 00:50:33.183 LAZARO, VIKKI OK. 00:50:38.582 --> 00:50:41.000 LAZARO, VIKKI OK guys, so if you could just let me know 00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:45.900 if you're now seeing a slide that says binding rulings heading heading 4202. 00:51:00.081 --> 00:51:01.600 LAZARO, VIKKI Umm. 00:51:01.600 --> 00:51:06.040 So I'm gonna go over what we're looking for and binding rulings 00:51:06.040 --> 00:51:10.920 in this more virtual environment and then I will take all your questions. 00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:14.100 We're gonna take down the slides and I will answer all your questions 00:51:14.100 --> 00:51:15.560 as best I can. 00:51:15.560 --> 00:51:17.210 So let's just get through this. 00:51:17.243 --> 00:51:20.433 Hopefully the computer will be cooperative. 00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:23.430 And so just bear with us. 00:51:23.430 --> 00:51:27.450 So what we're looking for with binding rulings and heading 42, 00:51:27.450 --> 00:51:30.450 we're shifting away from physical samples. 00:53:38.922 --> 00:53:41.122 LAZARO, VIKKI Because again, we do wanna, you know, 00:53:41.122 --> 00:53:44.167 the 12 inch rule is only a guideline, but we still need to have an idea 00:53:44.167 --> 00:53:45.700 of those outer dimensions. 00:53:45.700 --> 00:53:50.633 And if there's anything particularly unique or unusual about the bag, 00:53:50.633 --> 00:53:52.633 take a photo of that too. 00:53:52.634 --> 00:53:54.634 You know, if it's compartmentalized on the inside. 01:04:31.053 --> 01:04:32.053 LAZARO, VIKKI Perfect. 01:04:32.053 --> 01:04:33.067 That's a good question. 01:04:33.067 --> 01:04:40.100 So if a phone case has space for additional items like some card slots 01:04:40.100 --> 01:04:44.100 for example, those would be in 4202. 01:04:44.100 --> 01:04:46.433 If they only have the space for the phone. 01:04:46.433 --> 01:04:52.767 So it's only containing one item, just the phone and no pockets or slots 01:04:52.767 --> 01:04:55.767 or anything of that nature for other articles, it would be 39, 01:04:55.767 --> 01:04:56.900 assuming it's plastic. 01:04:56.900 --> 01:05:00.367 Of course, if it does have any sort of wallet like features, 01:05:00.367 --> 01:05:02.233 those would remain in 4202. 01:05:04.300 --> 01:05:04.922 HEMMEN, COLLEEN OK. 01:05:04.922 --> 01:05:05.067 Thank you. 01:05:05.067 --> 01:05:05.900 LAZARO, VIKKI That answer your question. 01:05:05.900 --> 01:05:09.700 HEMMEN, COLLEEN Yeah, because we just had something come back from court 01:05:10.300 --> 01:05:11.925 and they just dismissed it. 01:05:11.951 --> 01:05:13.951 LAZARO, VIKKI Ohh. 01:05:13.951 --> 01:05:15.049 LAZARO, VIKKI Ohh well, we already that that already. 01:05:15.049 --> 01:05:17.291 That issue did already go to court and was decided on. 01:05:17.300 --> 01:05:20.433 So that's probably I would guess that's why. 01:05:20.433 --> 01:05:21.167 HEMMEN, COLLEEN OK. 01:05:21.173 --> 01:05:21.967 HEMMEN, COLLEEN OK. 01:05:21.967 --> 01:05:24.600 LAZARO, VIKKI OK, you could look at the OtterBox case if you want. 01:05:24.600 --> 01:05:25.600 HEMMEN, COLLEEN Thank you. 01:05:25.600 --> 01:05:25.964 HEMMEN, COLLEEN Yeah. 01:05:25.964 --> 01:05:26.867 LAZARO, VIKKI The court case you might want to read that. 01:05:26.867 --> 01:05:27.767 HEMMEN, COLLEEN Right. 01:05:27.767 --> 01:05:30.233 LAZARO, VIKKI OK, so ping Lin. 01:05:30.233 --> 01:05:33.633 I saw your name and if you and guys if you 01:05:33.633 --> 01:05:35.833 if you could just stick your hand down. 01:05:35.833 --> 01:05:39.033 When when you're done with your question that would be helpful. 01:05:39.033 --> 01:05:40.163 So what was your question? 01:05:40.163 --> 01:05:43.167 Ping Lin My question is, we have a tote bag 01:05:43.167 --> 01:05:48.167 that made up one side is paper and the rest of it the tote are made of textile. 01:05:49.633 --> 01:05:50.367 LAZARO, VIKKI OK. 01:05:51.100 --> 01:05:55.367 Ping Lin And what would be fit goes into as an article paper 01:05:55.367 --> 01:05:57.800 or the articles of a 42 or two. 01:05:57.800 --> 01:05:58.267 LAZARO, VIKKI What would you say? 01:05:58.267 --> 01:05:59.000 It's one side paper? 01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:00.200 What do you mean? 01:06:00.200 --> 01:06:03.633 Is it just made of paper or is it paper that's covering something? 01:06:03.633 --> 01:06:03.946 Ping Lin Paperboard. 01:06:03.946 --> 01:06:06.767 Ping Lin Yeah, it's it's just outside of paper for you to draw on. 01:06:06.767 --> 01:06:08.900 LAZARO, VIKKI For you to draw on. 01:06:08.900 --> 01:06:12.994 Ping Lin You can design your own front page, I mean. 01:06:13.033 --> 01:06:14.433 LAZARO, VIKKI But I mean is it like, but I'd say what I'm pitch. 01:06:14.433 --> 01:06:16.860 Is it like a paper bag that like the store gives you 01:06:16.860 --> 01:06:21.300 with your your purchases or is this a reusable bag? 01:06:21.300 --> 01:06:23.300 Ping Lin It's a reusable bag. 01:06:24.633 --> 01:06:28.026 LAZARO, VIKKI So I'm going to assume that the paper is over another material, 01:06:28.041 --> 01:06:29.167 is that correct? 01:06:29.167 --> 01:06:30.967 Ping Lin No. 01:06:30.967 --> 01:06:34.100 LAZARO, VIKKI So what's keeping the bag from falling apart? 01:06:34.100 --> 01:06:35.933 If it's just paper, not I'm not really. 01:06:35.933 --> 01:06:36.667 Ping Lin The rest of it, yeah. 01:06:36.667 --> 01:06:38.532 The rest of it is text. 01:06:38.532 --> 01:06:43.100 Now it's just like thick paper, like paper board. 01:06:43.100 --> 01:06:43.623 Yeah. 01:06:43.623 --> 01:06:43.929 LAZARO, VIKKI Thick paper. 01:06:43.929 --> 01:06:44.700 LAZARO, VIKKI Oh paperboard. 01:06:44.700 --> 01:06:47.433 Ping Lin Yeah, like cardboard, kind of. 01:06:47.433 --> 01:06:49.441 LAZARO, VIKKI I mean, cardboard and paperboard are permitted 01:06:49.441 --> 01:06:53.367 in the second half of the heading, so it's if you have two materials 01:06:53.367 --> 01:06:55.300 but you have a composite good, we'd have 01:06:55.300 --> 01:06:57.233 to make an essential character determination. 01:06:57.233 --> 01:07:03.833 So it really depends on which material would be the essential character. 01:07:03.833 --> 01:07:05.233 I'd have to take a look at it. 01:07:05.233 --> 01:07:07.752 LAZARO, VIKKI Umm, so you'd want to look at the value. 01:07:07.752 --> 01:07:13.233 The is one of which one of the materials is using the the majority 01:07:13.233 --> 01:07:14.900 of the outer surface. 01:07:14.900 --> 01:07:15.667 Ping Lin OK. 01:07:15.667 --> 01:07:21.033 LAZARO, VIKKI And you know which maybe which material is creating like 01:07:21.033 --> 01:07:23.900 which which material is creating the most visual effect. 01:07:23.900 --> 01:07:27.167 Those are usually three items that we'll be looking into 01:07:27.167 --> 01:07:30.367 for making an essential character determination. 01:07:30.367 --> 01:07:31.233 So there's not one answer there. 01:07:31.233 --> 01:07:32.515 It would depend on the other features. 01:07:32.515 --> 01:07:33.500 Ping Lin OK, alright. 01:07:34.967 --> 01:07:36.867 LAZARO, VIKKI Sounds like an unusual product. 01:07:36.867 --> 01:07:37.867 Ping Lin Yeah. 01:07:37.867 --> 01:07:38.667 Thanks. 01:07:38.667 --> 01:07:40.467 LAZARO, VIKKI OK, so I'm reading. 01:07:40.467 --> 01:07:41.014 I'm gonna read them. 01:07:41.014 --> 01:07:41.533 I'm gonna. 01:07:41.533 --> 01:07:42.468 I'm gonna go to the hands. 01:07:42.468 --> 01:07:43.367 But I do see a message here. 01:07:43.367 --> 01:07:46.167 Some importers may not be willing to allow publication 01:07:46.167 --> 01:07:48.033 if photos are published. 01:07:48.033 --> 01:07:49.267 Very true. 01:07:49.267 --> 01:07:49.800 Very true. 01:07:49.824 --> 01:07:51.399 We would need to get the importers. 01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:55.467 LAZARO, VIKKI Uh, permission for sure. 01:07:55.467 --> 01:07:56.666 On something like on a change like that. 01:07:56.666 --> 01:08:00.433 So I see couple more hands. 01:08:00.433 --> 01:08:02.500 Let me just see if I could figure out. 01:08:02.500 --> 01:08:04.531 LAZARO, VIKKI How to do this myself? 01:08:04.531 --> 01:08:08.100 Here you see, I think if I go here to the people. 01:08:08.100 --> 01:08:11.967 LAZARO, VIKKI So ping lend you have another question or is your hand 01:08:11.967 --> 01:08:13.500 just still up from before? 01:08:18.100 --> 01:08:18.696 LAZARO, VIKKI OK. 01:08:18.696 --> 01:08:21.233 So Jenny, can you just read out another name? 01:08:21.233 --> 01:08:23.233 Because I can't get to the chat box properly. 01:08:26.633 --> 01:08:28.500 KIM, JINHEE There are Gina. 01:08:29.500 --> 01:08:31.833 LAZARO, VIKKI Gina, can you ask your question? 01:08:40.099 --> 01:08:43.166 LAZARO, VIKKI OK, so maybe go to the next person. 01:08:43.167 --> 01:08:44.533 KIM, JINHEE Martha. 01:08:44.533 --> 01:08:46.061 LAZARO, VIKKI Call Gene Martha. 01:08:46.061 --> 01:08:46.967 KIM, JINHEE This long. 01:08:48.567 --> 01:08:49.967 Martha Long Already asked my question. 01:08:49.967 --> 01:08:50.933 Thank you. 01:08:50.933 --> 01:08:51.467 LAZARO, VIKKI OK. 01:08:51.467 --> 01:08:53.267 LAZARO, VIKKI So you could take your hand down. 01:08:53.267 --> 01:08:56.300 Anybody else have a question that they wanna that that we wanna 01:08:56.300 --> 01:08:58.367 if you wanna just jump in. 01:08:58.367 --> 01:08:59.500 If you have a question. 01:08:59.500 --> 01:09:01.000 Nadzeya Mizavets Yes, hi, Vicki. 01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:03.967 My question is, are dehydration bag limited 01:09:03.967 --> 01:09:07.500 to the over the shoulder style like backpack or can it be 01:09:07.500 --> 01:09:09.033 for example a waist pack? 01:09:09.033 --> 01:09:12.633 LAZARO, VIKKI You know, that's a complicated question. 01:09:12.633 --> 01:09:17.433 There's not one answer if it's if the hydration component 01:09:17.433 --> 01:09:20.033 is filling up the backpack. 01:09:20.033 --> 01:09:21.633 I'm sorry, filling. 01:09:21.633 --> 01:09:24.099 So obviously, they're usually backpacks or over the shoulder. 01:09:24.100 --> 01:09:25.700 LAZARO, VIKKI Umm. 01:09:25.700 --> 01:09:28.967 Is the bladder that you're talking about? 01:09:28.967 --> 01:09:33.833 Is it completely dedicated to that particular ***** Pack? 01:09:33.833 --> 01:09:34.517 Is it attached? 01:09:34.517 --> 01:09:35.300 Is it detachable? 01:09:35.300 --> 01:09:36.477 What are some? 01:09:36.477 --> 01:09:37.600 Nadzeya Mizavets Well, it is detachable. 01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:42.567 It is fully in the biggest pocket of the, you know, 01:09:42.567 --> 01:09:44.167 the ***** pack style kind of. 01:09:44.167 --> 01:09:49.033 And it has the tube that goes to over like over the shoulder to the mouth. 01:09:49.033 --> 01:09:52.100 LAZARO, VIKKI So it's it's dedicated to the. 01:09:52.100 --> 01:09:54.300 It's like they're fitted one to the other. 01:09:54.300 --> 01:09:55.433 Nadzeya Mizavets Yes. 01:09:55.433 --> 01:09:56.533 LAZARO, VIKKI Yeah. 01:09:56.533 --> 01:09:57.367 Umm. 01:09:59.445 --> 01:10:00.767 LAZARO, VIKKI I mean I'm. 01:10:00.767 --> 01:10:04.967 I'm, you know, just as an advisory since I'm not seeing it. 01:10:04.967 --> 01:10:08.633 I would say if it's, if they're dead, if the if the bladder is dedicated 01:10:08.633 --> 01:10:13.333 to the ***** pack and there isn't really a lot of space for other articles, 01:10:13.333 --> 01:10:15.033 it probably would be fine. 01:10:15.033 --> 01:10:18.700 LAZARO, VIKKI But if you're just taking, like some sort 01:10:18.700 --> 01:10:21.233 of like random bottle and just putting it in the ***** pack, 01:10:21.233 --> 01:10:24.300 then that it could be used for anything, you know, cause you're looking 01:10:24.300 --> 01:10:27.433 at it would be have to be a composite code where it's adapted to each other. 01:10:27.433 --> 01:10:28.467 Nadzeya Mizavets Uh-huh. 01:10:28.467 --> 01:10:31.033 LAZARO, VIKKI You know, and then the primary part is the bladder, 01:10:31.033 --> 01:10:34.367 if it has lots of space for other things, then probably not. 01:10:34.367 --> 01:10:36.033 Nadzeya Mizavets Thank you. 01:10:36.033 --> 01:10:37.000 LAZARO, VIKKI You're welcome. 01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:38.867 LAZARO, VIKKI Umm. 01:10:38.867 --> 01:10:41.767 So if if you if you already asked your question, 01:10:41.767 --> 01:10:43.633 if you wouldn't mind taking your hand down 01:10:43.633 --> 01:10:47.500 and then whoever has a question left, you could just jump in at this point. 01:10:47.500 --> 01:10:49.033 KIM, JINHEE Miss Leslie. 01:10:49.033 --> 01:10:50.900 Looney, Leslie Yes. 01:10:50.900 --> 01:10:53.767 How would you classify detachable pouch? 01:10:53.767 --> 01:10:55.267 It attaches with a steeper. 01:10:55.267 --> 01:10:57.433 LAZARO, VIKKI Ohh miss, I'm sorry I can't understand what you're saying. 01:10:57.433 --> 01:10:58.967 Can you speak up a little more? 01:10:58.967 --> 01:11:00.633 Looney, Leslie Yes, sorry. 01:11:00.633 --> 01:11:02.967 Looney, Leslie Uh, can you hear me now? 01:11:02.967 --> 01:11:04.500 LAZARO, VIKKI Sort of. 01:11:04.500 --> 01:11:06.433 Looney, Leslie OK, sorry. 01:11:06.433 --> 01:11:11.433 Looney, Leslie How would you classify a pouch or bag that attaches 01:11:11.432 --> 01:11:13.232 to the Super to a pen? 01:11:13.233 --> 01:11:16.082 LAZARO, VIKKI I'm sorry, I didn't understand what you said. 01:11:16.082 --> 01:11:16.600 I heard. 01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:18.633 I heard pouch and then I didn't hear the rest. 01:11:21.563 --> 01:11:27.832 Looney, Leslie OK, it it is a pouch that attaches to a pen with a sleeper. 01:11:29.433 --> 01:11:33.233 LAZARO, VIKKI So it's attaching to the pans like it's a pocket of the pans. 01:11:33.233 --> 01:11:33.733 Looney, Leslie Yes. 01:11:33.733 --> 01:11:35.067 Looney, Leslie Yes, and it detaches. 01:11:35.067 --> 01:11:37.100 LAZARO, VIKKI It detaches. 01:11:37.100 --> 01:11:41.033 Is it being imported with the pans or is it being imported on its own? 01:11:41.033 --> 01:11:42.900 Looney, Leslie With the pants. 01:11:42.900 --> 01:11:45.900 LAZARO, VIKKI So if it's, if it's, if it's, so that to me, 01:11:45.900 --> 01:11:46.800 I don't handle the pants. 01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:50.900 So you'd wanna send this product to the NIS for the pants 01:11:50.900 --> 01:11:53.400 and you know it's men's or woven or women's and all that stuff. 01:11:53.400 --> 01:11:56.970 But to me, it sounds like it's just a detachable pocket to the pants. 01:11:56.970 --> 01:11:57.560 Is that correct? 01:11:57.560 --> 01:12:00.700 LAZARO, VIKKI So it's to me it sounds like a composite good 01:12:00.700 --> 01:12:04.660 and even if it was a detachable pocket that came in on its own, 01:12:05.879 --> 01:12:10.019 that probably still wouldn't be 4202 cause it's just more like a, 01:12:10.020 --> 01:12:12.060 quote UN quote, part of the pans. 01:12:12.060 --> 01:12:15.570 It's not really something that you would buy on its own at retail 01:12:15.570 --> 01:12:17.960 or something that you would even be able to use on its own. 01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:19.320 If it's just a detachable pocket. 01:12:19.320 --> 01:12:20.510 Looney, Leslie Yes, correct. 01:12:20.510 --> 01:12:21.730 LAZARO, VIKKI Does that make sense? 01:12:21.731 --> 01:12:22.340 Looney, Leslie Yes. 01:12:22.340 --> 01:12:22.680 Umm, thank you. 01:12:22.680 --> 01:12:23.820 LAZARO, VIKKI OK. 01:12:23.820 --> 01:12:24.120 You're welcome. 01:12:26.067 --> 01:12:28.320 LAZARO, VIKKI Next question, if you could just if you, 01:12:28.320 --> 01:12:31.180 if I haven't answered your question yet, just feel free to just jump in. 01:12:39.292 --> 01:12:42.210 LAZARO, VIKKI I'm gonna try to see if I can open the chat box. 01:12:42.210 --> 01:12:43.760 It's so my computer is still frozen. 01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:45.350 Guys, I'm so sorry. 01:12:45.350 --> 01:12:46.430 KIM, JINHEE This. 01:12:46.430 --> 01:12:47.960 LAZARO, VIKKI It works for it. 01:12:47.960 --> 01:12:50.090 It works fine for you know, 364 days out of the year. 01:12:50.090 --> 01:12:51.530 And then you have to give a presentation. 01:12:51.530 --> 01:12:52.020 It freezes up. 01:12:52.020 --> 01:12:53.360 Luke Swenson 5. 01:12:53.360 --> 01:12:55.360 LAZARO, VIKKI OK, so I heard a voice. 01:12:55.360 --> 01:12:56.190 Luke Swenson Hi. 01:12:56.190 --> 01:12:56.670 Excuse me. 01:12:56.670 --> 01:13:01.550 I just had a question regarding the three dimensional objects. 01:13:01.550 --> 01:13:02.860 LAZARO, VIKKI Sure. 01:13:02.860 --> 01:13:07.600 Luke Swenson Umm so the issue is that all objects have 3 dimensions 01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:09.250 including paper dollar bills. 01:13:09.250 --> 01:13:13.460 So is there a limitation on the size of the object that goes inside 01:13:13.460 --> 01:13:17.110 of the container to determine whether a container is a wallet or a handbag? 01:13:17.110 --> 01:13:21.430 LAZARO, VIKKI Flat goods for for the purposes of this conversation, 01:13:21.430 --> 01:13:24.980 I would consider paper to be flat a flat good. 01:13:24.980 --> 01:13:30.120 When I say 3 dimensional objects I mean lipstick. 01:13:32.633 --> 01:13:36.270 LAZARO, VIKKI Point purses, things of that nature, not the objects 01:13:36.270 --> 01:13:38.310 that are normally associated with the wallet. 01:13:38.310 --> 01:13:39.440 So. 01:13:39.440 --> 01:13:43.070 LAZARO, VIKKI Umm, we'll say paper paper currency would be associated 01:13:43.070 --> 01:13:45.090 with the wallet credit cards. 01:13:46.260 --> 01:13:49.950 LAZARO, VIKKI Umm, obviously coins would be associated with the wallet. 01:13:49.950 --> 01:13:50.610 A checkbook. 01:13:52.233 --> 01:13:54.730 LAZARO, VIKKI Those kind of objects that normally are carried 01:13:54.730 --> 01:13:57.490 in a wallet would be what we're calling quote, 01:13:57.490 --> 01:13:59.650 quote UN quote flat goods flat items. 01:13:59.650 --> 01:14:01.580 LAZARO, VIKKI And then UM. 01:14:03.167 --> 01:14:05.890 LAZARO, VIKKI The three dimensional objects would be lip gloss, 01:14:05.890 --> 01:14:09.890 things that you saw in the in the webinar like lip gloss, a brush, 01:14:09.890 --> 01:14:12.020 makeup brush, cosmetics, things of that nature. 01:14:12.020 --> 01:14:14.360 LAZARO, VIKKI Does that make sense? 01:14:14.360 --> 01:14:15.600 Luke Swenson Yes, thank you. 01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:16.860 LAZARO, VIKKI You're welcome. 01:14:18.370 --> 01:14:21.000 LAZARO, VIKKI I did see a couple of questions in the chat box 01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:22.300 that I didn't get to. 01:14:22.300 --> 01:14:23.870 LAZARO, VIKKI Umm. 01:14:23.870 --> 01:14:26.160 So let me just see if I is. 01:14:26.160 --> 01:14:28.734 If anybody else has a question that I still missed, 01:14:28.735 --> 01:14:30.120 you could either go on MIC. 01:14:30.120 --> 01:14:32.860 LAZARO, VIKKI Or, uh, maybe Jen here. 01:14:32.860 --> 01:14:33.720 You could read them to me. 01:14:37.833 --> 01:14:40.930 KIM, JINHEE Yes, from Mr Chris Barrett for storage boxes 01:14:40.930 --> 01:14:46.110 with fabric exterior classify in Chapter 63 does adding straps 01:14:46.110 --> 01:14:49.360 to the box a place these in 42 or two. 01:14:49.360 --> 01:14:51.700 LAZARO, VIKKI No, not necessarily. 01:14:51.700 --> 01:14:52.290 No. 01:14:52.290 --> 01:14:54.590 If you have a box, a store, a home storage box. 01:14:54.590 --> 01:14:59.230 LAZARO, VIKKI We're looking at the use the primary use, 01:14:59.230 --> 01:15:02.340 so if the primary use is domestic storage. 01:15:02.340 --> 01:15:06.160 LAZARO, VIKKI Office storage, home storage, shed storage, 01:15:06.160 --> 01:15:07.140 anything of that nature. 01:15:07.140 --> 01:15:12.150 LAZARO, VIKKI It would not be in heading 4202 and it's absolutely normal 01:15:12.150 --> 01:15:17.340 and acceptable for a box to have some convenience handles 01:15:18.420 --> 01:15:21.000 to maybe move it to another room or something like that. 01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:23.470 So we're really looking at the the intended use 01:15:23.470 --> 01:15:28.520 if the intended use is domestic storage rather than transporting the contents, 01:15:28.520 --> 01:15:31.010 then it would still be excluded from 4202. 01:15:31.010 --> 01:15:32.970 Again, I can't say for sure it would be 63 or 7 01:15:32.970 --> 01:15:35.830 because that's another NIS is heading and I don't know those rules, 01:15:35.830 --> 01:15:38.350 but I can say the fact that you added. 01:15:38.350 --> 01:15:39.940 LAZARO, VIKKI Handles to something. 01:15:39.940 --> 01:15:43.150 LAZARO, VIKKI Doesn't change the classification, just like we said 01:15:43.150 --> 01:15:47.650 with the the wristlets, the handbags, wallets that strap versus strap, 01:15:47.650 --> 01:15:51.310 we're looking at the use not not whether or not maybe has a handle. 01:15:51.310 --> 01:15:53.700 LAZARO, VIKKI So I hope that was helpful. 01:15:53.700 --> 01:15:57.210 LAZARO, VIKKI Umm any other questions that I need to answer? 01:15:59.967 --> 01:16:01.350 LAZARO, VIKKI We see maybe one more hand. 01:16:01.350 --> 01:16:02.530 I'm not sure if it was somebody that. 01:16:02.530 --> 01:16:04.520 LAZARO, VIKKI Already was answered. 01:16:07.367 --> 01:16:10.220 LAZARO, VIKKI Any more questions you can raise your hand or ginnies, 01:16:10.220 --> 01:16:11.150 uh, monitoring the chat box. 01:16:11.150 --> 01:16:12.110 KIM, JINHEE Miss Heather. 01:16:12.110 --> 01:16:14.740 KIM, JINHEE Miss Heather, you cannot question your mic is on. 01:16:14.740 --> 01:16:15.670 Simpson Kong, Heather L. Yep. 01:16:15.670 --> 01:16:16.360 Simpson Kong, Heather L. Thank you. 01:16:16.360 --> 01:16:17.050 Hi, Vicky. 01:16:17.050 --> 01:16:20.290 We really love your webinars and we sing your space song all the time. 01:16:20.290 --> 01:16:21.100 LAZARO, VIKKI Ohh, good, good, good. 01:16:21.100 --> 01:16:24.780 Simpson Kong, Heather L. We have a we we are back and forth on. 01:16:24.780 --> 01:16:28.440 Simpson Kong, Heather L. Earbud holders of molded silicone. 01:16:28.440 --> 01:16:30.530 LAZARO, VIKKI Ohk OK. 01:16:30.530 --> 01:16:32.520 Simpson Kong, Heather L. By application 01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:37.400 I mean we are after the semi colon and molded silicone isn't a named. 01:16:37.400 --> 01:16:38.570 Simpson Kong, Heather L. Uh. 01:16:38.570 --> 01:16:40.060 Material. 01:16:40.060 --> 01:16:44.200 So we're looking, we're like 30, it's at 39 or we are at 4202 ninety nine. 01:16:44.200 --> 01:16:44.990 LAZARO, VIKKI OK. 01:16:44.990 --> 01:16:46.450 Well, let's back up a second. 01:16:46.450 --> 01:16:48.460 So silicone is molded plastic. 01:16:48.460 --> 01:16:51.980 LAZARO, VIKKI If it is truly silicone and there's nothing covering it. 01:16:53.367 --> 01:16:54.370 LAZARO, VIKKI Umm. 01:16:54.370 --> 01:16:59.570 LAZARO, VIKKI OK, but so here's my question for you. 01:16:59.570 --> 01:17:05.480 Is it fitted for the eye buds or is it just like a generic pouch 01:17:05.480 --> 01:17:08.350 of molded plastic that just happens to be small? 01:17:08.350 --> 01:17:10.500 Simpson Kong, Heather L. We would have 01:17:10.500 --> 01:17:11.860 to look inside an answer that question. 01:17:11.860 --> 01:17:12.930 LAZARO, VIKKI Yeah. 01:17:12.930 --> 01:17:17.500 So that's what you're looking for, because in addition to the named items 01:17:17.500 --> 01:17:21.765 in the first half of the heading, don't forget fitted containers 01:17:21.773 --> 01:17:26.850 are also you know there's the and this webinar wasn't specifically 01:17:26.850 --> 01:17:28.164 on on this issue. 01:17:28.178 --> 01:17:31.419 We can't cover everything in every hour but fitted containers. 01:17:33.033 --> 01:17:36.910 LAZARO, VIKKI Are if it's fitted for something specific, it could also be 01:17:36.910 --> 01:17:40.650 in the first half of the heading, so if it's fitted for the year buds, 01:17:40.650 --> 01:17:43.380 I would say 4202. 01:17:43.380 --> 01:17:45.830 If it's silicone with something over it, 01:17:45.830 --> 01:17:48.560 you might wanna take another closer look, but if it's just 01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:50.850 sort of a generic silicone. 01:17:50.850 --> 01:17:51.820 Simpson Kong, Heather L. OK. 01:17:54.967 --> 01:17:57.580 LAZARO, VIKKI Pouch I guess like I don't like pouch doesn't feel like 01:17:57.580 --> 01:17:58.030 the right word. 01:17:58.030 --> 01:17:59.380 But you know what I mean. 01:17:59.380 --> 01:18:02.890 It's just a generic silicone molded plastic container and it's not fitted. 01:18:02.890 --> 01:18:03.910 Then it probably is excluded. 01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:05.680 Simpson Kong, Heather L. OK. 01:18:05.680 --> 01:18:06.150 Thank you. 01:18:06.150 --> 01:18:07.233 LAZARO, VIKKI You're welcome. 01:18:08.567 --> 01:18:11.380 LAZARO, VIKKI OK guys, I see something in the chat box. 01:18:11.380 --> 01:18:14.000 Is that a new question or is that the one I just answered? 01:18:20.625 --> 01:18:22.530 LAZARO, VIKKI Nothing. 01:18:22.530 --> 01:18:23.760 LAZARO, VIKKI Going once on questions. 01:18:25.100 --> 01:18:26.527 LAZARO, VIKKI Going twice. 01:18:29.033 --> 01:18:30.560 LAZARO, VIKKI Umm jinhee, should we? 01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:31.040 We should we. 01:18:31.040 --> 01:18:33.705 Should we be bold and try to pull up this the slide 01:18:33.706 --> 01:18:35.140 with our information on it. 01:18:35.140 --> 01:18:38.440 LAZARO, VIKKI Or you know what's in here, 01:18:38.440 --> 01:18:41.610 if you could just put my email address in your in your email address 01:18:41.610 --> 01:18:43.610 in the chat box, that might be better. 01:18:43.610 --> 01:18:46.590 So I'm gonna just put my email address where you can reach me 01:18:46.590 --> 01:18:50.620 in the chat box, and then my associate, Jenny Kim is excellent. 01:18:50.620 --> 01:18:51.910 If you have any questions on. 01:18:51.910 --> 01:18:56.720 LAZARO, VIKKI Really, anything related to is did we receive your sample 01:18:56.720 --> 01:18:58.400 or any of that kind of organizational stuff? 01:18:58.400 --> 01:18:59.680 She's amazing for that. 01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:03.360 So she's gonna put that her email address and my email. 01:19:03.360 --> 01:19:05.350 And that's basically what my last slides 01:19:05.350 --> 01:19:07.370 where we're just our contact information. 01:19:07.370 --> 01:19:09.490 So we're gonna put that in the chat box instead of fighting 01:19:09.490 --> 01:19:10.230 with the slides again. 01:19:10.230 --> 01:19:14.750 LAZARO, VIKKI And then, unless there's any more questions, 01:19:14.750 --> 01:19:18.150 that's it for me guys, I hope that was helpful. 01:19:18.150 --> 01:19:20.060 Sorry for the technical issues. 01:19:20.060 --> 01:19:21.520 I'm so sorry. 01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:23.710 You know, whatever can go wrong will go wrong. 01:19:23.710 --> 01:19:25.340 It's just kind of the law of the universe. 01:19:25.340 --> 01:19:26.730 I don't know why. 01:19:26.730 --> 01:19:28.510 LAZARO, VIKKI But that's it. 01:19:28.510 --> 01:19:29.721 So. 01:19:31.367 --> 01:19:33.030 LAZARO, VIKKI Let us know if you need anything. 01:19:33.030 --> 01:19:35.280 We're happy to, you know, answer your rulings as well. 01:19:35.280 --> 01:19:39.360 LAZARO, VIKKI And if not, we'll see you next year in the next webinar. 01:19:41.433 --> 01:19:43.650 LAZARO, VIKKI Thank you so much guys. 01:19:43.650 --> 01:19:44.780 You're so welcome, Cheryl. 01:19:44.780 --> 01:19:47.770 LAZARO, VIKKI Cheryl, sorry if I pronounce your name wrong.