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afternoon. I am Chrissi Guth with CBP's

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Office of Trade relations. Today's webinar

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is on combating Fentanyl and other

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synthetic drugs. Please be mindful that

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you will be on mute during the

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presentation, therefore we ask that you

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completion code. It will be provided

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several times throughout the webinar. Now

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I would like to pass it over to acting

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branch chief George Rudy.

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>>> Good hi, everybody.

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I'm very thankful that you're able to make

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our presentation today.

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As Chrissi said, I'm George Rudy, acting

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branch chief within CBP headquarters,

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CTPAT, in Washington, D.C.

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Thank you all for attending this briefing.

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I work on various other projects within

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CTPAT, cargo conveyance security, such as

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aqua lane, exporter activities and other

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trade facilitation-type efforts regarding

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cargo.

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And the Fentanyl issue is another one of

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these initiatives that -- that I'm

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spearheading in cargo and conveyance

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security.

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And one of CBP's priorities is stopping

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Fentanyl smuggling and CBP is a primary

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driver for the U.S. Government to disrupt

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the Fentanyl smuggling problem.

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The goal of this briefing is an awareness

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of the Fentanyl threat, specific to the

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threat on cargo.

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Hopefully you will get some knowledge from

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CBP that will make a lasting impression to

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you all so you co-educate your staff who

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occupy and run the U.S. international

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supply chains.

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With me I'd like to introduce my colleague

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Michael Smith.

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Mike.

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>> MICHAEL SMITH: Again, I'm Michael

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Smith, I'm a supervisor with the JFK New

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York CTPAT field office.

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Been with CBP about 25 years now.

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Really appreciate, like George said, you

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joining us today for this briefing.

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It's a very important public safety,

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public health, and national security.

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Thank you for your time today.

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>> Thanks, Mike.

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The goal of this PowerPoint presentation.

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It's a show and tell, an awareness of the

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Fentanyl cargo.

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We'll will have photos, Fentanyl smuggle,

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just photos and images.

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So if you could, I'm not sure if Chrissi

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mentioned it or not, but save the

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questions till the end, otherwise we won't

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finish on time.

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So feel free to take pictures or

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screenshots so you can develop your own

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Fentanyl training sessions.

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For those of you who are in the CTPAT

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program, in the portals document it's just

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called the public library now in portal 3,

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but we have some photos that -- like this,

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that you'll have available so you could

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create your own training sessions

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regarding the threat of Fentanyl in the

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international supply chain.

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So I think that's all we've got, right?

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Anything I'm missing, Mike?

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>> We're good to go.

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>> So let's --

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>> Thanks.

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Let's jump into the presentation on CBP

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combating Fentanyl smuggling and other

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synthetic drug smuggling.

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So let's see if I can get this is going.

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So the contents that we'll begin the

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presentation on is the discussion of the

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Fentanyl threat, some of the origins of

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Fentanyl, and precursor chemicals that are

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Mike will review that.

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Some smuggling methods that CBP has

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identified with some really nice photos.

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What actions CBP has taken there you

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special operations throughout the United

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Your roles as stakeholders, because you

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all create the international supply chains

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for the cargo that enters and exits the

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United States.

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And then we'll talk about some of the best

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practices that really are part of the

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trade --

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customs trade partnership against

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terrorism or CTPAT, and the minimum

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trade and customs have developed for those

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of you who are not in CTPAT that really

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work to help cut down on some of the

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supply chain smuggling problems that we're

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concerns that we have with Fentanyl and

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the handling of those narcotics.

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Okay, so let's start off --

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this is what the Fentanyl threat looks

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like, what CBP is experiencing as our

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Customs and Border Patrol officers are

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seizing.

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This is over 3,000 pounds of Fentanyl,

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meth, and heroin at one of our point of

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colors, and sizes and different forms, but

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in this case it's typically in a break,

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large volume form.

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seizure of over 24,500 kilograms of meth,

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the same individual that was arrested was

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a middleman that was involved in the just

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the coordination and brokering of these

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precursor chemicals coming into the United

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precursor chemicals that create Fentanyl.

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So those images are extremely significant

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when you look at this image to the left

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that a small percentage, 2 milligrams of

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size of a penny, you could understand why

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those first two slides are very disturbing

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this amount or it might have double that

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amount because chemists might not be

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making these illegally smuggled Fentanyl

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pills, so that is of great concern.

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And this is why over 150 people die each

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and every day to overdosing from Fentanyl

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and other synthetic opioids like Fentanyl.

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Fentanyl is a major contributor to the

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fatalities in the United States and to

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compound that, the nonfatal overdoses

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throughout this presentation.

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hydrocodone, morphine, and many others.

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illegally smuggled heroin.

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medications or the narcotics are

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chemically composed substance.

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to that image, it's 50 times stronger than

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the prescribed drug that mimic the effect

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of the original drug.

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it very strong, stronger than it was

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originally which makes these drugs

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cheaper, more powerful, and more addictive

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that they're trying to make the appearance

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of these Fentanyl as if they're taking the

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party drug oxy.

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Some of the definitions, again, that you

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should know are precursor chemical or

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solvent that's used to make a controlled

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substance and the DEA or drug enforcement

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administration breaks it down into list

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one and list two categories.

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list is the -- describes the solvents.

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The pill press machine, it's inherit in

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the name, the definition.

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powder and compresses this powder under

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extreme pressure to make blue Fentanyl

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So right here U.S. customs CBP, we are the

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largest law enforcement agency in the

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United States. We are uniquely positioned

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positioned to seize these chemicals, these

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precursor, the pill press parts, the pill

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press machines. Right here this picture is

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a seizure along the southern border.

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We know that smuggling Fentanyl is very

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prevalent on this border.

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So what is our strategy?

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seize before these products even enter the

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supply chain in the United States.

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We have limited resources, that's why we

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partner with the public and private sector

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stakeholders like yourselves today to try

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to keep the supply chain as safe and

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secure as possible.

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CTPAT and its 11,000 plus members, we are

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the main partnership program in CBP, we've

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always been a supply chain program, and we

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ask you to educate your members on this

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opioid threat, be aware and learn what you

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can do to help us in this fight.

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Today, me and George are going to educate

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you as best as possible in this hour and

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we ask for your feedback from your

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specific supply chains what you've

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encountered, that way we can try to work

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on this problem in true partnership

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So the origins of Fentanyl.

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was limited to China at first. We now know

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that the smugglers that are south of

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border, they have the greatest direct

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impact on the United States' Fentanyl

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market because they have an increased

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capacity to produce Fentanyl.

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They're able to adapt to the restrictions

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that we put on the precursor chemicals,

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and they already have an existing drug

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infrastructure into the United States that

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they're just going to keep using for

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These smugglers are going to still

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primarily source right now from China.

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They'll make purchases on the open market.

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They're going to smuggle opioids and

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chemicals that are hidden in legitimate

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commercial shipments is why we want to

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talk to you today. They will mislabel

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these shipments to avoid controls and the

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attention of law enforcement.

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They're also going to divert shipments

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that are actually heading to legitimate

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chemical and pharmaceutical industries.

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Right there on the bottom you'll see one

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of our many challenges. These precursor

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chemicals, a lot of them are legal and

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legitimate to import and export.

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On top of this, the legal controls on

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these precursors, they will vary from

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country to country, so if you see a law

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enforcement seizure, it includes many

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chemicals usually that are actually

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uncontrolled in other countries such as

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China and Mexico.

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This slide right here is going to show you

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that this epidemic is getting

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substantially worse year to year.

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If you look at the CBP statistics on

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seizures, an an unacceptable 850%

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increase.

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You'll see over 27,000 pounds seized in

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2023. On top of that, it's actually

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estimated that four times what we seize is

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being trafficked into the United States.

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It's coming through the southwest border.

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It's coming also through the mail, through

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ECC express consignment shipments.

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But by far, the most volume right now is

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coming over the southwest border.

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And we want to make our trade partners

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aware today that they are using trucks and

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trailers as one of the modes of transport

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to smuggle these opioids.

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So right here, you're going to see that

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it's typically sold in powder form.

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It's going to mimic prescription

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medications.

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And that picture right there is going to

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show you the little amount that's needed

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for an overdose, just like the penny that

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George showed you in the previous

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pictures, that small amount can be a

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deadly overdose.

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On top of that, you cannot taste it, you

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cannot smell it.

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That's why when people buy oxycodone,

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Oxycontin on the black market, they don't

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know it's been coated with Fentanyl.

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85% are in pill form, 15% powder, so that

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hasn't changed in the last two years or

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so.

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Okay, George.

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Right there, please take note of that

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middle picture circled in red.

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That is the main ones we are finding

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today, CBP is seizing that.

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It's the blue fake Oxycontin and stamped

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with an M on one side, stamped with a 30

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on the other side for 30 milligrams.

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Basically it demonstrates that the

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traffickers are taking advantage of an

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already established market for these oxy

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codone pills and they're going to add a

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small amount of cheaply-sourced Fentanyl.

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Around that picture, you'll see some other

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ones, the colorful ones, rainbow Fentanyl

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they call it. We still seize that, but by

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far the most we're getting right now are

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the blue ones circled in the middle.

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They're referred to on the street

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sometimes as M-30s.

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>> Thanks, Mike.

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So right now I'll talk about some of the

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smuggling methods that are being used.

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One that has been identified by CBP is

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called master cart in smuggling.

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If you look at the image to the right,

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there's a very basic example of what CBP

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is experiencing at the mail facilities.

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So you'll see a medium-size box.

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It's got three smaller boxes on the inside

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of it.

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Those three boxes have arrived in the

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United States with preprinted labels, and

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once they're opened in the U.S.

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third-party logistics providers or

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warehouse distribution center, they are

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opened up and put immediately in the U.S.

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mail or by carrier service and it goes

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directly to the customer.

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A lot of these preprinted domestic boxes

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are coming in with a falsely declared

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amount under $800 to take advantage of

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trying to get underneath CBP's radar by

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being considered deminimus exemption

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amount so it attracts less attention to

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those boxes coming in.

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Here's another image of what is closer to

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the reality of what CBP officers are

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experiencing of what's coming in.

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And you can see this is more of a problem

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in a real had world scenario, you've got

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many more boxes and packed with smaller

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packages on the interior that were not

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getting great descriptions on what's being

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pushed on the insides of these larger

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boxes.

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We continue on, you'll see that in this

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example it's an overwhelming amount of

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packages coming in, and each one is going

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to a different address.

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Small amounts of Fentanyl, but if you

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remember, the first few slides -- Slide 3

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that we demonstrated, only 3 -- 2

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milligrams is enough to cause a fatality

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in the U.S.

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So this is the meat of the problem that

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CBP is experiencing and the United States.

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And if you're very observant, you could

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look at the larger boxes in the background

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that are still on pallets that have yet to

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be opened.

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So you can imagine what CBP's job is

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looking like at the moment when staffing

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and resources of personnel to open each

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and every package and conduct an incident

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report and a seizure.

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So it could get very involved tying up our

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Human Resources.

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Coming back to what Mike was saying about

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express consignment carriers are

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transporting these goods directly because

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they're preprinted with the labels on

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them.

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But CBP lacks the true visibility of the

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parties to these transactions and it is a

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requirement and that's why I'm just going

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to cite this next line that explains a

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failing to manifest the packages at the

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lowest external packaging unit.

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It's a violation, even if there are not

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narcotics or contraband, in this case

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Fentanyl, inside those inner packages.

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In other words, every package needs a

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description, even if it's inside a larger

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package.

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So we're just putting that out there

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because we need your assistance if you

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encounter based on what business type you

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are.

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I know we've got importers, exporters,

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brokers, we've got every type of business

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partner or business model on this call.

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Just be aware of the fact that if you

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receive very vague descriptions, it's

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something that you might want to put on

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the do not load list or maybe call it to

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our attention.

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You'll see soon that we'll have some of

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those methods that you'll be able to

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contact CBP if something suspicious comes

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your way.

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To the right in that image, another

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instance where this is one single master

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airway bill, and huge numbers of boxes,

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palletized and wrapped and they all need

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to be examined.

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Cause as I -- a big human resource issue

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for CBP. Especially if we're getting vague

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descriptions such as keyboard or dog food

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or wallpaper in some of these instances

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we'll get from 800 to 25,000 packages that

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are manifested also as consolidate or

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console.

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Some of the parts that you'll be seeing in

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a little bit that are part of the pill

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pressed machinery they'll call the

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punches, instead of calling them punches,

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they'll call them steel parts.

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Very vague, trying to elude detection or

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further scrutiny.

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Okay.

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So how do we counter master carton

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smuggling?

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If you're a business that's currently

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still in business and has been doing

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successful importations or exportations,

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you're probably already doing these.

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Weight checks, examining the size and

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shape of a box or shipment to look if the

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description's on the shipping

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documentation.

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Makes sense if we're using common sense

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here, that if the description says

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feathers and it weighs 400 pounds, we have

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a problem.

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Or if it's a smaller package and it says a

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different weight description, so then

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that's a red flag, right?

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So conducting piece counts against the

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shipping documentation, knowing also what

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is legal to ship from abroad and enter

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into the United States.

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So if you're an importer or a broker and

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if you're handling these shipments of --

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for example, a chemical shipment, we

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should know what can legally be imported

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on exported from, for example, from China.

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Are these chemicals legally exported from

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those countries?

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And that's where we should obtain a list,

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which we'll see in a little bit on the

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next couple slides, of a country list

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explaining which chemicals can be legally

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exported, which are regulated, and which

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are not.

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The same thing goes for the United States.

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We've got a regulated chemicals list that

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also tells you what the ingredients for

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Fentanyl is and if you encounter that,

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maybe a red flag should come up and you

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should check your documentation to make

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sure that they have the proper documents

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needed to import these precursor chemicals

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into the United States.

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And always remember, I know a lot of

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companies on this call spend huge amounts

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of funds, budget specific to the marketing

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of your goods and your company, whatever

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it is.

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The worst thing that could happen to you

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is a reputational damage. So all that

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money that you spend on your marketing

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efforts really goes away.

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Then you have to try and recoup from that

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reputational damage as being a drug

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smuggler or worse if somebody gets harmed,

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right?

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So the purpose of this call is awareness

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and to remind everybody on the call that

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trying to recover from an incident is very

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difficult and takes years to do so.

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On top of that, you have an obligation to

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your country, your friends, your family to

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safeguard the cargo that you're importing

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and exporting and handling within the

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United States.

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Here's a snap shot of regulated chemicals

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list I was talking about.

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This is open access.

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It's on the Internet.

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You can easily obtain it.

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And if you see the outline of the green

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rectangular box, I've highlighted the

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regulated chemicals for Fentanyl and the

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analogs.

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And if you look across the left on this

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matrix, you'll see the regulated chemicals

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pointed out and the red triangles are

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dissecting into that -- or pinpointing

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what that -- those chemicals are.

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And here's the country regulated chemicals

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list I was talking about.

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We've got -- I highlighted Canada,

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Mexico -- I didn't highlight that one --

547
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but you've got China and India and then

548
00:24:49.714 --> 00:24:52.689
you can put whatever other countries that

549
00:24:52.692 --> 00:24:55.242
you might be handling within your

550
00:24:55.243 --> 00:24:57.243
international supply chain.

551
00:24:57.243 --> 00:24:59.518
So this is something that you would do

552
00:25:00.126 --> 00:25:02.746
trying to map out your supply chains.

553
00:25:02.750 --> 00:25:05.932
And then just have it available for

554
00:25:05.933 --> 00:25:08.662
whoever's in charge of handling the

555
00:25:08.664 --> 00:25:11.394
documentation to make sure that you're

556
00:25:11.394 --> 00:25:14.124
doing something that's by the book,

557
00:25:14.125 --> 00:25:16.125
importing or exporting.

558
00:25:16.125 --> 00:25:18.125
And language.

559
00:25:18.125 --> 00:25:20.939
So here's a country regulated chemicals

560
00:25:20.939 --> 00:25:22.939
list. I believe this one's from Mexico.

561
00:25:22.939 --> 00:25:25.403
But notice it's in Spanish. So if you're

562
00:25:25.729 --> 00:25:28.063
receiving cargo or handling cargo requests

563
00:25:28.065 --> 00:25:30.399
and you're -- and you receive this

564
00:25:30.401 --> 00:25:32.735
document in another language maybe that

565
00:25:32.737 --> 00:25:35.460
you're not familiar with, it could very

566
00:25:35.462 --> 00:25:38.185
well be in Mandarin or some other

567
00:25:38.187 --> 00:25:40.910
language, make sure that you have somebody

568
00:25:40.912 --> 00:25:42.912
that's interpreting these documents and

569
00:25:42.912 --> 00:25:45.969
not just receiving them and have no idea

570
00:25:45.973 --> 00:25:47.973
what they're saying.

571
00:25:48.430 --> 00:25:50.813
So just wanted to point that out, that

572
00:25:51.642 --> 00:25:53.648
yes, we're looking for documented

573
00:25:53.651 --> 00:25:56.459
chemicals regulated list from the point of

574
00:25:56.461 --> 00:25:59.275
origin to make sure that they could

575
00:25:59.276 --> 00:26:01.683
legally leave those countries and enter

576
00:26:01.683 --> 00:26:05.290
the U.S. But you have to do a thorough

577
00:26:05.295 --> 00:26:07.703
check and understanding check, checks and

578
00:26:07.704 --> 00:26:09.703
balances on that level.

579
00:26:09.703 --> 00:26:11.703
Okay, Mike.

580
00:26:11.703 --> 00:26:13.703
>> Thanks, George.

581
00:26:13.703 --> 00:26:16.610
So under Title XXI CBP does have the legal

582
00:26:16.613 --> 00:26:18.933
authority to seize these precursor

583
00:26:18.935 --> 00:26:20.935
chemicals.

584
00:26:20.935 --> 00:26:25.114
The caveat is that we first have to prove

585
00:26:25.117 --> 00:26:29.562
that the precursor chemicals have end use

586
00:26:29.565 --> 00:26:32.740
intentions to make this legal.

587
00:26:32.742 --> 00:26:34.742
CBP does have a national targeting center.

588
00:26:34.742 --> 00:26:36.741
We target these precursors that are

589
00:26:36.741 --> 00:26:38.741
actually sometimes shipped through the

590
00:26:38.741 --> 00:26:40.741
United States and into Mexico.

591
00:26:40.741 --> 00:26:43.450
We know that they will possibly be used to

592
00:26:43.450 --> 00:26:45.450
produce Fentanyl, end up being trafficked

593
00:26:45.450 --> 00:26:47.450
back over the border and end up in our

594
00:26:47.450 --> 00:26:49.450
communities or our streets.

595
00:26:49.450 --> 00:26:51.486
Again, many of these precursor chemicals

596
00:26:52.305 --> 00:26:57.519
you're going to hear the same things

597
00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:01.988
through this PowerPoint is many are

598
00:27:01.989 --> 00:27:05.714
nonregulate and have legitimate uses.

599
00:27:05.714 --> 00:27:07.714
You always hear about the layered

600
00:27:07.714 --> 00:27:09.713
strategy.

601
00:27:09.713 --> 00:27:12.745
Right here this slide will show you some

602
00:27:12.745 --> 00:27:14.745
of the operations we have to combat these

603
00:27:14.745 --> 00:27:16.745
opioids through targeted operations.

604
00:27:16.745 --> 00:27:18.745
This shows you four operations that we had

605
00:27:18.745 --> 00:27:20.745
in 2023 as well as the resulting seizures

606
00:27:20.745 --> 00:27:22.745
from those operations.

607
00:27:22.745 --> 00:27:24.745
These are multiagency efforts at the

608
00:27:24.745 --> 00:27:26.745
southwest border points of entry. They

609
00:27:26.745 --> 00:27:29.155
include CBP officers. They work alongside

610
00:27:29.156 --> 00:27:31.519
our Homeland Security specific agents.

611
00:27:31.520 --> 00:27:34.580
As a side note, in the last two years CBP

612
00:27:34.580 --> 00:27:37.018
has seized more Fentanyl than it did in

613
00:27:37.022 --> 00:27:39.162
the previous five years combined, so these

614
00:27:39.163 --> 00:27:41.163
operations successful when we run with

615
00:27:41.163 --> 00:27:43.163
them.

616
00:27:43.163 --> 00:27:45.327
CBP also has targeted the inbound air

617
00:27:45.327 --> 00:27:47.327
shipment inspections, right?

618
00:27:47.327 --> 00:27:52.913
We target the supply chain through the aft

619
00:27:52.913 --> 00:27:54.913
cargo.

620
00:27:54.913 --> 00:27:57.675
Also, the environments to intercept the

621
00:27:57.675 --> 00:27:59.675
precursor chemicals and sometimes the

622
00:27:59.675 --> 00:28:01.675
machine parts also.

623
00:28:01.675 --> 00:28:03.675
And we also target the outbound flow of

624
00:28:03.675 --> 00:28:05.675
illicit proceeds, mainly meaning money

625
00:28:05.675 --> 00:28:07.675
that is going outbound.

626
00:28:07.675 --> 00:28:09.675
But also any precursors, any pill press,

627
00:28:09.675 --> 00:28:11.838
any parts that are going into Mexico we

628
00:28:11.838 --> 00:28:13.838
also target.

629
00:28:13.838 --> 00:28:16.483
Okay, George.

630
00:28:16.486 --> 00:28:20.438
So what can be done on your part?

631
00:28:20.438 --> 00:28:23.469
Well, the first part there, conduct an

632
00:28:23.472 --> 00:28:25.641
international risk assessment of your

633
00:28:25.647 --> 00:28:27.647
supply chain.

634
00:28:27.647 --> 00:28:29.918
This is something if you're in the CTPAT

635
00:28:29.918 --> 00:28:31.918
program that you've already been doing for

636
00:28:31.918 --> 00:28:33.918
years.

637
00:28:33.918 --> 00:28:35.918
We want you to map out the supply chain,

638
00:28:35.918 --> 00:28:37.918
see where there may be a security risk of

639
00:28:37.918 --> 00:28:39.918
opioid smuggling.

640
00:28:39.918 --> 00:28:41.918
Right now we've mentioned these countries

641
00:28:41.918 --> 00:28:43.918
a little bit.

642
00:28:43.918 --> 00:28:45.918
Our intel tells us it's Mexico and China

643
00:28:45.918 --> 00:28:47.918
and India for the chemicals especially.

644
00:28:47.918 --> 00:28:49.918
That would be some of the main ones that

645
00:28:49.918 --> 00:28:51.918
you would want to drill down on.

646
00:28:51.918 --> 00:28:53.918
There is a great PowerPoint downloaded

647
00:28:53.918 --> 00:28:55.918
into our portal.

648
00:28:55.918 --> 00:28:58.403
If you're in CTPAT, send me an email and

649
00:28:58.403 --> 00:29:00.626
I'll point it out to you on how do a risk

650
00:29:00.627 --> 00:29:02.857
assessment if you're not familiar with it.

651
00:29:02.859 --> 00:29:07.039
Number 2, follow CBP's counter synthetic

652
00:29:07.041 --> 00:29:09.131
drugs campaign guidance.

653
00:29:09.132 --> 00:29:11.132
Number 3, utilize the supply chain best

654
00:29:11.132 --> 00:29:13.132
practices that we have in CTPAT. We're

655
00:29:13.132 --> 00:29:15.169
going to go over that on the last slide,

656
00:29:15.171 --> 00:29:17.798
but at this point I like to say in general

657
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:19.799
what is the pest practice.

658
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:22.148
Best practice is going to have senior

659
00:29:22.148 --> 00:29:24.148
management support, it's going to have

660
00:29:24.148 --> 00:29:26.148
automation and technology to improve the

661
00:29:26.148 --> 00:29:28.148
effectiveness of it.

662
00:29:28.148 --> 00:29:30.327
It's going to be a documented process to

663
00:29:30.327 --> 00:29:32.327
ensure its consistency. It's also going to

664
00:29:32.327 --> 00:29:34.327
have a system of checks and balances.

665
00:29:34.327 --> 00:29:37.703
And above all, it's going to have

666
00:29:37.740 --> 00:29:40.208
corrective action plans and follow-up

667
00:29:40.209 --> 00:29:42.210
monitoring.

668
00:29:42.210 --> 00:29:44.210
Those things mentioned is what makes up a

669
00:29:44.210 --> 00:29:46.209
best practice, but we'll talk about that

670
00:29:46.209 --> 00:29:48.209
more.

671
00:29:48.209 --> 00:29:50.463
Okay, George.

672
00:29:50.463 --> 00:29:52.463
So right here what I was speaking of,

673
00:29:52.463 --> 00:29:54.463
CBP's counter synthetic campaign. We have

674
00:29:54.463 --> 00:29:56.463
listed ways that you can recognize these

675
00:29:56.463 --> 00:29:58.463
potential illicit materials and how you

676
00:29:58.463 --> 00:30:01.262
can help us. We ask that you identify and

677
00:30:01.722 --> 00:30:04.618
report early signs that may indicate a

678
00:30:04.619 --> 00:30:06.688
potential movement of these chemicals,

679
00:30:06.689 --> 00:30:09.171
these binding agents, the pill presses,

680
00:30:09.172 --> 00:30:11.651
the parts used in synthetic opioid

681
00:30:11.652 --> 00:30:13.650
production.

682
00:30:13.650 --> 00:30:16.195
Early reporting giving CBP a better chance

683
00:30:16.195 --> 00:30:18.195
at interdiction, so please report as early

684
00:30:18.195 --> 00:30:20.195
as possible.

685
00:30:20.195 --> 00:30:22.195
Again, George spoke about this earlier.

686
00:30:22.195 --> 00:30:24.195
The individual package information that's

687
00:30:24.195 --> 00:30:26.195
contained within the master cartons,

688
00:30:26.195 --> 00:30:28.195
extremely important point today.

689
00:30:28.195 --> 00:30:30.195
We ask that you recognize any incomplete

690
00:30:30.195 --> 00:30:32.195
or inaccurate data transmissions, take the

691
00:30:32.195 --> 00:30:34.195
corrective actions and report it if

692
00:30:34.195 --> 00:30:36.195
suspicious.

693
00:30:36.195 --> 00:30:38.195
Please be aware that the bad actors, they

694
00:30:38.195 --> 00:30:41.043
are going to utilize the air cargo

695
00:30:41.370 --> 00:30:44.364
environment, they are going to commingle

696
00:30:44.367 --> 00:30:47.361
these via master carton smuggling tactics,

697
00:30:47.363 --> 00:30:50.856
but they're going to use the third-party

698
00:30:50.860 --> 00:30:52.860
routing.

699
00:30:52.860 --> 00:30:54.860
So please be aware.

700
00:30:54.860 --> 00:30:57.533
We ask you to report labels mismanifested,

701
00:30:57.535 --> 00:31:01.687
mislabeled based on size and shape

702
00:31:01.690 --> 00:31:03.690
discrepancies.

703
00:31:03.690 --> 00:31:06.243
And email there, if you want to take a

704
00:31:06.243 --> 00:31:09.237
picture of that email, we under the

705
00:31:09.241 --> 00:31:11.812
process of also adding another email

706
00:31:11.814 --> 00:31:15.246
that's going to be CTPAT specific just for

707
00:31:15.246 --> 00:31:17.382
these precursor chemicals and Fentanyl.

708
00:31:17.388 --> 00:31:20.315
You could also take out your camera phone

709
00:31:20.315 --> 00:31:23.232
right now and hover over that picture on

710
00:31:23.236 --> 00:31:26.160
bottom right. That's going to take you to

711
00:31:26.161 --> 00:31:28.161
the cbp.gov/Fentanyl website.

712
00:31:28.161 --> 00:31:30.522
If you are doing your own training

713
00:31:30.522 --> 00:31:32.522
in-house, this is a great page that could

714
00:31:32.522 --> 00:31:34.824
give you some ideas on what training you

715
00:31:35.025 --> 00:31:37.388
could do, some more resources for you.

716
00:31:37.388 --> 00:31:40.850
Okay, George.

717
00:31:40.851 --> 00:31:42.851
>> Okay, Mike.

718
00:31:42.851 --> 00:31:45.285
Now to the stakeholder roles.

719
00:31:45.285 --> 00:31:48.583
Here's kind of what Mike was discussing of

720
00:31:49.202 --> 00:31:52.603
a tractor trailer with Fentanyl found

721
00:31:52.603 --> 00:31:56.004
inside the contents of these boxes.

722
00:31:56.005 --> 00:32:00.541
So no one's really exempt from the

723
00:32:00.541 --> 00:32:02.541
Fentanyl smuggling efforts.

724
00:32:02.541 --> 00:32:04.541
Company actions.

725
00:32:04.541 --> 00:32:07.260
So what are we doing as companies?

726
00:32:07.260 --> 00:32:09.350
Physical exams, we x-ray the cargo in some

727
00:32:10.406 --> 00:32:14.088
instances, and then if we see something

728
00:32:14.089 --> 00:32:18.296
unusual, then you're going to do not load

729
00:32:18.296 --> 00:32:22.503
and contact CBP if there's any instance of

730
00:32:22.504 --> 00:32:25.658
threatening aspects, which does take place

731
00:32:25.659 --> 00:32:30.390
also. So we'll get into that a little bit

732
00:32:30.391 --> 00:32:32.391
later.

733
00:32:32.391 --> 00:32:34.467
But our purpose here is training on the

734
00:32:34.471 --> 00:32:37.135
identification of Fentanyl and the pill

735
00:32:37.139 --> 00:32:40.691
making machines such as the ones to the

736
00:32:40.695 --> 00:32:42.695
right.

737
00:32:42.695 --> 00:32:44.737
The very first one you'll notice is

738
00:32:44.740 --> 00:32:48.852
covered in some type of a residue, right.

739
00:32:48.855 --> 00:32:53.400
So in this case, we're going to just be

740
00:32:53.403 --> 00:32:56.938
aware that the main product that we're

741
00:32:56.940 --> 00:32:59.970
seeing, experiencing as Mike as talking

742
00:32:59.972 --> 00:33:03.507
about, is a blue Fentanyl residue or

743
00:33:03.510 --> 00:33:05.510
powder.

744
00:33:05.510 --> 00:33:08.375
The one -- the pill press machine to the

745
00:33:08.375 --> 00:33:12.735
right is brand-new and it's sitting on a

746
00:33:12.735 --> 00:33:16.005
pallet and that's how it's being

747
00:33:16.005 --> 00:33:18.005
transported.

748
00:33:18.005 --> 00:33:20.005
They're both, solid, heavy pieces of

749
00:33:20.005 --> 00:33:22.005
metal.

750
00:33:22.005 --> 00:33:24.054
They'll show up on an x-ray or pallet

751
00:33:24.054 --> 00:33:26.054
x-ray in this case, so two red flags.

752
00:33:26.054 --> 00:33:28.183
Not really a red flag, but two

753
00:33:28.183 --> 00:33:30.318
characteristics of these pill press

754
00:33:30.322 --> 00:33:33.741
machines are they're heavy and if you see

755
00:33:33.742 --> 00:33:36.738
them with the blue Fentanyl powder, those

756
00:33:36.738 --> 00:33:39.727
are tip-offs that they're being used to

757
00:33:39.729 --> 00:33:41.729
make Fentanyl.

758
00:33:41.729 --> 00:33:46.240
So in the case of air cargo businesses,

759
00:33:46.245 --> 00:33:51.194
the -- some of the main priorities of,

760
00:33:51.196 --> 00:33:56.145
course that we're looking for is to

761
00:33:56.148 --> 00:33:59.683
examine cargo based on improvised

762
00:33:59.684 --> 00:34:03.219
explosive devices or IED detection.

763
00:34:03.417 --> 00:34:06.697
But since Fentanyl is also a threat to

764
00:34:06.697 --> 00:34:09.567
human life in America, with overdoses and

765
00:34:09.568 --> 00:34:12.848
deaths, it's -- we just want to make sure

766
00:34:12.848 --> 00:34:15.718
that you don't encounter Fentanyl or pill

767
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:18.999
press machines and then just let it go

768
00:34:18.999 --> 00:34:21.869
down the road or be loaded to --

769
00:34:22.380 --> 00:34:24.964
on a shipment bound for the United States

770
00:34:24.964 --> 00:34:27.548
just because you were not aware of the

771
00:34:27.548 --> 00:34:29.548
fact that this is also happening.

772
00:34:29.548 --> 00:34:32.213
So maintain that priority of IED

773
00:34:32.215 --> 00:34:34.215
detection, improvised explosive devices,

774
00:34:34.215 --> 00:34:37.673
but be aware that these items are deadly

775
00:34:37.674 --> 00:34:41.314
also and need to be taken seriously and

776
00:34:41.314 --> 00:34:43.314
trained to your staff.

777
00:34:43.314 --> 00:34:47.395
And to do so, we've provided photos and

778
00:34:47.395 --> 00:34:51.652
posters, as I was speaking of earlier, of

779
00:34:51.654 --> 00:34:54.316
pill press machinery, precursor chemicals,

780
00:34:54.318 --> 00:34:56.983
and opioid powders and pills.

781
00:34:56.984 --> 00:34:58.984
And here's more of what to look for.

782
00:34:58.984 --> 00:35:00.984
These are different Fentanyl types.

783
00:35:00.984 --> 00:35:09.799
The first one is the liquid vial. Small

784
00:35:09.802 --> 00:35:11.801
vials.

785
00:35:11.801 --> 00:35:14.646
But what CBP is encountering at many ports

786
00:35:14.647 --> 00:35:18.317
of entries, land, air, and sea, is these

787
00:35:18.317 --> 00:35:21.068
M-30 pills as Mike mentioned earlier.

788
00:35:21.070 --> 00:35:24.255
They're blue mimicking oxy. They come in

789
00:35:24.257 --> 00:35:27.442
other types and shapes, just for your

790
00:35:27.444 --> 00:35:30.629
awareness, again, we see the pink, the

791
00:35:30.631 --> 00:35:33.361
rainbow colored, the purple, the white.

792
00:35:33.363 --> 00:35:36.955
But most frequently the M-30 seems to be

793
00:35:36.956 --> 00:35:39.201
the common trend right now.

794
00:35:39.201 --> 00:35:41.201
Here's more of the same.

795
00:35:41.201 --> 00:35:44.803
Some yellow M-30 pills. A huge seizure on

796
00:35:44.806 --> 00:35:49.747
right of bags and bags of the blue M-30

797
00:35:49.750 --> 00:35:53.044
pills. Of course, if they're encountered

798
00:35:53.046 --> 00:35:55.046
you report it.

799
00:35:55.046 --> 00:36:00.210
And this is where Mike and I have recently

800
00:36:00.215 --> 00:36:03.280
heard of seizures regarding marijuana,

801
00:36:03.283 --> 00:36:08.187
which is legal in many states, but it's

802
00:36:08.191 --> 00:36:12.482
also being tainted or laced with Fentanyl.

803
00:36:12.485 --> 00:36:14.877
So that's something to be made aware of

804
00:36:14.881 --> 00:36:16.974
because just for the fact that the

805
00:36:16.977 --> 00:36:19.070
marijuana's legal in many states in the

806
00:36:19.074 --> 00:36:21.167
United States, and it's also a threat.

807
00:36:21.170 --> 00:36:24.656
So if it's being encountered, of course,

808
00:36:24.657 --> 00:36:29.139
legal or not, it has to be taken into

809
00:36:29.141 --> 00:36:31.141
consideration.

810
00:36:31.141 --> 00:36:34.588
Okay, more of what to look for. Now this

811
00:36:34.588 --> 00:36:36.588
is where we get into the machine parts.

812
00:36:36.588 --> 00:36:38.988
More of the pill press machines.

813
00:36:38.989 --> 00:36:41.205
If you look at this first pill press

814
00:36:41.206 --> 00:36:43.422
machine, you can see a little blue residue

815
00:36:43.423 --> 00:36:45.423
on it.

816
00:36:45.423 --> 00:36:48.255
Again, which are is a red flag, telltale

817
00:36:48.255 --> 00:36:50.255
sign if you're shipping a used pill press

818
00:36:50.255 --> 00:36:52.255
machine.

819
00:36:52.255 --> 00:36:54.255
This is what it looks like.

820
00:36:54.255 --> 00:36:56.293
It's got a big hand wheel that looks like

821
00:36:56.293 --> 00:36:58.293
a steering wheel on a car or on a go cart.

822
00:36:58.293 --> 00:37:00.293
In this case it's red and silver.

823
00:37:00.293 --> 00:37:02.328
Again, it's solid metal so it's going to

824
00:37:02.328 --> 00:37:04.512
be heavy, about 400 pounds or more.

825
00:37:04.513 --> 00:37:07.348
This is a medium-grade or smaller one.

826
00:37:07.348 --> 00:37:10.585
They come much larger where there's no way

827
00:37:10.586 --> 00:37:12.610
you can lift them up.

828
00:37:12.611 --> 00:37:15.736
You would need I forklift.

829
00:37:15.736 --> 00:37:19.838
One of the effort that Mike was talking

830
00:37:19.839 --> 00:37:22.917
about, it's operation chain break where

831
00:37:22.918 --> 00:37:26.509
CBP along with other federal, state, and

832
00:37:26.510 --> 00:37:29.588
local groups or departments are targeting

833
00:37:29.589 --> 00:37:31.641
these pill press machines.

834
00:37:31.641 --> 00:37:33.849
And why are they targeting them?

835
00:37:33.851 --> 00:37:37.511
Because they make Fentanyl pills, the

836
00:37:37.513 --> 00:37:40.563
illegal smuggling efforts of Fentanyl

837
00:37:40.564 --> 00:37:42.564
pills.

838
00:37:42.564 --> 00:37:45.233
And a couple things that you need to know,

839
00:37:45.233 --> 00:37:48.380
if you're a broker or forwarder or

840
00:37:48.385 --> 00:37:51.987
importer of these items or the parts that

841
00:37:51.989 --> 00:37:54.695
obtaining a DEA registration number is

842
00:37:54.696 --> 00:37:57.848
mandatory to possess a pill press and

843
00:37:57.848 --> 00:37:59.848
manufacture drugs, right?

844
00:37:59.848 --> 00:38:02.366
So if you're transporting these goods,

845
00:38:02.374 --> 00:38:06.076
you're brokering and taking the entry for

846
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:09.253
this information, for these type of

847
00:38:09.254 --> 00:38:12.428
machinery, then they should have the

848
00:38:12.430 --> 00:38:14.430
registration number.

849
00:38:14.430 --> 00:38:18.096
On top of that, DEA has been targeting

850
00:38:18.096 --> 00:38:20.964
eCommerce entities selling pill presses

851
00:38:20.968 --> 00:38:22.969
online.

852
00:38:22.969 --> 00:38:25.275
And they're responsible for collecting

853
00:38:25.276 --> 00:38:27.276
information on the buyer and the seller

854
00:38:27.276 --> 00:38:29.686
for imports, the transfers, or the

855
00:38:29.870 --> 00:38:31.870
exports.

856
00:38:31.870 --> 00:38:35.222
So you can see that the federal agencies

857
00:38:35.222 --> 00:38:37.222
are really trying to keep up and -- and

858
00:38:37.222 --> 00:38:39.769
clamp down on these smuggling or illegal

859
00:38:39.962 --> 00:38:41.962
smuggling efforts.

860
00:38:41.962 --> 00:38:44.634
So write that down, take a picture of this

861
00:38:44.982 --> 00:38:47.538
PowerPoint slide and do your research.

862
00:38:47.539 --> 00:38:49.821
Various business entities that we have on

863
00:38:49.821 --> 00:38:52.418
this call, because you should be the key

864
00:38:52.422 --> 00:38:54.422
stakeholders in the international supply

865
00:38:54.422 --> 00:38:56.657
chain and you have the power to do

866
00:38:56.659 --> 00:38:58.659
something about it.

867
00:38:58.659 --> 00:39:00.682
Up top in the middle we've got a hopper

868
00:39:00.686 --> 00:39:03.398
which looks like an oil funnel that you

869
00:39:03.402 --> 00:39:06.453
would pour oil into your car like I do.

870
00:39:06.457 --> 00:39:09.867
And this goes on the top of the pill press

871
00:39:09.867 --> 00:39:11.904
machine and that's where the Fentanyl --

872
00:39:11.909 --> 00:39:14.293
blue Fentanyl powder is poured into the

873
00:39:14.294 --> 00:39:17.021
machine so that it can create those pills

874
00:39:17.022 --> 00:39:19.021
under lots of pressure.

875
00:39:19.021 --> 00:39:21.021
Mike.

876
00:39:21.021 --> 00:39:23.021
>> Okay.

877
00:39:23.021 --> 00:39:25.021
Thanks, George.

878
00:39:25.021 --> 00:39:27.147
So also you're going to see some internal

879
00:39:27.147 --> 00:39:29.147
parts, like that one on the top right,

880
00:39:29.147 --> 00:39:31.147
that's the drive shaft.

881
00:39:31.147 --> 00:39:33.147
Again, it's going to be a good chance that

882
00:39:33.147 --> 00:39:35.147
they're going to -- they're going to be

883
00:39:35.147 --> 00:39:37.147
sending these parts separately from a big

884
00:39:37.147 --> 00:39:39.147
pill press machine.

885
00:39:39.147 --> 00:39:41.147
If you could train your staff to know the

886
00:39:41.147 --> 00:39:43.147
inside parts such as that drive shaft,

887
00:39:43.147 --> 00:39:45.147
that would be a good idea.

888
00:39:45.147 --> 00:39:47.147
On the right-hand side you'll see the

889
00:39:47.147 --> 00:39:49.147
shoe-boot ejector.

890
00:39:49.147 --> 00:39:51.147
There's a nice picture from the side and

891
00:39:51.147 --> 00:39:53.147
up top what it looks like.

892
00:39:53.147 --> 00:39:55.147
Again, those would raise red flags if you

893
00:39:55.147 --> 00:39:57.147
see anything like that shape shoe-boot

894
00:39:57.147 --> 00:39:59.147
ejector, please investigate that before

895
00:39:59.147 --> 00:40:01.147
just shipping that.

896
00:40:01.147 --> 00:40:03.147
>> Thanks, Mike.

897
00:40:03.147 --> 00:40:05.147
And as Mike was saying, the shoe-boot

898
00:40:05.147 --> 00:40:07.147
ejector is a very oddly-shaped piece of

899
00:40:07.147 --> 00:40:09.147
equipment.

900
00:40:09.147 --> 00:40:11.281
If you look at it, it looks like a boot,

901
00:40:11.284 --> 00:40:13.284
it's just really odd.

902
00:40:13.284 --> 00:40:15.480
It's something if you see it in an x-ray,

903
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:17.719
you should able to pick it up really

904
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:19.718
easily.

905
00:40:19.718 --> 00:40:23.334
The other devices or pill making machines

906
00:40:23.334 --> 00:40:25.747
that I like to discuss are these cheap

907
00:40:25.748 --> 00:40:27.748
plastic devices.

908
00:40:27.749 --> 00:40:30.123
And they're called just manual capsule

909
00:40:30.124 --> 00:40:33.466
fillers. They don't require any electric.

910
00:40:33.466 --> 00:40:38.807
They're cheap to purchase, less than 100.

911
00:40:38.808 --> 00:40:41.692
Can make 100 capsules filled with Fentanyl

912
00:40:41.692 --> 00:40:43.749
per batch, but they're regulated.

913
00:40:43.751 --> 00:40:46.893
So if you encounter these or getting order

914
00:40:46.893 --> 00:40:48.893
for these, just understand what's

915
00:40:48.893 --> 00:40:51.606
happening here. They need to be -- further

916
00:40:51.607 --> 00:40:53.965
scrutiny should be taken when handling

917
00:40:53.965 --> 00:40:56.321
these goods, especially if they're being

918
00:40:56.321 --> 00:40:58.321
ordered.

919
00:40:58.321 --> 00:41:01.473
And understanding that you might want to

920
00:41:01.473 --> 00:41:03.473
call CBP or other law enforcement.

921
00:41:03.473 --> 00:41:05.496
I have this picture here just to

922
00:41:05.498 --> 00:41:08.116
demonstrate what a pill press machine of

923
00:41:08.117 --> 00:41:10.735
it after you've seen the assembled ones,

924
00:41:10.737 --> 00:41:14.103
one that's in one piece, and if you break

925
00:41:14.105 --> 00:41:17.097
it down, which you could do, which is

926
00:41:17.098 --> 00:41:19.716
happening, this is what it looks like.

927
00:41:19.718 --> 00:41:21.854
And you could -- you see the hand wheel,

928
00:41:21.856 --> 00:41:23.992
like I said, it looks like a steering

929
00:41:23.995 --> 00:41:25.995
wheel.

930
00:41:25.995 --> 00:41:28.695
You see the shoe boot to the left.

931
00:41:28.695 --> 00:41:30.695
You see the drive shaft in the middle.

932
00:41:30.695 --> 00:41:32.695
You could identify these parts.

933
00:41:32.695 --> 00:41:34.868
But you know, CBP is not new to the

934
00:41:35.934 --> 00:41:39.155
business of drug smuggling, so we

935
00:41:39.158 --> 00:41:42.917
understand that this was going to happen

936
00:41:42.917 --> 00:41:45.065
and that's what's happening.

937
00:41:45.065 --> 00:41:48.047
We know they're being broken down into

938
00:41:48.047 --> 00:41:51.023
parts, but we want everybody to understand

939
00:41:51.026 --> 00:41:54.430
if you see a shipment of various boxes

940
00:41:54.431 --> 00:41:57.839
maybe on one pallet and broken down into

941
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.391
separate parts like this, that's what's

942
00:42:00.391 --> 00:42:02.391
happening.

943
00:42:02.391 --> 00:42:04.995
They're trying to smurf them in, as we

944
00:42:04.995 --> 00:42:06.995
used to say in CBP.

945
00:42:06.995 --> 00:42:08.995
And you could potentially have an army of

946
00:42:08.995 --> 00:42:10.995
pill press machines of various types.

947
00:42:10.995 --> 00:42:14.374
If you look at the first ones with the

948
00:42:15.163 --> 00:42:19.020
plastic hoppers or funnels, those are hand

949
00:42:19.022 --> 00:42:21.226
cranks, you can see.

950
00:42:21.226 --> 00:42:24.871
And then the ones in the rear with that

951
00:42:24.874 --> 00:42:27.304
telltale giant hand steering wheel, that

952
00:42:27.306 --> 00:42:30.546
one sticks out a lot, that's an electronic

953
00:42:30.548 --> 00:42:33.788
motorized one that's going to be a lot

954
00:42:33.791 --> 00:42:35.791
heavier.

955
00:42:35.791 --> 00:42:42.948
Again, take a look at them, they're all

956
00:42:42.948 --> 00:42:48.406
palettized palletized. They are heavy

957
00:42:48.410 --> 00:42:50.410
steal.

958
00:42:50.411 --> 00:42:53.283
You've got two big officers trying to

959
00:42:53.283 --> 00:42:57.059
remove these from a drug seizure, and

960
00:42:57.060 --> 00:43:00.834
they're hazmated suited up because now you

961
00:43:00.836 --> 00:43:04.076
have a hazardous situation and they're

962
00:43:04.076 --> 00:43:06.076
hard to move.

963
00:43:06.076 --> 00:43:08.076
Okay.

964
00:43:08.076 --> 00:43:11.094
I just wanted to point it out how heavy

965
00:43:11.094 --> 00:43:13.094
these things are.

966
00:43:13.094 --> 00:43:15.094
Again, this is -- if they're broken up,

967
00:43:15.094 --> 00:43:17.094
they look like this, a hand wheel, solid

968
00:43:17.094 --> 00:43:19.094
metal.

969
00:43:19.094 --> 00:43:21.094
Dye molds for pills.

970
00:43:21.094 --> 00:43:23.205
You'll see more of those. And pill molds

971
00:43:23.205 --> 00:43:25.205
for making round pills to the right.

972
00:43:25.205 --> 00:43:28.937
And in the back you see a motor for a pill

973
00:43:28.939 --> 00:43:30.939
press machine.

974
00:43:30.939 --> 00:43:32.939
If they're broken up in parts, that motor

975
00:43:32.939 --> 00:43:35.333
is going to look like it could go on any

976
00:43:35.333 --> 00:43:37.333
type of machine.

977
00:43:37.333 --> 00:43:39.333
But we're going to use our common sense

978
00:43:39.333 --> 00:43:41.333
and training of our staff and maybe our

979
00:43:41.333 --> 00:43:43.333
security personnel that if they encounter

980
00:43:43.333 --> 00:43:45.499
these pieces broken down like this, that

981
00:43:45.499 --> 00:43:47.999
they could conclude that some's trying to

982
00:43:48.004 --> 00:43:50.154
put together a pill press machine.

983
00:43:50.157 --> 00:43:55.591
Here are the pill punches that are used to

984
00:43:55.592 --> 00:43:59.216
make the M-30 blue Fentanyl pills.

985
00:43:59.218 --> 00:44:01.994
To the right you'll see the dye molds.

986
00:44:01.997 --> 00:44:05.701
No longer are there just a round shape,

987
00:44:05.701 --> 00:44:08.942
but they're various shapes and sizes, and

988
00:44:08.942 --> 00:44:12.643
if you encounter some of these type of

989
00:44:12.645 --> 00:44:15.885
punches, they could be used to make

990
00:44:15.886 --> 00:44:19.590
ecstasy or they might even be used or

991
00:44:19.590 --> 00:44:23.293
ordered to just the -- to market the brand

992
00:44:23.293 --> 00:44:25.607
name for these drug smuggling

993
00:44:25.608 --> 00:44:27.608
organizations.

994
00:44:27.608 --> 00:44:30.086
So just keep that in mind.

995
00:44:30.086 --> 00:44:35.067
Here's more on the pill presses .

996
00:44:36.185 --> 00:44:39.561
This is more of what CBP is encountering.

997
00:44:39.562 --> 00:44:42.220
Huge number of pill press punches.

998
00:44:42.220 --> 00:44:44.475
When I first saw this picture and the

999
00:44:44.475 --> 00:44:46.475
number that we're getting in with CBP

1000
00:44:46.475 --> 00:44:48.475
seizures, my first question was, why would

1001
00:44:48.475 --> 00:44:50.475
they need so many?

1002
00:44:50.475 --> 00:44:53.349
So it turns out that the pill punches that

1003
00:44:53.354 --> 00:44:57.169
are a piece in the pill press machine that

1004
00:44:57.172 --> 00:45:01.412
you could compare it to the tires on a car

1005
00:45:01.413 --> 00:45:03.413
that meet the road.

1006
00:45:03.413 --> 00:45:06.367
So on your car, the tires are the piece

1007
00:45:06.369 --> 00:45:08.369
that wear out.

1008
00:45:08.369 --> 00:45:10.569
So in this case, the punches are the piece

1009
00:45:10.569 --> 00:45:12.980
that have direct contact with the Fentanyl

1010
00:45:12.984 --> 00:45:15.749
powder, so they're going to wear out after

1011
00:45:15.750 --> 00:45:18.169
you make thousands and thousands of pills.

1012
00:45:18.171 --> 00:45:22.657
So this is what we're seeing, CBP is

1013
00:45:22.657 --> 00:45:26.013
seeing being ordered with a regular

1014
00:45:26.016 --> 00:45:28.015
frequency.

1015
00:45:28.015 --> 00:45:30.587
The drug makers are using them, they're

1016
00:45:30.587 --> 00:45:32.587
wearing out, so they keep ordering them

1017
00:45:32.587 --> 00:45:34.587
and need a steady supply of them.

1018
00:45:34.587 --> 00:45:37.707
If you look at the pill press and the mold

1019
00:45:37.989 --> 00:45:40.933
to the right, these are a different shape,

1020
00:45:40.934 --> 00:45:43.142
they're no longer just circular, and

1021
00:45:43.143 --> 00:45:45.143
that's what we're encountering.

1022
00:45:45.143 --> 00:45:47.143
Okay, Mike.

1023
00:45:47.143 --> 00:45:49.143
>> Thanks, George.

1024
00:45:49.143 --> 00:45:51.855
So right here is a nice up-close picture

1025
00:45:51.855 --> 00:45:53.855
of the pill molds and the boot ejector

1026
00:45:53.855 --> 00:45:55.855
again.

1027
00:45:55.855 --> 00:45:58.246
Please, we want to stress have your cargo

1028
00:45:58.246 --> 00:46:00.246
handlers, whoever might come in contact

1029
00:46:00.246 --> 00:46:02.246
with the freight, be familiar with the

1030
00:46:02.246 --> 00:46:04.246
pictures of these items.

1031
00:46:04.246 --> 00:46:06.246
Again, heavy dense steel, easily seen on

1032
00:46:06.246 --> 00:46:08.246
an x-ray.

1033
00:46:08.246 --> 00:46:10.246
Again, that boot ejector, that's a red

1034
00:46:10.246 --> 00:46:12.246
flag. That's only really used in the

1035
00:46:12.246 --> 00:46:14.246
making of pharmaceutical-grade pills.

1036
00:46:14.246 --> 00:46:16.246
If your customer does not fit that

1037
00:46:16.246 --> 00:46:18.246
description, you really want to look into

1038
00:46:18.246 --> 00:46:20.246
that and not ship a piece that looks like

1039
00:46:20.246 --> 00:46:22.246
that boot ejector.

1040
00:46:22.246 --> 00:46:24.292
Definitely not to a residence either.

1041
00:46:24.292 --> 00:46:26.292
>> Exactly.

1042
00:46:26.292 --> 00:46:28.906
So if it's going to George Rudy or Michael

1043
00:46:28.908 --> 00:46:33.276
Smith's house, then you know, it should is

1044
00:46:33.279 --> 00:46:35.463
a research University hospital,

1045
00:46:35.464 --> 00:46:37.464
pharmaceutical company.

1046
00:46:37.464 --> 00:46:40.048
In this image, you see what I was talking

1047
00:46:40.048 --> 00:46:42.360
about earlier, the blue Fentanyl residue,

1048
00:46:42.367 --> 00:46:44.367
it's all over the place.

1049
00:46:44.367 --> 00:46:46.795
So a red flag should go up.

1050
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:51.273
These are vertical bearing rods. In the

1051
00:46:51.273 --> 00:46:55.742
left photo it's affixed to the machine.

1052
00:46:55.744 --> 00:46:58.530
To the right you'll see differently shaped

1053
00:46:58.533 --> 00:47:01.717
bearing rods that are not screwed in or

1054
00:47:01.720 --> 00:47:05.302
housed into the unit yet, but as I said

1055
00:47:05.306 --> 00:47:07.694
before, you might see somebody taking

1056
00:47:07.697 --> 00:47:10.881
these pill press machines in pieces to try

1057
00:47:10.884 --> 00:47:14.068
and assemble them piece by piece in the

1058
00:47:14.071 --> 00:47:16.071
United States.

1059
00:47:16.071 --> 00:47:18.083
Here's some more oddly-shaped pill -- pill

1060
00:47:18.086 --> 00:47:21.302
press punches, pill punches, and again,

1061
00:47:21.305 --> 00:47:25.057
probably used to make ecstasy, but then

1062
00:47:25.060 --> 00:47:28.812
the ecstasy could be tainted with Fentanyl

1063
00:47:28.814 --> 00:47:33.638
and result in a fatality. Or some of the

1064
00:47:33.642 --> 00:47:38.466
pill punches as you see to the right, just

1065
00:47:38.470 --> 00:47:42.222
very oddly shaped molds, no longer just

1066
00:47:42.224 --> 00:47:44.368
circular for a pill.

1067
00:47:44.612 --> 00:47:46.612
That's not something that you're going to

1068
00:47:46.612 --> 00:47:48.612
get at your pharmacy.

1069
00:47:48.612 --> 00:47:50.612
So those should really stand out.

1070
00:47:50.612 --> 00:47:53.465
And what both of us have been saying all

1071
00:47:53.465 --> 00:47:55.465
along is they're heavy, solid metal.

1072
00:47:55.465 --> 00:47:57.465
They're going to stand out.

1073
00:47:57.465 --> 00:47:59.738
Now we're going to do like a review before

1074
00:47:59.742 --> 00:48:01.741
the final exam.

1075
00:48:01.741 --> 00:48:03.858
There's no final exam here, but we're just

1076
00:48:03.858 --> 00:48:05.858
going to review all the parts and pieces

1077
00:48:05.858 --> 00:48:07.858
that we're talking about.

1078
00:48:07.858 --> 00:48:09.858
The boot/shoe ejector, the dye molds, the

1079
00:48:09.858 --> 00:48:11.858
upper punch, the middle dyes, all the dyes

1080
00:48:11.858 --> 00:48:13.858
and punches, and then the ejection tray,

1081
00:48:13.858 --> 00:48:16.161
we didn't talk about it but it's just a

1082
00:48:16.161 --> 00:48:18.711
tray that the pills are -- come out of.

1083
00:48:18.863 --> 00:48:21.759
We'll talk about the hopper that I was

1084
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:23.760
talking about, the funnel.

1085
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:25.890
The pill press motor, the frequency

1086
00:48:25.893 --> 00:48:29.022
controlling the hand wheel or motor wheel.

1087
00:48:29.025 --> 00:48:31.657
And in this case, this pill press machine,

1088
00:48:31.660 --> 00:48:34.292
the hand wheel, remember I was telling you

1089
00:48:34.295 --> 00:48:36.927
all about, that it looks like the steering

1090
00:48:36.930 --> 00:48:39.891
wheel of a car or go cart steering wheel.

1091
00:48:39.895 --> 00:48:42.949
But in this case, it's internal.

1092
00:48:42.952 --> 00:48:44.952
So it's small.

1093
00:48:44.952 --> 00:48:48.049
It's smaller about the size of your hand.

1094
00:48:48.053 --> 00:48:50.083
So when I started off this PowerPoint

1095
00:48:50.086 --> 00:48:52.406
presentation, I didn't say it was going to

1096
00:48:52.409 --> 00:48:55.019
be as easy as it looks to identify these

1097
00:48:55.023 --> 00:48:57.023
things, because there's different makes

1098
00:48:57.023 --> 00:48:59.023
and models of pill press machines.

1099
00:48:59.023 --> 00:49:02.377
And in this case this is a more high end

1100
00:49:02.378 --> 00:49:06.122
model and so let's play the video so you

1101
00:49:06.122 --> 00:49:09.450
can see what a working pill press machine

1102
00:49:09.451 --> 00:49:11.451
looks like.

1103
00:49:11.451 --> 00:49:13.531
We're going to zoom in and immediately you

1104
00:49:13.531 --> 00:49:15.531
see a lot of blue Fentanyl powder in the

1105
00:49:15.531 --> 00:49:17.531
back there.

1106
00:49:17.531 --> 00:49:19.531
And there's the punch and the boot in the

1107
00:49:19.531 --> 00:49:21.531
back.

1108
00:49:21.531 --> 00:49:23.531
Now we go up and there's the hopper.

1109
00:49:23.531 --> 00:49:25.531
And there's the Fentanyl powder that is

1110
00:49:25.531 --> 00:49:27.531
poured into the hopper.

1111
00:49:27.531 --> 00:49:29.531
And that's the frequency control.

1112
00:49:29.531 --> 00:49:31.875
Now this unit's being run very slowly so

1113
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:35.310
we can see how a pill is made.

1114
00:49:35.315 --> 00:49:38.681
And it's punched in with a punch, as you

1115
00:49:38.683 --> 00:49:41.675
can see, and the boot is booting the

1116
00:49:41.677 --> 00:49:43.921
Fentanyl pill out of the device.

1117
00:49:43.922 --> 00:49:46.407
And it's running, again, very slowly just

1118
00:49:46.408 --> 00:49:48.893
so we can see or witness, better

1119
00:49:48.895 --> 00:49:50.895
understand how this machine works.

1120
00:49:50.895 --> 00:49:55.368
And now we're trying to zoom in to the

1121
00:49:55.368 --> 00:49:57.449
M-30 blue Fentanyl pill.

1122
00:49:57.454 --> 00:50:00.711
And one thing you have to take note of,

1123
00:50:00.712 --> 00:50:04.331
you see the 30, and you see also that it's

1124
00:50:04.333 --> 00:50:06.867
very ragged. Now this is not something --

1125
00:50:06.868 --> 00:50:09.764
if it were prescribed at your pharmacy and

1126
00:50:09.765 --> 00:50:12.299
you received that from a pharmacist, I

1127
00:50:12.299 --> 00:50:14.833
would never go to that pharmacy again.

1128
00:50:15.302 --> 00:50:17.302
I would go somewhere else.

1129
00:50:17.302 --> 00:50:19.493
Because this one you could tell was made

1130
00:50:19.493 --> 00:50:21.493
in somebody's garage or something.

1131
00:50:21.493 --> 00:50:23.493
So that's another red flag.

1132
00:50:23.493 --> 00:50:25.797
A telltale sign that if you are shipping

1133
00:50:25.797 --> 00:50:28.504
these goods and they might have the

1134
00:50:28.504 --> 00:50:31.211
documentation, but maybe it's not real if

1135
00:50:31.212 --> 00:50:34.305
you examine the cargo like you would maybe

1136
00:50:34.306 --> 00:50:36.306
in this case.

1137
00:50:36.306 --> 00:50:38.362
And then maybe just reject that shipment.

1138
00:50:38.364 --> 00:50:40.364
Okay, Mike.

1139
00:50:40.364 --> 00:50:42.364
>> Okay.

1140
00:50:42.364 --> 00:50:44.364
Thanks, George.

1141
00:50:44.364 --> 00:50:48.186
That's a great video to have.

1142
00:50:48.186 --> 00:50:50.186
So the picture on the left, wooden items

1143
00:50:50.186 --> 00:50:52.186
we see frequently.

1144
00:50:52.186 --> 00:50:54.186
They're very easy to hollow out and very

1145
00:50:54.186 --> 00:50:56.186
easy to put pills or powder into wooden

1146
00:50:56.186 --> 00:50:58.186
items like this.

1147
00:50:58.186 --> 00:51:00.186
The picture on the right is pretty

1148
00:51:00.186 --> 00:51:02.186
interesting, right.

1149
00:51:02.186 --> 00:51:05.703
This is a portable Mesa, it's a porcelain

1150
00:51:05.703 --> 00:51:07.703
sink.

1151
00:51:07.703 --> 00:51:09.703
Almost 1 million pills in this sink.

1152
00:51:09.703 --> 00:51:12.459
We were on the set teams at the port, so

1153
00:51:12.459 --> 00:51:14.459
we're pretty familiar with these types of

1154
00:51:14.459 --> 00:51:16.459
seizures.

1155
00:51:16.459 --> 00:51:18.459
We know that the smugglers from time and

1156
00:51:18.459 --> 00:51:20.459
they have the money to do these elaborate

1157
00:51:20.459 --> 00:51:22.459
type of smuggling techniques, but CBP

1158
00:51:22.459 --> 00:51:24.459
thankfully likes to look into these and we

1159
00:51:24.459 --> 00:51:26.459
like to get our tools out and break them

1160
00:51:26.459 --> 00:51:28.459
apart.

1161
00:51:28.459 --> 00:51:30.459
It's a good thing we did.

1162
00:51:30.459 --> 00:51:32.459
900,000 Fentanyl pills.

1163
00:51:32.459 --> 00:51:34.459
That's possibly 900,000 overdoses when

1164
00:51:34.459 --> 00:51:36.459
you're playing with a narcotic like

1165
00:51:36.459 --> 00:51:38.459
Fentanyl.

1166
00:51:38.459 --> 00:51:40.592
I don't think that's too crazy to say.

1167
00:51:40.592 --> 00:51:44.117
Right here we also see a lot of smuggling

1168
00:51:44.117 --> 00:51:46.856
and this cheap type of wooden furniture.

1169
00:51:46.860 --> 00:51:49.099
Again, it's going to be just powder and

1170
00:51:49.099 --> 00:51:51.099
pills, but in this cheap type of

1171
00:51:51.099 --> 00:51:53.099
furniture, if you were to check the

1172
00:51:53.099 --> 00:51:55.251
weight, even if you were just moving it,

1173
00:51:55.252 --> 00:51:57.491
you should be able to tell that it's

1174
00:51:57.491 --> 00:51:59.491
loaded.

1175
00:51:59.491 --> 00:52:02.184
So please, again, we talked about weights

1176
00:52:02.184 --> 00:52:04.184
a few times on these slides, so please

1177
00:52:04.184 --> 00:52:06.184
definitely check the weights for

1178
00:52:06.184 --> 00:52:08.184
discrepancies and have the handlers tell

1179
00:52:08.184 --> 00:52:10.464
you it feels heavier than it should.

1180
00:52:10.466 --> 00:52:12.466
And the next picture George is going to

1181
00:52:12.466 --> 00:52:14.466
show you what we actually pulled out of

1182
00:52:14.466 --> 00:52:16.466
that.

1183
00:52:16.466 --> 00:52:18.560
Pretty -- pretty hard to believe, again,

1184
00:52:18.560 --> 00:52:20.560
every time I see it, I say man, that's a

1185
00:52:20.560 --> 00:52:23.312
lot of pills and a lot of powder to pull

1186
00:52:23.681 --> 00:52:25.681
out of that furniture.

1187
00:52:25.681 --> 00:52:29.307
Be on the lookout for that cheap wooden

1188
00:52:29.508 --> 00:52:33.205
furniture if you deal in that product.

1189
00:52:33.209 --> 00:52:35.209
>> I agree, Mike.

1190
00:52:35.209 --> 00:52:37.209
That's a very disturbing image.

1191
00:52:37.209 --> 00:52:40.833
This one is equally disturbing.

1192
00:52:40.833 --> 00:52:42.833
It's --

1193
00:52:42.833 --> 00:52:45.655
it's Fentanyl mixed in with your salad or

1194
00:52:45.655 --> 00:52:47.655
green beans.

1195
00:52:47.655 --> 00:52:49.655
And I don't know about anybody else on

1196
00:52:49.655 --> 00:52:51.655
this call, but when I go shopping and I'm

1197
00:52:51.655 --> 00:52:53.655
shopping for fruits and vegetables for

1198
00:52:53.655 --> 00:52:55.655
salad, the last thing you want season -- I

1199
00:52:55.655 --> 00:52:57.655
don't even want soap with my salad, let

1200
00:52:57.655 --> 00:52:59.655
alone Fentanyl, right.

1201
00:52:59.655 --> 00:53:01.655
So especially with the potency that this

1202
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:04.697
narcotic, this drug, contraband has, it's

1203
00:53:04.698 --> 00:53:07.145
not something that you want.

1204
00:53:07.147 --> 00:53:11.100
So that's why CBP is really spearheading

1205
00:53:11.100 --> 00:53:14.482
this effort towards prevention of this

1206
00:53:14.486 --> 00:53:16.486
illegal drug smuggling.

1207
00:53:16.486 --> 00:53:19.873
Here's some more smuggling efforts that

1208
00:53:19.878 --> 00:53:22.957
CBP has encountered and stopped.

1209
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:27.400
CBP officers at the port of San Ysidro.

1210
00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:30.361
We've got rainbow colored Fentanyl in the

1211
00:53:30.361 --> 00:53:32.361
panels of a vehicle.

1212
00:53:32.361 --> 00:53:34.968
And mind you this is not just in a

1213
00:53:34.972 --> 00:53:36.972
vehicle, understand that it could easily

1214
00:53:36.972 --> 00:53:39.843
be in a container as the image in the

1215
00:53:39.845 --> 00:53:41.845
middle of personal effects where you've

1216
00:53:41.845 --> 00:53:44.718
got a vehicle just like the one that came

1217
00:53:44.718 --> 00:53:47.314
across the port of entry at San Ysidro.

1218
00:53:47.317 --> 00:53:50.465
But this container has a vehicle in it and

1219
00:53:50.465 --> 00:53:52.910
the panels could be loaded with Fentanyl.

1220
00:53:52.914 --> 00:53:56.458
And this case it's got a mattress and the

1221
00:53:56.460 --> 00:53:59.218
kitchen sink and Fentanyl such as the

1222
00:53:59.221 --> 00:54:02.373
Fentanyl in the upper image which is the

1223
00:54:02.375 --> 00:54:05.921
blue M-30 pills, as Mike and I have just

1224
00:54:05.924 --> 00:54:08.682
constantly gone over. And both of those

1225
00:54:08.684 --> 00:54:11.836
vehicles might have a spare tire, the one

1226
00:54:11.838 --> 00:54:15.384
to the right, in that case you have white

1227
00:54:15.386 --> 00:54:17.750
Fentanyl pills in the spare tire.

1228
00:54:17.752 --> 00:54:22.776
So pretty much just be aware that in

1229
00:54:22.777 --> 00:54:27.801
any -- any void space or an empty space

1230
00:54:27.803 --> 00:54:29.803
could contain narcotics.

1231
00:54:30.126 --> 00:54:32.834
Any red flags for a customer that you

1232
00:54:32.950 --> 00:54:36.127
might be taking on, if you're a broker or

1233
00:54:36.128 --> 00:54:38.952
if you're an importer, if you notice any

1234
00:54:38.952 --> 00:54:41.776
of the items or discrepancies or red flags

1235
00:54:41.776 --> 00:54:44.247
that we're talking about, you might want

1236
00:54:44.248 --> 00:54:47.778
to do not load or do not handle that or

1237
00:54:47.778 --> 00:54:49.778
just notify us.

1238
00:54:49.778 --> 00:54:53.637
Here's a Fentanyl precursor, huge seizure

1239
00:54:53.639 --> 00:55:00.039
of over 5,000 pounds at the port of

1240
00:55:00.042 --> 00:55:02.042
Loredo.

1241
00:55:02.042 --> 00:55:04.042
Point of port of entry.

1242
00:55:04.042 --> 00:55:08.054
And in the middle this is where the master

1243
00:55:08.054 --> 00:55:10.054
carton smuggling takes place at the mail

1244
00:55:10.054 --> 00:55:12.605
facilities, that's why we have our K nine

1245
00:55:12.606 --> 00:55:15.282
officers ready to intercept and identify

1246
00:55:15.282 --> 00:55:17.512
these -- the Fentanyl coming in.

1247
00:55:17.814 --> 00:55:20.579
One of the questions that we frequently

1248
00:55:20.579 --> 00:55:24.121
get is are K-9s, the dogs, are they able

1249
00:55:24.126 --> 00:55:27.280
to detect Fentanyl in the answer is yes.

1250
00:55:27.283 --> 00:55:30.944
But in some cases since this is the new

1251
00:55:30.944 --> 00:55:34.191
trend taking place, I was asked the other

1252
00:55:34.194 --> 00:55:36.633
day if the third-party contracting K-9

1253
00:55:36.635 --> 00:55:38.669
officers, they have that capability.

1254
00:55:38.669 --> 00:55:40.803
Yeah, but you probably have to ask them

1255
00:55:40.803 --> 00:55:42.927
because if they don't have a dog that's

1256
00:55:42.932 --> 00:55:44.932
trained on Fentanyl yet, that's something

1257
00:55:44.932 --> 00:55:47.198
that you might want to ask them to do and

1258
00:55:47.198 --> 00:55:49.198
go over.

1259
00:55:49.198 --> 00:55:51.825
And to the right, another pill press

1260
00:55:51.825 --> 00:55:53.825
machine.

1261
00:55:53.825 --> 00:55:55.907
It's encased in a wooden crate, which is

1262
00:55:55.907 --> 00:55:57.907
significant of the fact that it's heavy.

1263
00:55:57.907 --> 00:55:59.907
Solid metal.

1264
00:55:59.907 --> 00:56:02.171
Again, on this unit you can see it's got

1265
00:56:02.171 --> 00:56:04.171
the little tiny hand wheel.

1266
00:56:04.171 --> 00:56:06.171
Doesn't have the big steering wheel like

1267
00:56:06.171 --> 00:56:08.379
we were talking about, but this is the

1268
00:56:08.380 --> 00:56:10.967
second instance it's a smaller wheel, so

1269
00:56:10.968 --> 00:56:13.556
you can understand what you're looking at

1270
00:56:13.556 --> 00:56:15.556
now.

1271
00:56:15.556 --> 00:56:18.153
All right.

1272
00:56:18.153 --> 00:56:20.153
Okay, Mike.

1273
00:56:20.153 --> 00:56:22.153
>> Thanks, George.

1274
00:56:22.153 --> 00:56:24.153
On the next slide we're going over best

1275
00:56:24.153 --> 00:56:26.153
practices and supply chain security that

1276
00:56:26.153 --> 00:56:28.153
me and George have seen in our years with

1277
00:56:28.153 --> 00:56:30.153
basically the global supply chain.

1278
00:56:30.153 --> 00:56:32.153
Using CTPAT minimum security criteria, we

1279
00:56:32.153 --> 00:56:34.153
can highlight some of these areas that

1280
00:56:34.153 --> 00:56:36.153
would assist you in the prevention of

1281
00:56:36.153 --> 00:56:38.299
Fentanyl from entering your supply chain.

1282
00:56:38.627 --> 00:56:41.372
If you happen to not be in CTPAT, these

1283
00:56:41.376 --> 00:56:43.816
are basic things you should be doing as

1284
00:56:43.820 --> 00:56:45.820
well.

1285
00:56:45.820 --> 00:56:47.820
Under corporate security, the support of

1286
00:56:47.820 --> 00:56:49.820
upper management.

1287
00:56:49.820 --> 00:56:51.820
We know a well-rounded supply chain

1288
00:56:51.820 --> 00:56:53.888
security program must have the support and

1289
00:56:53.888 --> 00:56:55.888
what we call the buy-in from the top down.

1290
00:56:55.888 --> 00:56:57.888
That's going to equal a program that

1291
00:56:57.888 --> 00:57:01.362
pretty much will have some insentives

1292
00:57:01.632 --> 00:57:04.307
forincentives for proactivity for

1293
00:57:04.307 --> 00:57:07.652
reporting things that they find.

1294
00:57:07.652 --> 00:57:10.362
Importantly it's going to have a

1295
00:57:10.362 --> 00:57:13.524
cross-functional team, not just one or two

1296
00:57:13.525 --> 00:57:16.688
people in your supply chain security team,

1297
00:57:16.689 --> 00:57:18.689
but a cross-functional team.

1298
00:57:18.689 --> 00:57:20.689
Many problems we've had over the years is

1299
00:57:20.689 --> 00:57:22.689
there's only one or two people has part of

1300
00:57:22.689 --> 00:57:24.689
that CTPAT team or that supply chain team.

1301
00:57:24.689 --> 00:57:26.689
Those people move on and they have to

1302
00:57:26.689 --> 00:57:28.689
train new people from the beginning and

1303
00:57:28.689 --> 00:57:30.689
they ask us to train them.

1304
00:57:30.689 --> 00:57:32.689
So it doesn't really work that way.

1305
00:57:32.689 --> 00:57:35.447
Good to have a cross-functional team with

1306
00:57:35.447 --> 00:57:37.447
many people involved.

1307
00:57:37.447 --> 00:57:39.447
You would also -- that second part, risk

1308
00:57:39.447 --> 00:57:41.447
assessment, I spoke about it earlier.

1309
00:57:41.447 --> 00:57:43.447
Map out the global supply chain, but this

1310
00:57:43.447 --> 00:57:45.447
time in regard to Fentanyl source

1311
00:57:45.447 --> 00:57:47.447
countries, and give those countries a high

1312
00:57:47.447 --> 00:57:49.720
risk score, those supply chains a little

1313
00:57:49.721 --> 00:57:52.182
more of a high risk score.

1314
00:57:52.183 --> 00:57:54.550
Do the extra steps so that those areas are

1315
00:57:54.550 --> 00:57:56.550
mitigated.

1316
00:57:56.550 --> 00:57:58.550
What does that mean in the real world?

1317
00:57:58.550 --> 00:58:01.366
It means doing more physical exams in

1318
00:58:01.366 --> 00:58:03.393
those supply chains.

1319
00:58:03.399 --> 00:58:05.751
It means doing more random exams.

1320
00:58:05.753 --> 00:58:07.832
It means doing more document checks on

1321
00:58:07.832 --> 00:58:10.208
those supply chains that you have given a

1322
00:58:10.208 --> 00:58:12.287
higher risk score due to this Fentanyl

1323
00:58:12.287 --> 00:58:14.287
epidemic.

1324
00:58:14.287 --> 00:58:16.373
If shipping by truck over the border,

1325
00:58:16.373 --> 00:58:18.373
you're going to want to add GPS, but

1326
00:58:18.373 --> 00:58:20.373
you're going to put the geofencing

1327
00:58:20.373 --> 00:58:22.373
feature, activate that is one thing you

1328
00:58:22.373 --> 00:58:24.373
would do in the real world, especially if

1329
00:58:24.373 --> 00:58:26.373
you're trucking over the southern border.

1330
00:58:26.373 --> 00:58:28.373
But also the northern border we're seeing

1331
00:58:28.373 --> 00:58:30.373
it come through as well.

1332
00:58:30.373 --> 00:58:32.373
You're going to have drivers reporting in

1333
00:58:32.373 --> 00:58:34.971
a little more often than usual if you're

1334
00:58:35.307 --> 00:58:37.307
in these supply chains.

1335
00:58:37.308 --> 00:58:39.308
Personnel security, again, background

1336
00:58:39.308 --> 00:58:41.308
checks are key.

1337
00:58:41.308 --> 00:58:43.308
We know that.

1338
00:58:43.308 --> 00:58:45.396
Please do them more than just upon hire.

1339
00:58:45.396 --> 00:58:47.396
Do them for the contractors also who touch

1340
00:58:47.396 --> 00:58:49.396
the freight.

1341
00:58:49.396 --> 00:58:51.396
If you are cross the southwest border,

1342
00:58:51.396 --> 00:58:53.396
make sure the drivers are well screened.

1343
00:58:53.396 --> 00:58:55.396
We know that they are a weak link over our

1344
00:58:55.396 --> 00:58:57.396
years in CTPAT. They're alone with the

1345
00:58:57.396 --> 00:58:59.396
cargo for hours at a time. They could pull

1346
00:58:59.396 --> 00:59:01.396
over on the road, they could throw a

1347
00:59:01.396 --> 00:59:03.396
duffle bag right in.

1348
00:59:03.396 --> 00:59:05.395
Please, try to screen those drivers as

1349
00:59:05.396 --> 00:59:07.396
good as possible.

1350
00:59:07.396 --> 00:59:09.396
All things that you are probably already

1351
00:59:09.396 --> 00:59:11.395
doing, you're familiar with, but now with

1352
00:59:11.396 --> 00:59:14.965
a little bit more of an eye and hopefully

1353
00:59:15.150 --> 00:59:17.775
some knowledge that you've gained today

1354
00:59:17.776 --> 00:59:20.840
with the threat of Fentanyl smuggling in

1355
00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:22.840
your supply chain.

1356
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:24.840
Okay, George.

1357
00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:26.840
>> Thanks, Mike. I know we're getting

1358
00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:28.840
close -- we're already close to the end,

1359
00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:31.218
if you can hang on a couple more slides.

1360
00:59:31.218 --> 00:59:33.218
Training is one of the minimum security

1361
00:59:33.218 --> 00:59:35.477
criteria, as Mike was saying that even if

1362
00:59:35.477 --> 00:59:37.967
you're not CTPAT, every business that's

1363
00:59:37.967 --> 00:59:40.870
still conducting business and is in good

1364
00:59:40.872 --> 00:59:43.775
standing as far as making money, you're

1365
00:59:43.775 --> 00:59:45.850
already doing all these items.

1366
00:59:45.851 --> 00:59:49.491
So that's the backbone of the CTPAT

1367
00:59:49.491 --> 00:59:51.491
program.

1368
00:59:51.491 --> 00:59:54.522
But training in regards to the Fentanyl

1369
00:59:54.522 --> 00:59:56.522
threat is important because we have to

1370
00:59:56.522 --> 00:59:58.661
educate our employees of this threat.

1371
00:59:58.664 --> 01:00:02.902
And the second part of training so that

1372
01:00:02.902 --> 01:00:06.082
the employees really don't forget what

1373
01:00:06.083 --> 01:00:10.853
they learned is you have to have some type

1374
01:00:10.853 --> 01:00:12.853
of incentive.

1375
01:00:12.853 --> 01:00:15.181
And the incentive is if they're told that

1376
01:00:15.181 --> 01:00:17.181
they're action could save lives, if they

1377
01:00:17.181 --> 01:00:19.181
could do not load a package that has all

1378
01:00:19.181 --> 01:00:21.218
the red flags that we talked about or

1379
01:00:21.218 --> 01:00:23.253
other red flags -- because we don't know

1380
01:00:23.253 --> 01:00:25.253
it all, otherwise nothing dangerous would

1381
01:00:25.253 --> 01:00:27.253
be coming into the United States.

1382
01:00:27.253 --> 01:00:29.510
So we're having the discussion and the

1383
01:00:29.510 --> 01:00:31.777
awareness, but just make sure that

1384
01:00:31.777 --> 01:00:34.422
employees are thanked if they do find

1385
01:00:34.423 --> 01:00:36.419
something.

1386
01:00:36.419 --> 01:00:39.952
And it could just be, you know, just

1387
01:00:39.952 --> 01:00:41.952
recognition, letting them know that

1388
01:00:41.952 --> 01:00:43.952
they're saving lives.

1389
01:00:43.952 --> 01:00:45.952
Business partner screening, from the top

1390
01:00:45.952 --> 01:00:48.636
down, as Mike said, from the corporate

1391
01:00:49.295 --> 01:00:51.295
security --

1392
01:00:51.295 --> 01:00:53.295
corporate security head down to make sure

1393
01:00:53.789 --> 01:00:56.549
that everybody in the international supply

1394
01:00:56.551 --> 01:00:59.311
chain, even their business partners, if

1395
01:00:59.313 --> 01:01:01.613
there's weaknesses that are discovered

1396
01:01:01.615 --> 01:01:04.375
that they should revisit those weaknesses

1397
01:01:04.378 --> 01:01:07.598
and make sure the follow-up is -- or

1398
01:01:07.600 --> 01:01:10.360
follow-up action plan is incorporated for

1399
01:01:10.363 --> 01:01:12.363
your business partners.

1400
01:01:12.363 --> 01:01:15.250
If you're an importer, we're talking about

1401
01:01:15.542 --> 01:01:19.049
those business partners that are abroad or

1402
01:01:19.052 --> 01:01:21.557
anywhere within those -- the international

1403
01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:23.559
supply chain.

1404
01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:26.145
Here's part of the training efforts that I

1405
01:01:26.557 --> 01:01:28.557
was talking about.

1406
01:01:28.557 --> 01:01:31.629
The CBP alerts on the pill press machines

1407
01:01:31.631 --> 01:01:33.631
to the left.

1408
01:01:33.631 --> 01:01:36.341
And then to the right the various shapes

1409
01:01:36.341 --> 01:01:39.647
and sizes, blue Fentanyl, the M-30 in the

1410
01:01:39.650 --> 01:01:42.132
middle and then the rainbow colored

1411
01:01:42.132 --> 01:01:45.444
Fentanyl that is also seized but not as

1412
01:01:45.445 --> 01:01:47.445
much as the blue.

1413
01:01:47.445 --> 01:01:51.769
And then back to those images can be

1414
01:01:51.769 --> 01:01:55.857
obtained -- oops, I guess it didn't show

1415
01:01:55.857 --> 01:01:57.857
up on here.

1416
01:01:57.857 --> 01:02:01.319
Okay. But they're on the CTPAT portal

1417
01:02:01.484 --> 01:02:05.188
site, for those companies that in CTPAT.

1418
01:02:05.192 --> 01:02:08.468
But you can also take an image or a

1419
01:02:08.468 --> 01:02:11.004
snapshot or screenshot of these and then

1420
01:02:11.010 --> 01:02:13.554
use these for your own training efforts.

1421
01:02:13.556 --> 01:02:15.556
Okay.

1422
01:02:15.556 --> 01:02:18.370
So for your business partner checks, if

1423
01:02:18.370 --> 01:02:20.370
you're taking on new business partners or

1424
01:02:20.370 --> 01:02:22.831
if the company has been taken over or

1425
01:02:22.831 --> 01:02:25.644
acquired by a larger company as -- from

1426
01:02:25.646 --> 01:02:28.054
the corporate down, again, that has

1427
01:02:28.054 --> 01:02:31.663
authority to do so, you got to make sure

1428
01:02:31.667 --> 01:02:33.676
that the companies are legitimate.

1429
01:02:33.993 --> 01:02:36.968
Especially if they're a point of origin,

1430
01:02:36.969 --> 01:02:40.369
if they're a new supplier, or if they're

1431
01:02:40.370 --> 01:02:42.495
transportation providers for your cargo.

1432
01:02:42.496 --> 01:02:46.088
And it could be something as simple as

1433
01:02:46.088 --> 01:02:48.777
research on the Internet asking for

1434
01:02:48.779 --> 01:02:51.471
business references and a credit report.

1435
01:02:51.472 --> 01:02:53.472
Okay, Mike.

1436
01:02:53.472 --> 01:02:55.472
>> Okay, George.

1437
01:02:55.472 --> 01:02:57.726
Again, we want to hit this point home.

1438
01:02:57.726 --> 01:02:59.726
Please report anything you can to us.

1439
01:02:59.726 --> 01:03:01.726
The top one is CBP synthetic cell. We had

1440
01:03:01.726 --> 01:03:03.726
a picture of that earlier.

1441
01:03:03.726 --> 01:03:05.726
The 1-800-be-alert number. If you're in

1442
01:03:05.726 --> 01:03:07.726
the United States, that's the one to use

1443
01:03:07.726 --> 01:03:09.750
that's been in effect for many, many years

1444
01:03:10.154 --> 01:03:12.154
at this point.

1445
01:03:12.154 --> 01:03:14.541
That third bullet, if you're in CTPAT,

1446
01:03:14.541 --> 01:03:16.541
please notify your supply chain security

1447
01:03:16.541 --> 01:03:18.541
specialist as soon as possible and the

1448
01:03:18.541 --> 01:03:20.541
timing is important.

1449
01:03:20.541 --> 01:03:22.551
We usually say if this happens over the

1450
01:03:22.551 --> 01:03:24.551
weekend on a Friday, please do not wait

1451
01:03:24.551 --> 01:03:26.606
till Monday to report it, that's way too

1452
01:03:26.609 --> 01:03:28.609
much time in between.

1453
01:03:28.609 --> 01:03:30.826
And it's part of what you signed in the

1454
01:03:30.829 --> 01:03:33.461
agreement that you will notify us if you

1455
01:03:33.462 --> 01:03:35.765
find something, there's a breach in your

1456
01:03:35.766 --> 01:03:38.398
supply chain. So please, even if it's CBP

1457
01:03:38.399 --> 01:03:41.031
and it happens in the port, sometimes the

1458
01:03:41.032 --> 01:03:43.032
supply chain specialist is not notified.

1459
01:03:43.032 --> 01:03:45.688
Please, that is your job to reach out and

1460
01:03:45.692 --> 01:03:47.692
notify them.

1461
01:03:47.692 --> 01:03:49.692
>> Yeah.

1462
01:03:49.692 --> 01:03:51.692
Thanks, Mike.

1463
01:03:51.692 --> 01:03:54.095
And I'd like to point out also if you're

1464
01:03:54.095 --> 01:03:56.095
CTPAT, it's a requirement.

1465
01:03:56.095 --> 01:03:58.384
And even if you're not in CTPAT, it takes

1466
01:03:58.384 --> 01:04:00.384
the --

1467
01:04:00.384 --> 01:04:02.384
the guilt factor off of you, just report

1468
01:04:02.384 --> 01:04:04.384
it as soon as you can.

1469
01:04:04.384 --> 01:04:07.894
And so then in the future if you ever want

1470
01:04:07.894 --> 01:04:09.894
to be in CTPAT, you don't have that

1471
01:04:09.894 --> 01:04:11.985
hovering off you as a backdrop as a

1472
01:04:11.987 --> 01:04:13.987
company.

1473
01:04:13.987 --> 01:04:16.714
As Mike mentioned, there are those other

1474
01:04:16.714 --> 01:04:18.714
methods to report any suspicious activity.

1475
01:04:18.714 --> 01:04:21.004
Here's another one, report tips/illegal

1476
01:04:21.005 --> 01:04:23.164
activity at cbp.gov.

1477
01:04:23.166 --> 01:04:26.856
And that's a really good site that you can

1478
01:04:26.859 --> 01:04:29.319
report anonymously from anywhere in the

1479
01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:31.320
world, right.

1480
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:34.070
So those are good points of contact,

1481
01:04:34.070 --> 01:04:36.070
again, I recommend that you screenshot

1482
01:04:36.070 --> 01:04:38.738
this page or take a photo of it and use it

1483
01:04:39.562 --> 01:04:41.562
for your training.

1484
01:04:41.563 --> 01:04:44.797
Or even make a poster of this, it's great

1485
01:04:44.797 --> 01:04:47.943
to have these manners to report -- or

1486
01:04:47.949 --> 01:04:51.100
methods to report on a poster somewhere.

1487
01:04:51.357 --> 01:04:53.357
Okay.

1488
01:04:53.357 --> 01:04:55.907
So reporting incidents for CTPAT is

1489
01:04:55.907 --> 01:04:58.195
required, and even if you're not CTPAT,

1490
01:04:58.195 --> 01:05:01.170
your employees should know who to call,

1491
01:05:01.171 --> 01:05:04.571
who should do the reporting and how it

1492
01:05:04.571 --> 01:05:06.571
should happen.

1493
01:05:06.571 --> 01:05:09.658
The incidents must be reported to supply

1494
01:05:09.658 --> 01:05:11.658
chain security specialist for CTPAT and

1495
01:05:11.658 --> 01:05:13.658
law enforcement locally.

1496
01:05:13.658 --> 01:05:15.658
And we are most recently asked, what if

1497
01:05:15.658 --> 01:05:18.692
you're at the port, what should we do?

1498
01:05:18.742 --> 01:05:21.577
We can't have the trucker make contact

1499
01:05:21.577 --> 01:05:24.007
while they're driving and that's something

1500
01:05:24.008 --> 01:05:27.248
that you should bring up with the local

1501
01:05:27.248 --> 01:05:29.678
ports that you're coming through when

1502
01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:31.679
something does take place.

1503
01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:33.863
Okay, Mike, two more slide, we're almost

1504
01:05:33.863 --> 01:05:35.863
done.

1505
01:05:35.863 --> 01:05:37.863
>> All right.

1506
01:05:37.863 --> 01:05:39.863
We like to kind of wind it down with

1507
01:05:39.863 --> 01:05:43.282
safety, if it actually is encountered.

1508
01:05:43.337 --> 01:05:45.681
Please train the people on the ground, the

1509
01:05:45.681 --> 01:05:47.725
ones who load the cargo, inspect the

1510
01:05:47.728 --> 01:05:49.776
cargo. They may come in contact and

1511
01:05:49.776 --> 01:05:51.776
physical contact with these deadly

1512
01:05:51.776 --> 01:05:53.776
opioids. And we're talking about domestic

1513
01:05:53.776 --> 01:05:55.776
and foreign as well.

1514
01:05:55.776 --> 01:05:57.776
Train to know the signs of a possible

1515
01:05:57.776 --> 01:05:59.775
exposure.

1516
01:05:59.775 --> 01:06:03.063
We know that it's dilated pupils, we know

1517
01:06:03.063 --> 01:06:05.063
that people become very lethargic,

1518
01:06:05.063 --> 01:06:07.063
breathing is slowed down, it slows down to

1519
01:06:07.063 --> 01:06:09.063
almost ten breaths a minute, so extremely

1520
01:06:09.063 --> 01:06:11.063
slow.

1521
01:06:11.063 --> 01:06:13.063
Blue-colored skin and fingernails actually

1522
01:06:13.063 --> 01:06:15.063
can happen as well.

1523
01:06:15.063 --> 01:06:17.063
Please have naloxone available, the brand

1524
01:06:17.063 --> 01:06:19.063
name is Narcan, n-a-r-c-a-n, and have it

1525
01:06:19.063 --> 01:06:21.175
near the loading areas where it might map

1526
01:06:21.177 --> 01:06:23.619
so they're ready to administer it.

1527
01:06:23.621 --> 01:06:26.375
Don't have it in a drawer where they have

1528
01:06:26.375 --> 01:06:29.128
to look for it, it should be right there

1529
01:06:29.128 --> 01:06:31.128
on the loading docks.

1530
01:06:31.128 --> 01:06:33.128
George and I both took Narcan training,

1531
01:06:33.128 --> 01:06:35.128
easy to do.

1532
01:06:35.128 --> 01:06:37.498
Look it up in your local place, you'll be

1533
01:06:37.498 --> 01:06:39.498
able to do it online so that you know how

1534
01:06:39.498 --> 01:06:41.498
to administer it as well.

1535
01:06:41.498 --> 01:06:43.498
Again, toxicity occurs through the skin or

1536
01:06:43.498 --> 01:06:45.498
by breathing it in.

1537
01:06:45.498 --> 01:06:47.498
It is not simply by being near it.

1538
01:06:47.498 --> 01:06:49.498
And the K-9s that George mentioned in the

1539
01:06:49.498 --> 01:06:51.498
mail branch there, less likely to be

1540
01:06:51.498 --> 01:06:53.498
harmed.

1541
01:06:53.498 --> 01:06:55.498
There is Narcan or K-9s available, but

1542
01:06:55.498 --> 01:06:57.598
these K-nines are trained not to go deeply

1543
01:06:58.875 --> 01:07:04.104
into it. They pick up the scent and sit

1544
01:07:04.107 --> 01:07:06.431
and point to it.

1545
01:07:06.432 --> 01:07:08.432
George.

1546
01:07:08.432 --> 01:07:10.691
>> That's good to know about the safety of

1547
01:07:10.691 --> 01:07:12.691
dogs. When we were talking a saw with that

1548
01:07:12.691 --> 01:07:14.691
was one of the questions that came in that

1549
01:07:14.691 --> 01:07:16.691
said that, yeah, I hope the dogs are

1550
01:07:16.691 --> 01:07:18.691
trained somehow and they shouldn't be

1551
01:07:18.691 --> 01:07:20.691
smelling for Fentanyl.

1552
01:07:20.691 --> 01:07:22.691
Okay, more on skin contact.

1553
01:07:22.691 --> 01:07:24.691
This is the last slide, I know you all

1554
01:07:24.691 --> 01:07:26.691
have to go.

1555
01:07:26.691 --> 01:07:28.691
So during COVID we learned a lot about the

1556
01:07:28.691 --> 01:07:30.691
PP personal safety products, right?

1557
01:07:30.691 --> 01:07:32.691
Gloves and masks and goggles.

1558
01:07:32.691 --> 01:07:36.083
And those are -- are very effective

1559
01:07:36.363 --> 01:07:39.656
against protecting people or cargo

1560
01:07:39.657 --> 01:07:42.291
inspections personnel from getting

1561
01:07:42.292 --> 01:07:44.292
exposed.

1562
01:07:44.292 --> 01:07:46.551
But, if you do for whatever reason get --

1563
01:07:46.822 --> 01:07:49.969
encounter a skin exposure, the first thing

1564
01:07:49.970 --> 01:07:54.017
that you're not going to do is use this,

1565
01:07:54.017 --> 01:07:56.017
hand sanitizer.

1566
01:07:56.017 --> 01:07:58.017
That's got -- that's alcohol-based.

1567
01:07:58.017 --> 01:08:00.044
Because it will open up the pores and

1568
01:08:00.044 --> 01:08:02.044
could be dangerous.

1569
01:08:02.044 --> 01:08:04.417
If you don't have gloves on, right, or you

1570
01:08:04.417 --> 01:08:06.944
contact any other part of your -- your

1571
01:08:06.946 --> 01:08:08.946
body exposed skin.

1572
01:08:08.946 --> 01:08:11.352
So that's the one thing that I learned

1573
01:08:11.352 --> 01:08:13.352
taking on this project.

1574
01:08:13.352 --> 01:08:15.352
And the other thing that I learned is that

1575
01:08:15.352 --> 01:08:17.527
you should always have two people present

1576
01:08:17.656 --> 01:08:20.432
in the event that one of the security

1577
01:08:20.435 --> 01:08:22.864
personnel or searchers or whoever comes in

1578
01:08:22.866 --> 01:08:24.948
contact with it falls unconscious, they

1579
01:08:24.950 --> 01:08:27.032
need somebody else to administer the

1580
01:08:27.034 --> 01:08:29.034
Narcan.

1581
01:08:29.034 --> 01:08:32.259
So that's very important to understand.

1582
01:08:32.259 --> 01:08:34.599
Well, there's a video, but I don't know if

1583
01:08:34.599 --> 01:08:36.927
we have -- I don't think we have time to

1584
01:08:36.931 --> 01:08:38.931
run that.

1585
01:08:38.931 --> 01:08:40.931
But thank you very much.

1586
01:08:40.931 --> 01:08:44.343
That concludes our presentation.

1587
01:08:44.343 --> 01:08:46.913
We've got a QR Code here if you'd like

1588
01:08:48.585 --> 01:08:51.870
additional information of the Fentanyl

1589
01:08:51.872 --> 01:08:53.872
smuggling problem.

1590
01:08:53.873 --> 01:08:55.873
And what CBP is doing about it.

1591
01:08:55.873 --> 01:08:58.848
So you've got a lot of QR codes and a lot

1592
01:08:58.851 --> 01:09:00.851
of ways to contact us.

1593
01:09:00.851 --> 01:09:04.687
Here's our email addresses, Mike's and

1594
01:09:04.691 --> 01:09:06.691
myself.

1595
01:09:06.691 --> 01:09:08.737
If you have any questions, let us know

1596
01:09:08.737 --> 01:09:12.097
after this or if we could take some

1597
01:09:12.098 --> 01:09:14.098
questions now.

1598
01:09:14.098 --> 01:09:16.098
Chrissi.

1599
01:09:16.098 --> 01:09:18.098
>> Yes.

1600
01:09:18.098 --> 01:09:20.606
I have a few that we can try to -- we have

1601
01:09:20.606 --> 01:09:22.606
a lot, actually, but we can try to get

1602
01:09:22.606 --> 01:09:24.606
through as much as we can.

1603
01:09:24.606 --> 01:09:26.606
>> Okay.

1604
01:09:26.606 --> 01:09:28.606
>> So the first question we have is what

1605
01:09:28.606 --> 01:09:30.606
are the government's south of the border

1606
01:09:30.606 --> 01:09:32.606
where the Fentanyl is coming from doing to

1607
01:09:32.606 --> 01:09:34.606
assist in combating this crisis?

1608
01:09:34.606 --> 01:09:36.606
>> Ooh, that's a very big question.

1609
01:09:36.606 --> 01:09:38.606
I don't think I have -- you said the

1610
01:09:38.606 --> 01:09:40.606
question was south of the border?

1611
01:09:40.686 --> 01:09:42.686
Well, we --

1612
01:09:42.686 --> 01:09:44.686
>> Yes.

1613
01:09:44.686 --> 01:09:48.846
>> If it's south of the border, we're

1614
01:09:48.846 --> 01:09:50.846
working very closely with the Mexican

1615
01:09:50.846 --> 01:09:53.076
government on all types of drug smuggling

1616
01:09:53.077 --> 01:09:55.157
issues all the time.

1617
01:09:55.158 --> 01:09:59.595
But then, you know, it's a matter of are

1618
01:09:59.596 --> 01:10:04.033
you going to stop the flow of trade coming

1619
01:10:04.034 --> 01:10:06.499
in or slow it down?

1620
01:10:06.499 --> 01:10:08.944
Because you can't open everything.

1621
01:10:08.946 --> 01:10:13.226
And so their efforts, I'm not really sure

1622
01:10:13.226 --> 01:10:16.958
at what level they're able to assist

1623
01:10:16.964 --> 01:10:20.169
anymore than we already communicate back

1624
01:10:20.171 --> 01:10:23.915
and forth with drug smuggling trends and

1625
01:10:23.916 --> 01:10:28.190
the unified efforts on their side of the

1626
01:10:28.190 --> 01:10:31.926
border also to stop or prevent narcotics

1627
01:10:31.931 --> 01:10:35.138
from entering the United States by

1628
01:10:35.139 --> 01:10:38.344
pre-examining cargo on the other side's

1629
01:10:38.345 --> 01:10:40.345
preclearance efforts also.

1630
01:10:40.345 --> 01:10:42.971
CSI efforts and other governments around

1631
01:10:42.974 --> 01:10:45.997
the globe where we prescreen containers

1632
01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:49.528
that before they're even loaded on a

1633
01:10:49.530 --> 01:10:53.058
vessel to come to the United States.

1634
01:10:53.060 --> 01:10:57.652
So there's many CBP efforts along or in

1635
01:10:57.656 --> 01:11:01.674
unison with many governments, not just the

1636
01:11:01.677 --> 01:11:05.121
southwest border, but with the screen

1637
01:11:05.124 --> 01:11:07.124
efforts.

1638
01:11:07.124 --> 01:11:09.476
We're, woulding with TSA abroad that are

1639
01:11:09.476 --> 01:11:11.476
being hosted by other governments and

1640
01:11:11.476 --> 01:11:13.476
other customs organizations.

1641
01:11:13.476 --> 01:11:15.625
We work very closely with our AEO, our MRA

1642
01:11:15.629 --> 01:11:18.665
mutually recognized countries that we deem

1643
01:11:18.666 --> 01:11:22.714
that they're level of security is equal to

1644
01:11:22.717 --> 01:11:26.765
or even greater in some cases than what

1645
01:11:26.767 --> 01:11:30.309
the CTPAT program or U.S. Customs and

1646
01:11:30.311 --> 01:11:33.853
Border Protection is doing to screen cargo

1647
01:11:33.855 --> 01:11:36.891
through x-rays and other measures, minimum

1648
01:11:36.892 --> 01:11:38.892
security criteria.

1649
01:11:38.892 --> 01:11:41.171
So Mike, do you have anything that you

1650
01:11:41.171 --> 01:11:43.171
want to add that may be specific to

1651
01:11:43.171 --> 01:11:45.171
Mexico?

1652
01:11:45.171 --> 01:11:47.252
>> Yeah, I can't get too specific, but we

1653
01:11:47.252 --> 01:11:49.252
know that they do share information with

1654
01:11:49.252 --> 01:11:52.114
us, and that is why our operations when we

1655
01:11:52.423 --> 01:11:55.131
target that in the southwest border are

1656
01:11:55.131 --> 01:11:57.450
that successful, because they are sharing

1657
01:11:57.451 --> 01:11:59.451
information with us.

1658
01:11:59.451 --> 01:12:02.187
And you know, recently we worked with

1659
01:12:02.187 --> 01:12:04.187
China on the precursor chemicals and

1660
01:12:04.187 --> 01:12:06.437
they've really cracked down on that as

1661
01:12:06.441 --> 01:12:08.441
well.

1662
01:12:08.441 --> 01:12:10.441
>> Right.

1663
01:12:10.441 --> 01:12:12.536
>> As that happens, we see that flow

1664
01:12:12.536 --> 01:12:14.536
moving to other countries such as India

1665
01:12:14.536 --> 01:12:16.536
right now.

1666
01:12:16.536 --> 01:12:18.536
So it does affect it when we do work with

1667
01:12:18.536 --> 01:12:20.536
these countries, but we just have to be

1668
01:12:20.536 --> 01:12:22.536
aware when they know we're looking at

1669
01:12:22.536 --> 01:12:24.536
something, they move the operations to

1670
01:12:24.536 --> 01:12:26.536
another country.

1671
01:12:26.536 --> 01:12:28.536
>> Yeah.

1672
01:12:28.536 --> 01:12:30.536
I hope that answered the -- the question.

1673
01:12:30.536 --> 01:12:32.536
Any other questions?

1674
01:12:32.536 --> 01:12:34.536
Chrissi.

1675
01:12:34.536 --> 01:12:36.536
>> Yeah.

1676
01:12:36.536 --> 01:12:38.536
One, can you switch to the next slide so

1677
01:12:38.536 --> 01:12:40.536
you can also show the CCS credits?

1678
01:12:40.536 --> 01:12:42.536
>> Oh, okay.

1679
01:12:42.536 --> 01:12:44.536
Perfect.

1680
01:12:44.536 --> 01:12:46.536
I forgot.

1681
01:12:46.536 --> 01:12:48.536
>> Thank you.

1682
01:12:48.536 --> 01:12:50.536
>> Yeah, we're always updating this

1683
01:12:50.536 --> 01:12:52.536
PowerPoint and it's hard to keep track as

1684
01:12:52.536 --> 01:12:54.536
time passes, you know.

1685
01:12:54.536 --> 01:12:56.536
>> I know.

1686
01:12:56.536 --> 01:12:58.536
Next question, if Mexican drugs -- if

1687
01:12:58.536 --> 01:13:00.536
Mexican drug cartels were identified as

1688
01:13:00.536 --> 01:13:02.536
terrorist groups by the U.S.

1689
01:13:02.536 --> 01:13:04.536
Government, do you see any positive change

1690
01:13:04.536 --> 01:13:06.536
on the war against drugs?

1691
01:13:06.536 --> 01:13:08.536
>> That's another -- that's a big

1692
01:13:08.536 --> 01:13:10.536
question.

1693
01:13:10.536 --> 01:13:12.799
I would say it's difficult because as soon

1694
01:13:12.799 --> 01:13:14.799
as you take down one organization, another

1695
01:13:14.799 --> 01:13:16.799
one will pop up because of the demand.

1696
01:13:16.799 --> 01:13:18.799
There's money to be made.

1697
01:13:18.799 --> 01:13:21.983
So I would say you might have a lull in

1698
01:13:22.564 --> 01:13:25.512
the importations of these substances, but

1699
01:13:25.514 --> 01:13:29.938
as long as there is a demand, it's an

1700
01:13:29.939 --> 01:13:31.939
ongoing battle.

1701
01:13:31.939 --> 01:13:33.939
That's my thought on it.

1702
01:13:33.939 --> 01:13:36.554
But that's a very big question.

1703
01:13:36.555 --> 01:13:40.300
I would say definitely you would have

1704
01:13:40.300 --> 01:13:42.972
something happen, you know, obviously,

1705
01:13:42.973 --> 01:13:46.181
because then you'll have more efforts

1706
01:13:46.182 --> 01:13:49.392
towards stopping those type of movement

1707
01:13:49.392 --> 01:13:53.669
coming in, I would think, would maybe be

1708
01:13:53.670 --> 01:13:57.947
more intense, more funds. But that's a big

1709
01:13:57.948 --> 01:13:59.947
one.

1710
01:13:59.948 --> 01:14:02.167
>> It would probably just shift to some

1711
01:14:02.168 --> 01:14:04.168
organization that hasn't been designated.

1712
01:14:04.168 --> 01:14:06.168
>> There we go.

1713
01:14:06.168 --> 01:14:08.168
Yeah.

1714
01:14:08.168 --> 01:14:10.378
>> There's just so much money to make with

1715
01:14:10.378 --> 01:14:12.378
this Fentanyl especially, that you know,

1716
01:14:12.378 --> 01:14:14.378
the problem is United States has a huge

1717
01:14:14.378 --> 01:14:16.378
appetite for drug consumption in general.

1718
01:14:16.378 --> 01:14:18.378
So it's going to be hard [away from mic].

1719
01:14:18.378 --> 01:14:20.378
>> Exactly.

1720
01:14:20.378 --> 01:14:22.378
>> I mean some of the latest trends we're

1721
01:14:22.378 --> 01:14:25.089
seeing now is that they -- me and George

1722
01:14:25.249 --> 01:14:28.277
had a call recently that they found 26

1723
01:14:28.278 --> 01:14:30.552
domestic pill press operations in the

1724
01:14:30.553 --> 01:14:32.553
United States, right?

1725
01:14:32.553 --> 01:14:35.074
So that's a scary thought that this threat

1726
01:14:35.074 --> 01:14:37.431
is growing is why we wanted to push this

1727
01:14:37.432 --> 01:14:40.407
out, and we've been doing it 30 times now

1728
01:14:40.408 --> 01:14:42.408
since probably early December.

1729
01:14:42.408 --> 01:14:44.408
This is a big problem.

1730
01:14:44.408 --> 01:14:46.812
So if we can just disrupt the supply chain

1731
01:14:46.813 --> 01:14:49.438
somehow, you could really, you know, save

1732
01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:51.439
a lot of lives.

1733
01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:56.024
>> That's a good point. So then when it

1734
01:14:56.024 --> 01:14:58.838
shifts to a domestic-making manufacturing

1735
01:14:58.845 --> 01:15:02.793
issue, then that's -- how do you control

1736
01:15:02.795 --> 01:15:04.795
that.

1737
01:15:04.795 --> 01:15:06.795
So that's another -- that's a very big

1738
01:15:06.795 --> 01:15:08.795
question.

1739
01:15:08.795 --> 01:15:10.795
Let's move to another.

1740
01:15:10.795 --> 01:15:12.795
>> Okay.

1741
01:15:12.795 --> 01:15:17.084
Next question, how many of these shipments

1742
01:15:17.084 --> 01:15:19.084
are diminimus shipments versus FCL or LCL

1743
01:15:19.084 --> 01:15:21.084
shipments?

1744
01:15:21.084 --> 01:15:23.084
>> From what I understand, the majority is

1745
01:15:23.084 --> 01:15:25.084
the master carton.

1746
01:15:25.084 --> 01:15:27.084
Right now just because of the ease and

1747
01:15:27.084 --> 01:15:29.084
the -- anybody from anywhere in the U.S.

1748
01:15:29.084 --> 01:15:31.084
could be there in their bedroom and

1749
01:15:31.084 --> 01:15:33.084
ordering the shipments online.

1750
01:15:33.084 --> 01:15:35.084
And that's why the DEA has gone after some

1751
01:15:35.084 --> 01:15:37.084
of these -- these entities that are

1752
01:15:37.084 --> 01:15:39.189
setting up the websites that make it so

1753
01:15:39.192 --> 01:15:41.509
easy for people to order from home.

1754
01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:45.688
And then these packages are coming in and

1755
01:15:45.688 --> 01:15:47.729
with very vague descriptions.

1756
01:15:47.731 --> 01:15:51.052
And so I don't have those stats, but from

1757
01:15:51.055 --> 01:15:53.638
what I understand, that's the majority in

1758
01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:55.640
huge volumes.

1759
01:15:55.640 --> 01:15:57.802
And just nonstop.

1760
01:15:57.802 --> 01:16:00.567
When I was -- I was in Miami earlier last

1761
01:16:01.827 --> 01:16:05.349
year and toward the -- the international

1762
01:16:05.350 --> 01:16:07.350
mail facility there.

1763
01:16:08.095 --> 01:16:10.331
It was just coming in while I was there.

1764
01:16:10.571 --> 01:16:12.741
And they were -- the officers were opening

1765
01:16:12.741 --> 01:16:14.741
up the packages.

1766
01:16:14.741 --> 01:16:16.741
I just thought that's crazy, they just

1767
01:16:16.741 --> 01:16:18.796
happened to be here and that's the volume

1768
01:16:18.797 --> 01:16:20.797
that we're experiencing, it's just huge

1769
01:16:20.797 --> 01:16:23.006
amounts and it just doesn't ever stop.

1770
01:16:23.008 --> 01:16:25.775
Mike, did you experience -- I know you

1771
01:16:25.776 --> 01:16:27.776
went to the JFK location.

1772
01:16:28.044 --> 01:16:30.044
Was that --

1773
01:16:30.044 --> 01:16:33.120
>> I mean, we know that the amount of

1774
01:16:33.120 --> 01:16:35.120
shipments will be larger and de minimis,

1775
01:16:35.120 --> 01:16:37.120
right?

1776
01:16:37.120 --> 01:16:39.120
There's going to be a lot of shipments.

1777
01:16:39.120 --> 01:16:41.120
But they could turn around and send one

1778
01:16:41.120 --> 01:16:43.120
over the southwest border in a huge

1779
01:16:43.120 --> 01:16:45.120
tractor trailer.

1780
01:16:45.120 --> 01:16:47.120
>> Yeah.

1781
01:16:47.120 --> 01:16:49.120
>> So it's a strange -- you know, you

1782
01:16:49.120 --> 01:16:51.120
can't just look at it that way, right?

1783
01:16:51.120 --> 01:16:53.120
It only takes a small amount to do extreme

1784
01:16:53.120 --> 01:16:55.120
harm, is why they keep shipping it in the

1785
01:16:55.120 --> 01:16:57.120
mail.

1786
01:16:57.120 --> 01:16:59.120
And it's easier.

1787
01:16:59.120 --> 01:17:01.120
But we catch it all the time in bigger

1788
01:17:01.120 --> 01:17:03.120
loads coming over.

1789
01:17:03.120 --> 01:17:05.120
A lot of times in personal vehicles, POVs

1790
01:17:05.120 --> 01:17:07.120
coming over the southwest border.

1791
01:17:07.120 --> 01:17:09.120
But as you saw the picture of that sink,

1792
01:17:09.120 --> 01:17:11.120
900,000 pills, again --

1793
01:17:11.120 --> 01:17:13.120
>> Exactly.

1794
01:17:13.120 --> 01:17:15.150
>> -- talking about weight verse number of

1795
01:17:15.150 --> 01:17:17.150
shipments, it won't --

1796
01:17:17.150 --> 01:17:19.150
>> And then the potency.

1797
01:17:19.150 --> 01:17:21.150
So if they get those smaller packages but

1798
01:17:21.150 --> 01:17:24.168
in huge volumes, I mean, they could cut or

1799
01:17:24.324 --> 01:17:27.283
taint other drugs as we've been seeing and

1800
01:17:27.284 --> 01:17:29.284
mentioned in this PowerPoint with

1801
01:17:29.284 --> 01:17:31.284
marijuana.

1802
01:17:31.284 --> 01:17:34.371
We understand with cocaine. They use less

1803
01:17:34.371 --> 01:17:36.371
of the cocaine because the Fentanyl is

1804
01:17:36.371 --> 01:17:38.508
more powerful and they need less of it.

1805
01:17:39.203 --> 01:17:41.203
So then they have --

1806
01:17:41.203 --> 01:17:45.479
they don't need to use as much cocaine and

1807
01:17:45.750 --> 01:17:49.350
they're tainting other narcotics or party

1808
01:17:49.350 --> 01:17:51.350
drugs.

1809
01:17:51.350 --> 01:17:53.350
Next.

1810
01:17:53.350 --> 01:17:57.016
Any others?

1811
01:17:57.016 --> 01:17:59.016
Questions?

1812
01:17:59.016 --> 01:18:01.016
>> Yes.

1813
01:18:01.016 --> 01:18:03.016
Let's see.

1814
01:18:03.016 --> 01:18:05.016
Should the scientific name be listed for

1815
01:18:05.016 --> 01:18:09.470
items on the airway bill or is just plants

1816
01:18:10.128 --> 01:18:12.128
okay?

1817
01:18:12.128 --> 01:18:14.128
>> Plants?

1818
01:18:14.128 --> 01:18:16.128
>> Plants.

1819
01:18:16.128 --> 01:18:19.048
It says I believe plants is too vague.

1820
01:18:19.048 --> 01:18:21.048
I'm not sure what slide that came off of.

1821
01:18:21.048 --> 01:18:23.554
>> Oh, I don't know. I know that on the

1822
01:18:23.909 --> 01:18:25.909
master carton smuggling slide it just

1823
01:18:25.909 --> 01:18:27.907
says --

1824
01:18:27.907 --> 01:18:30.871
to me, I would think plants --

1825
01:18:30.871 --> 01:18:32.871
it's pretty -- pretty vague.

1826
01:18:33.141 --> 01:18:35.689
So maybe more specific depending on maybe

1827
01:18:35.690 --> 01:18:39.330
the type or tree or bush or the color or

1828
01:18:39.331 --> 01:18:41.331
something.

1829
01:18:41.331 --> 01:18:44.523
But that -- I think they're just saying --

1830
01:18:44.523 --> 01:18:46.523
because I don't think I referenced plants,

1831
01:18:46.523 --> 01:18:49.285
I think I just referenced the pill punch,

1832
01:18:49.728 --> 01:18:53.376
the chunks of metal is what they were

1833
01:18:53.377 --> 01:18:55.657
calling metal pieces coming in.

1834
01:18:55.882 --> 01:18:58.297
And they're pill punches for the presses.

1835
01:18:58.297 --> 01:19:00.893
So maybe more specific, just stating

1836
01:19:00.893 --> 01:19:03.917
exactly what it is you're bringing in.

1837
01:19:03.921 --> 01:19:06.199
>> In general, when you're an officer like

1838
01:19:06.200 --> 01:19:08.480
me and George are, the day starts where

1839
01:19:08.481 --> 01:19:11.046
they give you a bunch of shipments to go

1840
01:19:11.047 --> 01:19:13.047
take a look at in a warehouse.

1841
01:19:13.047 --> 01:19:15.450
A lot of times it's targeted just because

1842
01:19:15.454 --> 01:19:17.454
that description is vague.

1843
01:19:17.454 --> 01:19:19.454
Like just said plants.

1844
01:19:19.454 --> 01:19:21.542
If you want to save yourself time, money,

1845
01:19:21.542 --> 01:19:23.542
energy, you're going to want to give a

1846
01:19:23.542 --> 01:19:25.542
better description than that.

1847
01:19:25.542 --> 01:19:27.542
>> Yeah, maybe the type, the size, the

1848
01:19:27.542 --> 01:19:29.542
weight, all the descriptors of a plant.

1849
01:19:29.542 --> 01:19:31.542
There's small plants, medium size plant,

1850
01:19:31.542 --> 01:19:33.542
where did it come from.

1851
01:19:33.542 --> 01:19:35.948
All details, don't leave any blanks in the

1852
01:19:36.166 --> 01:19:38.166
descriptions, because that's another one.

1853
01:19:38.166 --> 01:19:44.149
You leave items blank and then you've got

1854
01:19:44.151 --> 01:19:46.151
a violation.

1855
01:19:46.151 --> 01:19:48.151
Okay.

1856
01:19:48.151 --> 01:19:50.151
>> Okay.

1857
01:19:50.151 --> 01:19:52.151
>> Next.

1858
01:19:52.151 --> 01:19:55.319
>> Next question is CBP utilizing AI at

1859
01:19:55.319 --> 01:19:57.319
the border to help with search?

1860
01:19:57.319 --> 01:19:59.319
>> I think that's --

1861
01:19:59.319 --> 01:20:01.319
>> I'll jump in, George.

1862
01:20:01.319 --> 01:20:03.319
>> Yeah.

1863
01:20:03.319 --> 01:20:05.319
>> I know I work at JFK and I know that

1864
01:20:05.319 --> 01:20:07.319
they are. Any have two systems that

1865
01:20:07.319 --> 01:20:09.319
they've just put in the mail facility and

1866
01:20:09.319 --> 01:20:11.319
they're adding a third system that does

1867
01:20:11.319 --> 01:20:13.319
have to do with AI and catching these

1868
01:20:13.319 --> 01:20:15.319
opioid and Fentanyl.

1869
01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:17.319
So that I know they are doing in the mail

1870
01:20:17.319 --> 01:20:19.319
branches.

1871
01:20:19.319 --> 01:20:21.319
As far as at the physical borders and the

1872
01:20:21.319 --> 01:20:23.319
southwest border, I'm not positive right

1873
01:20:23.319 --> 01:20:25.319
now.

1874
01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:27.319
>> Yeah, that's -- that's the trend,

1875
01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:29.319
because as we all know, the number and the

1876
01:20:29.319 --> 01:20:31.319
volumes of shipments that we've talked

1877
01:20:31.319 --> 01:20:33.319
about and that you saw on this PowerPoint

1878
01:20:33.319 --> 01:20:35.319
are huge amounts.

1879
01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:37.319
It's impossible to have the staffing, the

1880
01:20:37.319 --> 01:20:39.319
resources, or the time to go through all

1881
01:20:39.319 --> 01:20:41.319
those packages without totally stopping

1882
01:20:41.319 --> 01:20:43.319
trade and life in America and the world as

1883
01:20:43.319 --> 01:20:45.319
we know it.

1884
01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:48.629
So the only way to do it is to computerize

1885
01:20:48.846 --> 01:20:52.158
all this and have it done rapidly.

1886
01:20:52.163 --> 01:20:56.111
But again, AI is what it is at this

1887
01:20:56.111 --> 01:20:59.617
moment, might not be perfect, so of course

1888
01:20:59.620 --> 01:21:03.130
that was one of the recommendations that I

1889
01:21:03.130 --> 01:21:06.640
was on the air cargo workgroup and last

1890
01:21:06.641 --> 01:21:10.589
year and I was listening and that's what a

1891
01:21:10.589 --> 01:21:13.219
lot of carriers recommended because of

1892
01:21:13.221 --> 01:21:16.731
course you could take care of the not

1893
01:21:16.731 --> 01:21:20.241
really examination part of it, but try to

1894
01:21:20.242 --> 01:21:22.874
focus your targeting on packages that

1895
01:21:22.875 --> 01:21:25.943
maybe look more like drugs instead of

1896
01:21:25.945 --> 01:21:28.138
bananas or something like that.

1897
01:21:28.139 --> 01:21:30.699
So, but it takes time to build those --

1898
01:21:30.699 --> 01:21:32.699
that type of machinery.

1899
01:21:32.699 --> 01:21:36.705
We have it, but I understand it's still

1900
01:21:36.776 --> 01:21:38.776
being worked on.

1901
01:21:38.776 --> 01:21:40.776
Next.

1902
01:21:40.776 --> 01:21:42.776
>> Okay.

1903
01:21:42.776 --> 01:21:44.776
We -- looks like we have time for one more

1904
01:21:44.776 --> 01:21:46.776
question.

1905
01:21:46.776 --> 01:21:48.786
>> Okay.

1906
01:21:48.786 --> 01:21:50.786
>> It says here do K-9 inspections on the

1907
01:21:50.786 --> 01:21:52.786
Mexican border work?

1908
01:21:52.786 --> 01:21:54.786
Does CBP recognize those points of

1909
01:21:54.786 --> 01:21:56.786
inspection?

1910
01:21:56.786 --> 01:21:58.786
And do I have to ask for something such as

1911
01:21:58.786 --> 01:22:00.786
a permit or are they fake?

1912
01:22:00.786 --> 01:22:04.870
>> I don't -- I don't think CBP recognizes

1913
01:22:05.059 --> 01:22:08.958
K-9 inspections on the Mexican side or

1914
01:22:08.961 --> 01:22:11.746
even on the U.S. side.

1915
01:22:13.517 --> 01:22:15.517
But CBP -- well, depends.

1916
01:22:15.978 --> 01:22:19.256
CTPAT we look at K-9 inspection services

1917
01:22:19.297 --> 01:22:23.563
on the Mexican side or on the U.S. side

1918
01:22:23.565 --> 01:22:26.883
because in some cases, the supply chains

1919
01:22:26.884 --> 01:22:28.884
have both.

1920
01:22:28.884 --> 01:22:32.467
So CTPAT might consider it as one of the

1921
01:22:32.467 --> 01:22:36.072
best practices that you have K-9 specific

1922
01:22:36.072 --> 01:22:39.161
to Fentanyl identification or any other

1923
01:22:39.161 --> 01:22:42.250
opioids or narcotics or contraband, which

1924
01:22:42.251 --> 01:22:45.856
are there's many other things that K-9s

1925
01:22:45.856 --> 01:22:47.856
can identify.

1926
01:22:47.856 --> 01:22:50.808
So it's definitely something that sticks

1927
01:22:50.808 --> 01:22:53.280
out. Would you consider that a best

1928
01:22:53.280 --> 01:22:55.280
practice, Mike?

1929
01:22:55.281 --> 01:22:57.281
>> Yeah.

1930
01:22:57.281 --> 01:22:59.444
What happens is if something were to

1931
01:22:59.444 --> 01:23:01.444
happen with one of your shipments where we

1932
01:23:01.444 --> 01:23:03.444
found some narcotics or anything, we would

1933
01:23:03.444 --> 01:23:05.444
go back and do a little bit of an

1934
01:23:05.444 --> 01:23:07.444
investigation.

1935
01:23:07.444 --> 01:23:09.699
And if you were able to tell us, well, we

1936
01:23:09.699 --> 01:23:11.699
have these K-9s that we have as part of

1937
01:23:11.699 --> 01:23:13.699
our supply chain and they one through our

1938
01:23:13.699 --> 01:23:15.699
cargo, that looks good on your side that

1939
01:23:15.699 --> 01:23:18.017
you did, you know, as much as you possibly

1940
01:23:18.020 --> 01:23:20.020
could do.

1941
01:23:20.020 --> 01:23:22.387
It's never going to be 100% full proof,

1942
01:23:22.387 --> 01:23:24.387
but that would look good.

1943
01:23:24.387 --> 01:23:26.387
And if something were to happen, we'd take

1944
01:23:26.387 --> 01:23:28.387
that into credit and try to get you back

1945
01:23:28.387 --> 01:23:30.387
into the program as quick as possible is

1946
01:23:30.387 --> 01:23:32.387
one way to look at it.

1947
01:23:32.387 --> 01:23:34.387
>> Exactly.

1948
01:23:34.387 --> 01:23:36.387
That's if you're CTPAT. Then if you're

1949
01:23:36.387 --> 01:23:38.387
not, in terms of fines and penalties, an

1950
01:23:38.387 --> 01:23:40.387
investigation is taken -- well, at least

1951
01:23:40.387 --> 01:23:42.683
for CTPAT. Regarding fines and penalty,

1952
01:23:42.840 --> 01:23:46.320
they say we're looking at what you did.

1953
01:23:46.524 --> 01:23:50.935
So if you say yeah, you had a K-9 and that

1954
01:23:50.935 --> 01:23:53.338
assisted in locating this contraband and

1955
01:23:53.340 --> 01:23:56.146
then unfortunately when it hits our port

1956
01:23:56.146 --> 01:23:59.354
of entry and we seize your conveyance or

1957
01:23:59.354 --> 01:24:02.159
your -- your goods and then, you know,

1958
01:24:02.159 --> 01:24:05.367
anything that you could say that you tried

1959
01:24:05.367 --> 01:24:08.975
and you did your due diligence to try and

1960
01:24:08.975 --> 01:24:11.380
do something about, instead of doing

1961
01:24:11.381 --> 01:24:13.787
nothing, and as Mike said, yeah,

1962
01:24:13.787 --> 01:24:16.190
definitely it's how it looks, right?

1963
01:24:16.525 --> 01:24:18.525
So all right.

1964
01:24:18.525 --> 01:24:20.525
Well thank you, everybody.

1965
01:24:20.525 --> 01:24:22.708
I think that was our last question that

1966
01:24:22.712 --> 01:24:25.186
we're going to entertain today.

1967
01:24:25.190 --> 01:24:27.430
And really appreciate everybody that

1968
01:24:27.430 --> 01:24:31.459
logged in and stuck with us all the way

1969
01:24:31.460 --> 01:24:33.460
till the end.

1970
01:24:33.460 --> 01:24:35.460
Thank you.

1971
01:24:35.460 --> 01:24:37.460
Mike, any --

1972
01:24:37.460 --> 01:24:39.460
>> Thanks, all.

1973
01:24:39.460 --> 01:24:41.498
Again, we want to -- we definitely want to

1974
01:24:41.498 --> 01:24:43.497
do the opposite of CTPAT with the supply

1975
01:24:43.498 --> 01:24:45.498
chain.

1976
01:24:45.498 --> 01:24:47.498
We want to break the supply chain.

1977
01:24:47.498 --> 01:24:49.498
We want to disrupt this supply chain and

1978
01:24:49.498 --> 01:24:51.498
just please keep it in the back of your

1979
01:24:51.498 --> 01:24:53.498
head that it's really not just about your

1980
01:24:53.498 --> 01:24:55.497
cargo, it's about your communities.

1981
01:24:55.498 --> 01:24:57.497
This is killing people, killing young

1982
01:24:57.498 --> 01:24:59.497
adults at a rate that's just unacceptable.

1983
01:24:59.498 --> 01:25:01.498
And it won't just be in the United States,

1984
01:25:01.498 --> 01:25:03.498
it will be worldwide at some point.

1985
01:25:03.498 --> 01:25:05.498
So thank you for joining us today.

1986
01:25:05.498 --> 01:25:07.498
>> Thank you.

1987
01:25:07.498 --> 01:25:09.497
Thanks, Chrissi, for just controlling our

1988
01:25:09.498 --> 01:25:11.497
speed and everything.

1989
01:25:11.498 --> 01:25:13.498
Thanks.

1990
01:25:13.498 --> 01:25:15.498
>> You're welcome.

1991
01:25:15.498 --> 01:25:17.498
This cop -- concludes our webinar for this

1992
01:25:17.498 --> 01:25:19.498
afternoon.

1993
01:25:19.498 --> 01:25:21.498
It will be posted on the CBP website.

1994
01:25:21.498 --> 01:25:24.846
Thank you for joining us and enjoy the

1995
01:25:24.974 --> 01:25:26.974
rest of your day.

1996
01:25:26.974 --> 01:25:28.974
>> Thank you.