WEBVTT 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:06.465 >> HOST: Good afternoon, I'm Chrissi with 00:00:06.465 --> 00:00:08.740 office of trade relations. Today's 00:00:08.740 --> 00:00:11.149 webinar is on the Classification Issues 00:00:11.149 --> 00:00:15.586 with Engines, Drive-Axles & More!. This 00:00:15.586 --> 00:00:21.681 webinar is part of the NCDs 2023 webinar 00:00:21.681 --> 00:00:25.119 series. You will be on mute during the 00:00:25.119 --> 00:00:27.242 presentation. Therefore we ask you 00:00:27.242 --> 00:00:28.802 submit any questions you have in the 00:00:28.802 --> 00:00:29.776 chat feature.. 00:00:29.776 --> 00:00:33.776 Now I would like to pass over to national 00:00:33.776 --> 00:00:38.182 import specialist, Liana Alvarez. 00:00:38.182 --> 00:00:39.458 >> LIANA ALVAREZ: Good afternoon, 00:00:39.458 --> 00:00:43.024 everyone. And good morning to all the 00:00:43.024 --> 00:00:53.841 friends in on the West Coast. Welcome 00:00:53.841 --> 00:00:58.245 to the Classification Issues with Engines, Drive-Axles & More! 00:00:58.245 --> 00:01:01.648 My name is Liana Alvarez, as Chrissi 00:01:01.648 --> 00:01:05.618 said I'm the national import specialist 00:01:05.618 --> 00:01:08.183 with the xhauddy division. 00:01:08.183 --> 00:01:11.892 The commodities under my purview include 00:01:11.892 --> 00:01:16.709 engines and motors in chapter 84 of the 00:01:16.709 --> 00:01:19.866 schedule of the United States, 00:01:19.866 --> 00:01:23.111 automotive parts, trailers and parts of 00:01:23.111 --> 00:01:29.133 trailers on chapter 87. Aircraft parts 00:01:29.133 --> 00:01:32.367 of chapter 88. Except drones. That's 00:01:32.367 --> 00:01:33.776 Matt Sullivan. 00:01:33.776 --> 00:01:37.617 And floating structures of chapter 89. 00:01:37.617 --> 00:01:41.054 And because I handle such a variety of 00:01:41.054 --> 00:01:47.742 articles within the HTUS, I receive 00:01:47.742 --> 00:01:49.708 multiple requests to discuss different 00:01:49.708 --> 00:01:51.710 topics not really related to one or 00:01:51.710 --> 00:01:56.111 another. As a result, I decided to put 00:01:56.111 --> 00:01:59.239 them all together in a very, oddly, 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:04.215 named webinar. So enjoy. 00:02:04.215 --> 00:02:09.768 Here's our -- oops -- let's see. Our 00:02:09.768 --> 00:02:13.614 mission statement. The CBP mission 00:02:13.614 --> 00:02:16.184 statement. The office of trades mission 00:02:16.184 --> 00:02:17.585 statement states that the office of 00:02:17.585 --> 00:02:21.429 trade facilities legitimate trade, 00:02:21.429 --> 00:02:24.116 enforces laws, and prex the economy 00:02:24.116 --> 00:02:26.829 economy to ensure consumer safety and 00:02:26.829 --> 00:02:29.117 create a level playing field for 00:02:29.117 --> 00:02:30.676 American businesses. 00:02:30.676 --> 00:02:33.080 This is just a little heads up that this 00:02:33.080 --> 00:02:35.651 webinar is for general information 00:02:35.651 --> 00:02:38.926 purposes only. And it's just intended 00:02:38.926 --> 00:02:44.615 to provide some guidance. You may want 00:02:44.615 --> 00:02:50.429 to wish to obtain a binding ruling or 00:02:50.429 --> 00:02:51.744 may be seek guidance from a private 00:02:51.744 --> 00:02:57.113 sector expert. Because relying solely 00:02:57.113 --> 00:03:01.112 on general information in this webinar 00:03:01.112 --> 00:03:04.531 may not be considered reasonable care. 00:03:04.531 --> 00:03:07.368 Another disclaimer that the order of 00:03:07.368 --> 00:03:09.643 visual media including images, video and 00:03:09.643 --> 00:03:13.619 sound contained in this webinar is 00:03:13.619 --> 00:03:17.742 either public domain or was obtained 00:03:17.742 --> 00:03:22.148 through appropriate copyright licenses 00:03:22.148 --> 00:03:27.275 and educational purposes only and no 00:03:27.275 --> 00:03:30.119 endorsement by CBP. 00:03:30.119 --> 00:03:35.798 And because many complicated factors can 00:03:35.798 --> 00:03:37.802 be involved in customs issues, you may 00:03:37.802 --> 00:03:41.775 want to obtain a binding ruling via the 00:03:41.775 --> 00:03:45.490 website, via the link, that's on this 00:03:45.490 --> 00:03:47.455 slide. 00:03:47.455 --> 00:03:53.306 So, let's begin. We'll begin with the 00:03:53.306 --> 00:04:00.270 topic of large vertical shaft engines. 00:04:00.270 --> 00:04:04.395 I'm assuming that this topic was 00:04:04.395 --> 00:04:06.396 requested because the of recent 00:04:06.396 --> 00:04:08.960 antidumping case from large vertical 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:11.651 shaft engines from China. 00:04:11.651 --> 00:04:16.056 I was I asked to identify features of 00:04:16.056 --> 00:04:18.174 engines. I will try to do so in the 00:04:18.174 --> 00:04:21.617 next few slides. But I will not be 00:04:21.617 --> 00:04:22.869 discussing the actual dumping case 00:04:22.869 --> 00:04:25.588 itself. 00:04:25.588 --> 00:04:29.430 So this is under the purview of the 00:04:29.430 --> 00:04:33.391 department of commerce. So if you are 00:04:33.391 --> 00:04:34.956 interested in the antidumping case 00:04:34.956 --> 00:04:41.360 itself, you can either e-mail me or I'll 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:44.645 find an appropriate point of contact for 00:04:44.645 --> 00:04:48.494 you for the case itself. 00:04:48.494 --> 00:04:52.738 So large vertical engines are basically, 00:04:52.738 --> 00:04:57.431 these are gasoline engines. They are -- 00:04:57.431 --> 00:04:59.864 they have -- they're designed for and 00:04:59.864 --> 00:05:06.555 used in riding lawn mowers and zero turn 00:05:06.555 --> 00:05:10.085 radius lawn mower. And can be used in 00:05:10.085 --> 00:05:14.088 other non-hand held outdoor commitment 00:05:14.088 --> 00:05:16.931 such as brush mowers, grinders and 00:05:16.931 --> 00:05:18.212 vertical start generators. They have to 00:05:18.212 --> 00:05:23.734 say a minimum displacement of 225 cubic 00:05:23.734 --> 00:05:27.017 centimeters, cc. And the maximum 00:05:27.017 --> 00:05:33.507 displacement of 999 cc. 00:05:33.507 --> 00:05:36.653 Here is the equipment that such engines 00:05:36.653 --> 00:05:40.235 are used on. They're usually larger 00:05:40.235 --> 00:05:42.525 equipment, and this is the riding and 00:05:42.525 --> 00:05:51.768 zero turn radius lawn mowers. 00:05:51.768 --> 00:05:53.619 On this slide you can see certain 00:05:53.619 --> 00:05:58.017 features that the large vertical engines 00:05:58.017 --> 00:06:00.024 may have and the location of some 00:06:00.024 --> 00:06:02.429 components as you can see. I'm not 00:06:02.429 --> 00:06:06.399 going to go in it. It really -- it's 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:09.549 self-explanatory. 00:06:09.549 --> 00:06:13.118 And then we'll go into small vertical 00:06:13.118 --> 00:06:15.084 shaft engines. Which is basically the 00:06:15.084 --> 00:06:19.056 same as the large vertical shaft 00:06:19.056 --> 00:06:23.337 engines. However, the displacement in 00:06:23.337 --> 00:06:26.898 the small vertical shaft engines are 00:06:26.898 --> 00:06:33.017 between 99 cc up to 225 cc. 00:06:33.017 --> 00:06:39.837 And they are predominantly used for and 00:06:39.837 --> 00:06:45.395 work behind lawn mowers and other 00:06:45.395 --> 00:06:50.206 non-hand held outdoor equipment such as 00:06:50.206 --> 00:06:54.335 pressure washers. 00:06:54.335 --> 00:06:58.463 Now let's talk classification. Large 00:06:58.463 --> 00:07:03.581 vertical shaft? Gens are engines that 00:07:03.581 --> 00:07:06.988 generate gross power between 6.7 00:07:06.988 --> 00:07:11.961 kilowatts to about 42 kilowatts. 00:07:11.961 --> 00:07:14.838 Small vertical shaft engines are 00:07:14.838 --> 00:07:18.521 typically engines that generate gross 00:07:18.521 --> 00:07:23.767 power between 1.95 kill ought and 4.75 00:07:23.767 --> 00:07:25.229 kilowatts. 00:07:25.229 --> 00:07:31.591 So as a result the classification may 00:07:31.591 --> 00:07:42.272 vary between sub heading and 7108090 00:07:42.272 --> 00:07:43.274 depending on the gross power and the 00:07:43.274 --> 00:07:48.521 equipment that it's used on. 00:07:48.521 --> 00:07:55.488 Now, let's go into the next topic. Anyone 00:07:55.488 --> 00:07:59.051 have any questions regarding engines? 00:07:59.051 --> 00:08:01.892 [Pause for questions]. 00:08:01.892 --> 00:08:04.479 No? Okay. The next topic that was 00:08:04.479 --> 00:08:07.582 requested was the classification of 00:08:07.582 --> 00:08:12.712 drive axles with differential parts vs. 00:08:12.712 --> 00:08:16.393 transaxle with differential parts. I 00:08:16.393 --> 00:08:19.960 know it's a mouthful. But we'll go into 00:08:19.960 --> 00:08:20.523 it deeper. 00:08:20.523 --> 00:08:25.080 With the automotive industry constantly 00:08:25.080 --> 00:08:27.640 evolving and it seems everyday there's a 00:08:27.640 --> 00:08:30.610 new invention in this field, it's very 00:08:30.610 --> 00:08:33.330 difficult to keep up and classify such 00:08:33.330 --> 00:08:40.739 articles. As NIS for almost 9 years in 00:08:40.739 --> 00:08:44.711 this field, it's always challenging. 00:08:44.711 --> 00:08:50.678 However, drive-axles with differentialles 00:08:50.678 --> 00:08:52.960 and transaxles have been around for some 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:56.803 time. And we will try to address each. 00:08:56.803 --> 00:08:59.769 What is a differential? It is a set of 00:08:59.769 --> 00:09:04.737 gears that transmits engine power to the 00:09:04.737 --> 00:09:06.621 wheel allowing to turn to different 00:09:06.621 --> 00:09:09.737 speeds on turns. If you have a solid 00:09:09.737 --> 00:09:13.703 axle on the set of the wheels, it will 00:09:13.703 --> 00:09:16.303 not turn basically. 00:09:16.303 --> 00:09:17.992 That's the differential comes in. The 00:09:17.992 --> 00:09:21.962 front wheel drive, the FWD, it's usually 00:09:21.962 --> 00:09:24.365 along the transmission inside of housing 00:09:24.365 --> 00:09:26.645 and the whole unit is called transaxle.. 00:09:26.645 --> 00:09:30.930 00:09:30.930 --> 00:09:35.617 With rear wheel drive cars, RWD, the 00:09:35.617 --> 00:09:37.175 differential is between the rear wheels 00:09:37.175 --> 00:09:40.864 and connected to the transmission by a 00:09:40.864 --> 00:09:45.712 drive-axles. Sorry, by a drive shaft -- 00:09:45.712 --> 00:09:46.853 sorry. 00:09:46.853 --> 00:09:51.554 And all wheel drive, AWD, ask 4 wheel 00:09:51.554 --> 00:09:55.239 drive vehicles at a center differential 00:09:55.239 --> 00:09:59.364 or transfer case to distribute power 00:09:59.364 --> 00:10:00.369 from the rear. 00:10:00.369 --> 00:10:02.486 The drive-axles is a component that 00:10:02.486 --> 00:10:03.795 extends from the differential into the 00:10:03.795 --> 00:10:06.492 tire. Drive-axleses can be found in 00:10:06.492 --> 00:10:09.617 both front or rear wheel cars and 00:10:09.617 --> 00:10:13.742 necessary to operate both front and rear 00:10:13.742 --> 00:10:15.580 axle. 00:10:15.580 --> 00:10:19.270 As I mentioned earlier, the transaxle 00:10:19.270 --> 00:10:22.992 performance both gear changing function 00:10:22.992 --> 00:10:24.804 over transmission and the power 00:10:24.804 --> 00:10:27.955 splitting ability of a differential and 00:10:27.955 --> 00:10:30.371 non-integrated unit. 00:10:30.371 --> 00:10:33.078 The operation of a transaxle is the same 00:10:33.078 --> 00:10:35.637 of any transmission. The only 00:10:35.637 --> 00:10:39.454 difference is instead of being connected 00:10:39.454 --> 00:10:42.305 to a long drive shaft to the rear axles 00:10:42.305 --> 00:10:47.146 the transmissions output shaft -- drives 00:10:47.146 --> 00:10:52.986 the large gear that matches with the 00:10:52.986 --> 00:10:54.675 differential gear. And the transmission 00:10:54.675 --> 00:10:56.838 itself is in the transaxle housing 00:10:56.838 --> 00:11:03.087 mounted parallel to the transmission. 00:11:03.087 --> 00:11:08.487 There's what the transaxle looks like 00:11:08.487 --> 00:11:11.619 with the differential. The interesting 00:11:11.619 --> 00:11:12.739 part is the classification. 00:11:12.739 --> 00:11:18.017 All right. So sub heading 870840 00:11:18.017 --> 00:11:19.015 provides for transmission and parts 00:11:19.015 --> 00:11:25.392 thereof. While sub heading 870850 00:11:25.392 --> 00:11:26.954 Provides For Drive-axless with 00:11:26.954 --> 00:11:28.836 differential non-driving axles and 00:11:28.836 --> 00:11:30.961 parts. What is the classification of 00:11:30.961 --> 00:11:33.359 drive-axleses with differential 00:11:33.359 --> 00:11:38.335 transaxle and their respective parts? 00:11:38.335 --> 00:11:43.890 In headquarters ruleling 954982, oh, look 00:11:43.890 --> 00:11:47.022 at that, I don't have the date of this 00:11:47.022 --> 00:11:50.142 ruling, but I will get it for you, if 00:11:50.142 --> 00:11:53.834 you need the date. 00:11:53.834 --> 00:11:55.985 CBP discussed the classification of 00:11:55.985 --> 00:11:58.398 transaxles. It states in the ruling 00:11:58.398 --> 00:12:01.674 that the unit has a three speed 00:12:01.674 --> 00:12:03.647 synchromesh transmission and high 00:12:03.647 --> 00:12:06.925 efficiency bevel differential gears 00:12:06.925 --> 00:12:08.796 along with other components. This 00:12:08.796 --> 00:12:11.340 component is directly coupled to an 00:12:11.340 --> 00:12:14.453 engine. The transaxle precisely 00:12:14.453 --> 00:12:17.615 delivers to the near wheels. In that 00:12:17.615 --> 00:12:22.300 ruling CBP determined -- oh, thank you. 00:12:22.300 --> 00:12:28.253 It's dated November 17th, 1993. Thanks, 00:12:28.253 --> 00:12:29.410 Philip? 00:12:29.410 --> 00:12:35.098 Yes. So and that ruling CBP determined 00:12:35.098 --> 00:12:39.627 that the transaxle is correctly 00:12:39.627 --> 00:12:44.352 classified in 870840 as a transmission 00:12:44.352 --> 00:12:48.162 equipment or gear box. 00:12:48.162 --> 00:12:57.694 Now let's go back to our HTS. So, what 00:12:57.694 --> 00:12:59.290 do we do when we have to classify 00:12:59.290 --> 00:13:02.251 individual component? When the question 00:13:02.251 --> 00:13:05.660 was first submitted there was an 00:13:05.660 --> 00:13:11.790 assumption that sub heading 70850 00:13:11.790 --> 00:13:15.351 coverings axles typically found in rear 00:13:15.351 --> 00:13:18.473 wheel drive lay outs. As the result the 00:13:18.473 --> 00:13:22.876 dinchlgzs found in transaxles it found 00:13:22.876 --> 00:13:25.723 as transmission equipment -- as part of 00:13:25.723 --> 00:13:28.693 gear boxes and transmission. 00:13:28.693 --> 00:13:34.253 I disagree, however. In headquarters 00:13:34.253 --> 00:13:47.753 rulings, H963031 and H96322, both dated 00:13:47.753 --> 00:13:50.878 March 3rd, 2000, CBP discussed 00:13:50.878 --> 00:13:54.157 classifications within automatic 00:13:54.157 --> 00:13:56.157 transmissions and they were classified 00:13:56.157 --> 00:13:59.563 in sub heading 870893 which provides for 00:13:59.563 --> 00:14:01.690 clutches 6789 rather than parts of 00:14:01.690 --> 00:14:04.692 transmissions in 870840. 00:14:04.692 --> 00:14:08.099 The ruling stated, both rulings stated 00:14:08.099 --> 00:14:12.222 that automatic transmissions have 00:14:12.222 --> 00:14:14.661 internal clumps to engage and disengage 00:14:14.661 --> 00:14:17.061 the engines. And -- sorry, 00:14:17.061 --> 00:14:18.907 automatically as the gears change. 00:14:18.907 --> 00:14:22.884 Articles that engage and disengage the 00:14:22.884 --> 00:14:24.877 engine automatically perform the 00:14:24.877 --> 00:14:27.876 function of a clutch within the common 00:14:27.876 --> 00:14:31.282 and commercial meaning of them. 00:14:31.282 --> 00:14:35.530 For purposes of sub heading 70893 the 00:14:35.530 --> 00:14:42.223 provision of clutches described the 00:14:42.223 --> 00:14:46.502 commodity -- and it could be the 00:14:46.502 --> 00:14:49.191 construed within the transaxle. A 00:14:49.191 --> 00:14:52.347 transaxle as a whole is classified in 00:14:52.347 --> 00:14:56.879 sub heading 870840 as transmission 00:14:56.879 --> 00:14:59.317 equipment or gear boxes. 00:14:59.317 --> 00:15:01.436 Individual components related to axles, 00:15:01.436 --> 00:15:04.125 half shafts or difference part will be 00:15:04.125 --> 00:15:09.819 classified in sub heading 870850. 00:15:09.819 --> 00:15:14.094 You can also check a few rulings that 00:15:14.094 --> 00:15:17.937 classify transaxle components that 00:15:17.937 --> 00:15:21.471 related to differentials and parts of 00:15:21.471 --> 00:15:25.881 the drive-axles. There are some rulings 00:15:25.881 --> 00:15:31.441 -- that classified those components in 00:15:31.441 --> 00:15:39.126 sub heading 870850. And the rulings are 00:15:39.126 --> 00:15:49.937 N041 dated October 21st, 2008. N267122 00:15:49.937 --> 00:16:00.818 dated August 7th, 2015. And N317521 00:16:00.818 --> 00:16:02.882 dated March 5th, 2021. 00:16:02.882 --> 00:16:06.132 Okay. All right. So next I would like 00:16:06.132 --> 00:16:08.564 to discuss some recently issued 00:16:08.564 --> 00:16:12.664 headquarters rulings that were either 00:16:12.664 --> 00:16:15.376 result of for further review or 00:16:15.376 --> 00:16:18.786 applications for further review. 00:16:18.786 --> 00:16:22.783 Internal advice or reconsideration for 00:16:22.783 --> 00:16:26.038 New York rulings. The authority that 00:16:26.038 --> 00:16:34.850 oversees the decisions is titled in 00:16:34.850 --> 00:16:36.281 CFR177.12. 00:16:36.281 --> 00:16:38.287 Which talks about modification or 00:16:38.287 --> 00:16:41.819 revocation of interpretive rulings for 00:16:41.819 --> 00:16:44.692 review decisions and previous treatments 00:16:44.692 --> 00:16:51.944 of substantial identical transactions. 00:16:51.944 --> 00:16:53.347 The first ruling that I would like to 00:16:53.347 --> 00:17:02.878 discuss is headquarters ruling 309484, 00:17:02.878 --> 00:17:11.563 dated Nevada 192021. This was for 00:17:11.563 --> 00:17:13.850 further review. 00:17:13.850 --> 00:17:17.532 The merchandise is rider. It is 00:17:17.532 --> 00:17:20.504 described as portable automobile safety 00:17:20.504 --> 00:17:24.348 device designed to use by children ages 00:17:24.348 --> 00:17:28.191 3-11-year-olds. The rider is further 00:17:28.191 --> 00:17:30.627 described as being a car seat option 00:17:30.627 --> 00:17:33.592 that fits in your pocket. And it has 00:17:33.592 --> 00:17:36.974 the design of a vest or harness. 00:17:36.974 --> 00:17:39.844 In other words it is designed to function 00:17:39.844 --> 00:17:42.289 as a safety device to the effects of the 00:17:42.289 --> 00:17:44.972 seatbelt of an automobile like a car 00:17:44.972 --> 00:17:52.225 seat or harness. 00:17:52.225 --> 00:17:55.785 Chelsea, you can hold on to your 00:17:55.785 --> 00:17:57.506 question. We can answer all the 00:17:57.506 --> 00:17:58.350 questions at the end of the 00:17:58.350 --> 00:18:02.188 presentation, thank you. 00:18:02.188 --> 00:18:07.600 So two possible sub headings were 00:18:07.600 --> 00:18:15.567 discussed. Heading 6307 on that 00:18:15.567 --> 00:18:20.256 provided for other need of articles and 00:18:20.256 --> 00:18:23.506 heading 8708 as parts and accessories of 00:18:23.506 --> 00:18:27.503 vehicles. 00:18:27.503 --> 00:18:29.503 So headquarters stated this subject 00:18:29.503 --> 00:18:33.624 safety vest or harness device is 00:18:33.624 --> 00:18:41.999 designed for use solely and exclusivey 00:18:41.999 --> 00:18:45.418 in automobiles for seatbelt systems for 00:18:45.418 --> 00:18:49.816 children. In the heading -- informs 00:18:49.816 --> 00:18:52.813 that seeblths and other similar articles 00:18:52.813 --> 00:18:58.503 which are part for vehicles are provided 00:18:58.503 --> 00:19:01.783 in this heading. What do you guys think 00:19:01.783 --> 00:19:05.559 the final classification of this little 00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:07.599 vest was? 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:15.844 All right. 8708. Anyone else wants to 00:19:15.844 --> 00:19:23.099 jump in? No one else? Yup. 8708. As 00:19:23.099 --> 00:19:28.099 headquarters indicated, the seatbelt 00:19:28.099 --> 00:19:32.937 systems are described in the explanatory 00:19:32.937 --> 00:19:39.597 notes to heading 8708 as being provided 00:19:39.597 --> 00:19:42.879 for in this heading. 00:19:42.879 --> 00:19:49.565 All right. So, the next ruling that I 00:19:49.565 --> 00:19:54.381 would like to discuss is headquarters 00:19:54.381 --> 00:20:03.456 ruling H317007. Dated February 13, 00:20:03.456 --> 00:20:06.784 2023. And it was a result of a 00:20:06.784 --> 00:20:12.164 reconsideration request of ruling 00:20:12.164 --> 00:20:17.162 N312073 dated on June 8th, 2020. 00:20:17.162 --> 00:20:22.255 And it was filed by Samo Travis and 00:20:22.255 --> 00:20:26.815 Rosenburg. The classification of cast 00:20:26.815 --> 00:20:33.347 iron cinder heads and blockcaseings. 00:20:33.347 --> 00:20:35.909 The steps including manufacturing of 00:20:35.909 --> 00:20:41.318 cast iron parts, cleaning and machine 00:20:41.318 --> 00:20:44.474 needing to finish machinery. One of 00:20:44.474 --> 00:20:49.844 those steps including a primer. A coat 00:20:49.844 --> 00:20:54.254 of primer paint to prevent rest. 00:20:54.254 --> 00:20:56.847 The possible classification sub headings 00:20:56.847 --> 00:21:02.655 were presented. One of them is 00:21:02.655 --> 00:21:05.655 84099910. Which is cast iron parts not 00:21:05.655 --> 00:21:08.063 advanced beyond cleaning and machine 00:21:08.063 --> 00:21:13.469 only for removal of fence 00:21:13.469 --> 00:21:16.597 (Indiscernible) risers for location 00:21:16.597 --> 00:21:17.160 machinery. 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:26.536 And the second one was 84099991 as parts 00:21:26.536 --> 00:21:31.975 of -- other parts of diesel engines. 00:21:31.975 --> 00:21:36.658 In ruling 312073 that was the subject of 00:21:36.658 --> 00:21:40.782 this reconsideration request, the NIS, 00:21:40.782 --> 00:21:47.031 me, [Chuckles] relied on ruling, on 00:21:47.031 --> 00:21:55.878 headquarters ruling H2876670 -- among 00:21:55.878 --> 00:21:58.536 other headquarters decisions. 00:21:58.536 --> 00:22:05.946 Where CBP stated regarding castings that 00:22:05.946 --> 00:22:08.376 CBP has consistently held that coating, 00:22:08.376 --> 00:22:16.473 lacquering, and paintering processes not 00:22:16.473 --> 00:22:20.161 incidental to nonfoundry work. 00:22:20.161 --> 00:22:23.880 As a result, I classified this article in 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:29.124 sub heading 84099991 as other parts of 00:22:29.124 --> 00:22:31.405 diesel engines. 00:22:31.405 --> 00:22:34.818 However I didn't take into consideration 00:22:34.818 --> 00:22:37.942 the rose machine and mill supply 00:22:37.942 --> 00:22:40.501 incorporated vs. United States court 00:22:40.501 --> 00:22:44.627 case. Or in short, rose machine. 00:22:44.627 --> 00:22:48.903 In that case we held that painting cast 00:22:48.903 --> 00:22:51.593 iron rollers for machines to protect 00:22:51.593 --> 00:22:55.622 against oxidation did not advance them 00:22:55.622 --> 00:22:58.842 beyond being cleaned for purposes of 00:22:58.842 --> 00:23:01.151 classification under the tariff 00:23:01.151 --> 00:23:01.405 schedule. 00:23:01.405 --> 00:23:03.974 So, therefore, what do you think 00:23:03.974 --> 00:23:07.256 happened? Did headquarters agree with 00:23:07.256 --> 00:23:16.904 me? Or did they reclassify it in 00:23:16.904 --> 00:23:20.595 84099910? Any takers on this one? 00:23:20.595 --> 00:23:22.474 Anyone? 00:23:22.474 --> 00:23:26.160 You think they agreed with me? 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:27.000 [Pause]. 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:35.696 Okay. All right. All right. Perfect. 00:23:35.696 --> 00:23:41.788 So, the headquarters did not agree with 00:23:41.788 --> 00:23:47.223 me and they applied the rose machine 00:23:47.223 --> 00:23:54.031 case to this issue and the ruling was 00:23:54.031 --> 00:24:02.001 revoked, reflexing the classification of 00:24:02.001 --> 00:24:07.534 84099910 as cast iron parts not advanced 00:24:07.534 --> 00:24:11.812 cleaning and so forth. 00:24:11.812 --> 00:24:14.501 Next case. We have two cases. We have 00:24:14.501 --> 00:24:17.499 two headquarters rulings that are also 00:24:17.499 --> 00:24:24.035 reconsideration requests. Of rulings 00:24:24.035 --> 00:24:28.722 N264869, and N264870. They were both 00:24:28.722 --> 00:24:40.692 dated June 21st, and this was reconciled 00:24:40.692 --> 00:24:43.380 by Hyundai motor company. 00:24:43.380 --> 00:24:48.497 Under review was -- and timing tensioner. 00:24:48.497 --> 00:24:52.186 It's a mouthful. I do apologize for the 00:24:52.186 --> 00:24:57.031 terminologies, but that's the way it 00:24:57.031 --> 00:25:00.725 works with automotive parts. The 00:25:00.725 --> 00:25:06.073 tensioner arm assembly is comprised of a 00:25:06.073 --> 00:25:08.001 plastic shoe in base and attach to the 00:25:08.001 --> 00:25:10.973 chain. And maintain it's constant and 00:25:10.973 --> 00:25:14.654 regular orbit. One end of the item is 00:25:14.654 --> 00:25:19.504 fixed on automobile engine with a bolt. 00:25:19.504 --> 00:25:22.064 And the other end of the item transmits 00:25:22.064 --> 00:25:24.629 pressure from the timing tensioner to 00:25:24.629 --> 00:25:31.158 the chain and maintains its tension. Ive 00:25:31.158 --> 00:25:34.440 it is attached to the chain directly and 00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:36.717 prevents the chain from getting off the 00:25:36.717 --> 00:25:40.537 frag. The base is fixed to the engine 00:25:40.537 --> 00:25:44.614 and attached to the thymic tensioner. 00:25:44.614 --> 00:25:46.973 The second item is the time in chain 00:25:46.973 --> 00:25:52.778 tensioner is describes to time in chain 00:25:52.778 --> 00:25:58.628 and consisting of steel housing, spring 00:25:58.628 --> 00:26:04.004 ratchet, and a ring, and plunger. In 00:26:04.004 --> 00:26:07.436 controlling the chain, it performs a 00:26:07.436 --> 00:26:09.562 dampening function maintaining the 00:26:09.562 --> 00:26:12.968 stability of the stretched chain during 00:26:12.968 --> 00:26:16.971 operation. 00:26:16.971 --> 00:26:23.922 Okay. It's not moving. All right. 00:26:23.922 --> 00:26:25.907 Let's talk classification. 00:26:25.907 --> 00:26:31.187 Um, two possible classification headings 00:26:31.187 --> 00:26:41.141 were presented in this case. Um, is the 00:26:41.141 --> 00:26:47.094 tension arm assembly and the timing 00:26:47.094 --> 00:26:54.499 chain classified as part of engines or 00:26:54.499 --> 00:27:00.908 parts of motor vehicles in heading 0708 00:27:00.908 --> 00:27:03.750 as parts in vehicles? Who wants to take 00:27:03.750 --> 00:27:11.716 a stab at this one? 8409. 8708. Okay. 00:27:11.716 --> 00:27:12.280 Okay. 00:27:12.280 --> 00:27:18.411 All right. 00:27:18.411 --> 00:27:18.535 [Pause]. 00:27:18.535 --> 00:27:26.499 So, headquarters while we receive 00:27:26.499 --> 00:27:28.224 multiple responses coming through, the 00:27:28.224 --> 00:27:31.345 headquarters stated the tension arm 00:27:31.345 --> 00:27:34.880 holds the timing chain in place and in 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:38.721 addition to enabling the timing chain 00:27:38.721 --> 00:27:41.152 also prevents from it coming into direct 00:27:41.152 --> 00:27:43.722 contact with the engine block or the 00:27:43.722 --> 00:27:46.566 engine head. The base or tension or arm 00:27:46.566 --> 00:27:49.127 assembly connects the shoe to the 00:27:49.127 --> 00:27:51.098 engine. Without the tension arm 00:27:51.098 --> 00:27:53.533 assembly, the timing chain cannot 00:27:53.533 --> 00:27:56.662 function and the engine cannot properly 00:27:56.662 --> 00:28:03.467 ignite the fuel mixture inside the 00:28:03.467 --> 00:28:06.596 silllender, and time and chain to 00:28:06.596 --> 00:28:10.319 prevent engine failure. 00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:14.564 As a result, headquarters classified both 00:28:14.564 --> 00:28:26.218 of these assemblies in sub heading 84991 00:28:26.218 --> 00:28:29.498 as part of gas lean engines. 00:28:29.498 --> 00:28:40.155 Our next topic, can a ruling be revoked 00:28:40.155 --> 00:28:43.028 -- sorry, can a ruling be revoked 00:28:43.028 --> 00:28:45.314 without headquarters specifically 00:28:45.314 --> 00:28:49.841 indicating so? Does anyone know the 00:28:49.841 --> 00:28:52.533 answer to that? I kind of have the 00:28:52.533 --> 00:28:53.809 slide open [Chuckles] 00:28:53.809 --> 00:29:01.497 So the answer is yes. Yes, they can. We 00:29:01.497 --> 00:29:04.905 call it revoked by operation of law. 00:29:04.905 --> 00:29:08.629 There are only a few instances when that 00:29:08.629 --> 00:29:11.316 could happen and they're listed on the 00:29:11.316 --> 00:29:13.908 slide. The first one is the certain 00:29:13.908 --> 00:29:17.161 rulings or decisions, I should say, 00:29:17.161 --> 00:29:24.971 certain decisions can be revoked by law 00:29:24.971 --> 00:29:26.096 based on the court decision. 00:29:26.096 --> 00:29:28.097 If there are changes in the legal notes 00:29:28.097 --> 00:29:32.062 of the harmonized tariff schedule or 00:29:32.062 --> 00:29:35.065 changes in the language of the tariff 00:29:35.065 --> 00:29:39.629 chapter, heading, or sub heading. 00:29:39.629 --> 00:29:43.752 All right. So the first -- and the 00:29:43.752 --> 00:29:51.997 reason I chose the next few court cases 00:29:51.997 --> 00:29:56.417 is because we discussed mostly parts of 00:29:56.417 --> 00:29:59.659 whether it's parts of engines, parts of 00:29:59.659 --> 00:30:01.533 certain equipment, or parts of the 00:30:01.533 --> 00:30:03.095 vehicles. 00:30:03.095 --> 00:30:07.650 So the next few cases that I will be 00:30:07.650 --> 00:30:11.748 discussing are the decisions that had to 00:30:11.748 --> 00:30:15.597 do with parts of articles. So one of 00:30:15.597 --> 00:30:20.885 the oldest court cases that CBP kil 00:30:20.885 --> 00:30:28.690 relies on is United States vs. will be 00:30:28.690 --> 00:30:31.939 camera stores. 00:30:31.939 --> 00:30:38.222 [Reading the slide]. 00:30:38.222 --> 00:30:45.872 So, the item under review was a tripod, 00:30:45.872 --> 00:30:51.880 a wooden tripod for a camera. It was 00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:54.287 1933, mind you. 00:30:54.287 --> 00:30:57.971 To make their argument, that a tripod is 00:30:57.971 --> 00:31:04.532 a part of a camera, these are the 00:31:04.532 --> 00:31:07.502 arguments that were presented. The 00:31:07.502 --> 00:31:10.340 tripods are essential to the cameras 00:31:10.340 --> 00:31:15.745 because this camera must, while in use, 00:31:15.745 --> 00:31:17.746 be supported and held in a given 00:31:17.746 --> 00:31:21.434 position, either horizontal and vertical 00:31:21.434 --> 00:31:24.561 and the tripods are such supports. 00:31:24.561 --> 00:31:29.689 Tripods are so made that objects 00:31:29.689 --> 00:31:32.537 supported by them may be elevated and 00:31:32.537 --> 00:31:34.253 they are connected to cameras when in 00:31:34.253 --> 00:31:39.787 use extend upwardly through the flat 00:31:39.787 --> 00:31:42.062 circular heads through the tripods and 00:31:42.062 --> 00:31:45.911 fit into sockets of the cameras. 00:31:45.911 --> 00:31:49.598 And some of the arguments against it, 00:31:49.598 --> 00:31:53.433 those tripods being parts of cameras, 00:31:53.433 --> 00:31:58.221 are the cameras and tripods are rarely 00:31:58.221 --> 00:32:05.098 sold together. Tripods are used for 00:32:05.098 --> 00:32:08.090 other purposes. And the use of the 00:32:08.090 --> 00:32:13.780 tripod is optional. They compared it to 00:32:13.780 --> 00:32:15.905 a type writer desk. What do you think 00:32:15.905 --> 00:32:18.621 the court decision was? It's a really 00:32:18.621 --> 00:32:24.033 really old case. But we always that in 00:32:24.033 --> 00:32:25.725 our rulings. 00:32:25.725 --> 00:32:28.999 (Indiscernible) that's right. The court 00:32:28.999 --> 00:32:33.283 decision was not a part. 00:32:33.283 --> 00:32:36.811 Or may be part of the furniture? Maybe 00:32:36.811 --> 00:32:36.969 [Chuckles] 00:32:36.969 --> 00:32:41.661 All right. Our next case is also an 00:32:41.661 --> 00:32:49.036 oldie, 1955. But it's not quite as old 00:32:49.036 --> 00:32:53.311 as willow be. It's United States vs. 00:32:53.311 --> 00:32:59.438 Antonio Pompeo. The article must be 00:32:59.438 --> 00:33:01.998 solely dedicated for use with the 00:33:01.998 --> 00:33:05.123 product it claimed to be apart of it. 00:33:05.123 --> 00:33:07.970 And when in use that article cannot 00:33:07.970 --> 00:33:13.499 function without the article at issue. 00:33:13.499 --> 00:33:19.624 The item discussed was a super charger. 00:33:19.624 --> 00:33:28.592 Here are some arguments to for it to be 00:33:28.592 --> 00:33:30.995 a part. It's designed specifically for 00:33:30.995 --> 00:33:34.409 use on automobiles and in specific 00:33:34.409 --> 00:33:37.248 engines. Extensive alterations in the 00:33:37.248 --> 00:33:40.388 engines were necessary to installed and 00:33:40.388 --> 00:33:43.379 once installed the engine will not 00:33:43.379 --> 00:33:50.340 operate if the tuber charger fails. 00:33:50.340 --> 00:33:52.909 Some arguments against it, it's not an 00:33:52.909 --> 00:33:55.874 intergrl part for which the article it 00:33:55.874 --> 00:33:59.596 is to be joined could not function as 00:33:59.596 --> 00:34:03.004 such article. Because the automobiles 00:34:03.004 --> 00:34:07.284 could function as automobiles without 00:34:07.284 --> 00:34:11.095 the imported super charges, those super 00:34:11.095 --> 00:34:14.090 charges parts at the time of 00:34:14.090 --> 00:34:15.534 importation. 00:34:15.534 --> 00:34:16.497 The third argument is that the 00:34:16.497 --> 00:34:20.782 automobiles are -- as manufactured -- 00:34:20.782 --> 00:34:24.185 did not have super charges. It would 00:34:24.185 --> 00:34:29.035 operate perfectly without the super 00:34:29.035 --> 00:34:31.597 charger being installed. What do you 00:34:31.597 --> 00:34:38.847 think the court decision was? 00:34:38.847 --> 00:34:40.968 All right I see different responses. 00:34:40.968 --> 00:34:44.096 Mostly apart. Not a part. Okay. All 00:34:44.096 --> 00:34:46.654 right. 00:34:46.654 --> 00:34:51.628 The court was decision was it's apart. 00:34:51.628 --> 00:35:00.439 As, I said, the article must be solely 00:35:00.439 --> 00:35:01.878 dedicated for use with the product it is 00:35:01.878 --> 00:35:03.593 claimed to be a part of. And when you 00:35:03.593 --> 00:35:06.438 applied to that use the article cannot 00:35:06.438 --> 00:35:09.283 function without the article at issue. 00:35:09.283 --> 00:35:15.250 So, there's a couple of other cases. 00:35:15.250 --> 00:35:21.776 I'm not going into depth, but these are 00:35:21.776 --> 00:35:24.221 the cases we use. Not as old as the 00:35:24.221 --> 00:35:27.628 first two. But we still rely on them to 00:35:27.628 --> 00:35:30.032 determine whether an article is a part. 00:35:30.032 --> 00:35:34.159 The first one is born technologist 00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:41.120 limited vs. United States and where it 00:35:41.120 --> 00:35:44.248 says imported item is not a part if it's 00:35:44.248 --> 00:35:46.401 a separate and distinct commercial 00:35:46.401 --> 00:35:48.529 entity. And the subject of this course 00:35:48.529 --> 00:35:52.935 case was a canopy for a car seat. 00:35:52.935 --> 00:35:56.465 And in this case, the canopy was 00:35:56.465 --> 00:36:03.471 determined to be a part. Because it did 00:36:03.471 --> 00:36:09.157 not have a separate and distinct 00:36:09.157 --> 00:36:10.848 commercial entity. 00:36:10.848 --> 00:36:14.126 The second case we use quite often in our 00:36:14.126 --> 00:36:27.500 rulings and decisions is mitts bihe and 00:36:27.500 --> 00:36:32.470 -- where the article is part of a part 00:36:32.470 --> 00:36:34.184 then an a part of the whole. The 00:36:34.184 --> 00:36:38.435 subject of this case was electronic -- 00:36:38.435 --> 00:36:43.127 sorry, electronic motor. That had its 00:36:43.127 --> 00:36:45.842 internal valves and a little part of the 00:36:45.842 --> 00:36:48.412 valve was determined to be a part of the 00:36:48.412 --> 00:36:54.249 valve rather than a part of the whole 00:36:54.249 --> 00:36:55.503 electronic motor. 00:36:55.503 --> 00:37:03.031 Next. And let me go back. And so the 00:37:03.031 --> 00:37:05.908 reason I brought up these cases is just 00:37:05.908 --> 00:37:08.314 to show you that the rulings that 00:37:08.314 --> 00:37:10.590 involved determining parts of articles 00:37:10.590 --> 00:37:14.275 issued prior to these court cases, in 00:37:14.275 --> 00:37:17.126 contrary to the court decisionerize now 00:37:17.126 --> 00:37:23.809 revoked by operation of law. 00:37:23.809 --> 00:37:25.816 So now we're going to change and sub 00:37:25.816 --> 00:37:32.494 headings. As you maybe aware in 2021, 00:37:32.494 --> 00:37:35.228 the international trade commission 00:37:35.228 --> 00:37:37.314 implemented major changes in the 00:37:37.314 --> 00:37:38.750 harmonized tariff schedule. For 00:37:38.750 --> 00:37:43.434 example, prior to 2021, automotive wind 00:37:43.434 --> 00:37:47.562 shields and windows which did not meet 00:37:47.562 --> 00:37:53.093 the terms of heading 7007, I want to 00:37:53.093 --> 00:37:55.690 reiterate that did not meet the terms of 00:37:55.690 --> 00:38:03.778 heading 7007, glass articles were in sub 00:38:03.778 --> 00:38:09.591 heading -- as other automotive body 00:38:09.591 --> 00:38:09.592 parts. 00:38:09.592 --> 00:38:18.408 After the changes took effect in 2021, 00:38:18.408 --> 00:38:21.524 now those wind shields and windows are 00:38:21.524 --> 00:38:28.653 provided for in sub heading 870822. 00:38:28.653 --> 00:38:34.221 As front wind screens and so forth. 00:38:34.221 --> 00:38:37.746 That's all rulings involving such 00:38:37.746 --> 00:38:43.030 articles prior to 2021 or evoked by 00:38:43.030 --> 00:38:46.996 operation of law. 00:38:46.996 --> 00:38:53.276 And this is our last slide. I promise, 00:38:53.276 --> 00:38:55.809 it's the last slide [Chuckles] 00:38:55.809 --> 00:39:05.626 It's about a radiator of sections 17 00:39:05.626 --> 00:39:09.032 prior to 2017, Section 17 note 2 E 00:39:09.032 --> 00:39:12.313 stated that machines or apparatus of 00:39:12.313 --> 00:39:21.562 headings 8401 to 84709, articles of 00:39:21.562 --> 00:39:25.824 heading of these -- provided that 00:39:25.824 --> 00:39:32.374 constute integral motors. Articles -- 00:39:32.374 --> 00:39:35.785 are excluded from Section 17. 00:39:35.785 --> 00:39:38.499 As a result some temperature changing 00:39:38.499 --> 00:39:41.747 equipment used with articles of Section 00:39:41.747 --> 00:39:51.068 17 such as vehicles, air craft were in 00:39:51.068 --> 00:39:58.531 heading 8419. However, after 2017, the 00:39:58.531 --> 00:40:03.935 legal notes were changed to include 00:40:03.935 --> 00:40:06.346 other than the radiators for the 00:40:06.346 --> 00:40:08.783 articles of this section. 00:40:08.783 --> 00:40:16.343 Which means that all rulings, prior to 00:40:16.343 --> 00:40:17.469 2017, involving temperature changing 00:40:17.469 --> 00:40:23.591 equipment with vehicles, for vehicles, 00:40:23.591 --> 00:40:27.843 or other articles of Section 17 are 00:40:27.843 --> 00:40:33.965 revoked by operation of law. And that's 00:40:33.965 --> 00:40:36.785 it. 00:40:36.785 --> 00:40:41.785 Now, does anyone have any questions? 00:40:41.785 --> 00:40:47.595 [Pause for questions]. 00:40:47.595 --> 00:40:50.313 Sandra? Any questions? 00:40:50.313 --> 00:40:53.996 >> SANDRA WALIA: No previous questions, 00:40:53.996 --> 00:40:54.156 no. 00:40:54.156 --> 00:40:57.000 >> LIANA ALVAREZ: Someone had a raised 00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:01.534 hand? Do you want to top off a 00:41:01.534 --> 00:41:02.097 question? 00:41:02.097 --> 00:41:07.093 [Pause for questions] 00:41:07.093 --> 00:41:10.094 >> HOST: There's a question in the chat 00:41:10.094 --> 00:41:12.217 box. You said earlier an item cannot be 00:41:12.217 --> 00:41:15.624 considered a part if it's a separate and 00:41:15.624 --> 00:41:17.749 distinct identity. Can you expand what 00:41:17.749 --> 00:41:19.746 makes that difference? 00:41:19.746 --> 00:41:23.432 >> LIANA ALVAREZ: Distinct and commercial 00:41:23.432 --> 00:41:28.154 entity. Let me go back. Hang on. Is 00:41:28.154 --> 00:41:33.252 this an imported item is not a part if 00:41:33.252 --> 00:41:34.965 it's a separate and distinct commercial 00:41:34.965 --> 00:41:39.095 entity. 00:41:39.095 --> 00:41:43.497 So, let me explain it, I guess, in 00:41:43.497 --> 00:41:49.746 better terms. If an article is 00:41:49.746 --> 00:41:56.719 described, it's described as a distinct 00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:59.559 entity, then it would be classified as 00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:03.282 that entity. For example, I always 00:42:03.282 --> 00:42:07.966 bring that example with let's say, 00:42:07.966 --> 00:42:11.934 automotive seats. 00:42:11.934 --> 00:42:19.623 Automotive seats are not exclusively 00:42:19.623 --> 00:42:23.594 excluded from Section 17. However, 00:42:23.594 --> 00:42:27.595 seats are specifically provided for in 00:42:27.595 --> 00:42:30.279 chapter 94. 00:42:30.279 --> 00:42:34.121 As a result, we don't classify automotive 00:42:34.121 --> 00:42:35.966 seats as parts of vehicles. They have 00:42:35.966 --> 00:42:39.532 their own distinctive, commercial 00:42:39.532 --> 00:42:45.500 entity. And if they are as such, we 00:42:45.500 --> 00:42:47.494 don't classify them as parts. 00:42:47.494 --> 00:42:51.467 So does that make sense? 00:42:51.467 --> 00:42:56.754 [Pause]. 00:42:56.754 --> 00:43:00.594 Did somebody ask about the information 00:43:00.594 --> 00:43:08.245 slide? Okay. I'm going backwards. I 00:43:08.245 --> 00:43:10.416 have my contact information, hang on a 00:43:10.416 --> 00:43:15.937 second. I'm getting there. 00:43:15.937 --> 00:43:18.059 All right this is my contact information. 00:43:18.059 --> 00:43:26.033 Again, just one note that I would like 00:43:26.033 --> 00:43:30.030 to make, is if you have questions about 00:43:30.030 --> 00:43:32.150 a particular product, I will not be able 00:43:32.150 --> 00:43:36.137 to answer by e-mail or even a phone 00:43:36.137 --> 00:43:41.532 call. You should probably seek binding 00:43:41.532 --> 00:43:47.494 ruling for such article. I can always 00:43:47.494 --> 00:43:55.620 discuss certain terminologies or 00:43:55.620 --> 00:43:58.751 regulations that oversee certain 00:43:58.751 --> 00:44:02.597 products. But we can't really discuss a 00:44:02.597 --> 00:44:07.408 classification of a merchandise by 00:44:07.408 --> 00:44:07.561 e-mail. 00:44:07.561 --> 00:44:12.405 So, if you do have any questions 00:44:12.405 --> 00:44:15.252 regarding particular articles, I would 00:44:15.252 --> 00:44:18.931 strongly suggest filing for binding 00:44:18.931 --> 00:44:30.745 ruling. Or seek -- seek advice from, um, 00:44:30.745 --> 00:44:33.868 automotive and air space centers of 00:44:33.868 --> 00:44:36.159 excellence and expertise if your 00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:41.558 shipment is eminent. 00:44:41.558 --> 00:44:43.119 >> There was a question. If you could 00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:45.528 give an example of the last slide? I 00:44:45.528 --> 00:44:49.093 believe that might have been 32? 00:44:49.093 --> 00:44:57.057 >> LIANA ALVAREZ: Uh, okay. Um, are you 00:44:57.057 --> 00:45:06.433 asking for an example -- for ruling on 00:45:06.433 --> 00:45:10.715 radiators? Or temperature changing 00:45:10.715 --> 00:45:14.682 apparatus? I'm not sure what example 00:45:14.682 --> 00:45:19.091 are you looking for? Can you please 00:45:19.091 --> 00:45:21.807 explain? 00:45:21.807 --> 00:45:32.187 [Pause]. 00:45:32.187 --> 00:45:34.592 I don't have any particular rulings or 00:45:34.592 --> 00:45:44.280 examples of rulings about certain engine 00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:52.096 coolants. So basically, if you do have 00:45:52.096 --> 00:45:54.936 an engine cooler, within the vehicle, 00:45:54.936 --> 00:45:59.341 and previously it was classified in 00:45:59.341 --> 00:46:04.469 heading 8419 as a temperature changing 00:46:04.469 --> 00:46:12.435 apparatus, after this note was 00:46:12.435 --> 00:46:15.401 implemented in 2017, we started 00:46:15.401 --> 00:46:19.844 classifying such engine cooling 00:46:19.844 --> 00:46:27.933 apparatus' in heading 8708. Does that 00:46:27.933 --> 00:46:29.621 answer your question? I don't have any 00:46:29.621 --> 00:46:33.185 examples. My only example would be 00:46:33.185 --> 00:46:34.186 engine coolant. 00:46:34.186 --> 00:46:39.154 >> I see one more question. Ruling 00:46:39.154 --> 00:46:44.158 K83251 is not listed as being revoked -- 00:46:44.158 --> 00:46:47.968 this seems a similar product. But 00:46:47.968 --> 00:46:50.811 remains under 8708. 00:46:50.811 --> 00:46:52.526 >> LIANA ALVAREZ: I will have to 00:46:52.526 --> 00:46:55.936 research. Can you send me that question 00:46:55.936 --> 00:47:00.777 by e-mail. Yeah. Whoever asked that 00:47:00.777 --> 00:47:04.215 question, you could send by e-mail and I 00:47:04.215 --> 00:47:06.352 will review and we can reach out to 00:47:06.352 --> 00:47:08.743 headquarters and see what happened 00:47:08.743 --> 00:47:08.744 there. 00:47:08.744 --> 00:47:12.869 >> That seems to be all the questions for 00:47:12.869 --> 00:47:15.156 now. One more. Regarding the super 00:47:15.156 --> 00:47:23.092 charger, wouldn't Section 1602 override? 00:47:23.092 --> 00:47:29.863 And specific -- takes part of 00:47:29.863 --> 00:47:31.655 provision? 00:47:31.655 --> 00:47:33.909 >> LIANA ALVAREZ: Yes, that's right. I 00:47:33.909 --> 00:47:37.906 think in this case, in the case -- what 00:47:37.906 --> 00:47:50.841 was it, 1955? The super chargers at the 00:47:50.841 --> 00:47:54.126 time were parts. And the point of the 00:47:54.126 --> 00:47:57.971 court case wasn't really where we 00:47:57.971 --> 00:48:03.624 classify super chargers. It's how we 00:48:03.624 --> 00:48:10.312 determine whether an imported article is 00:48:10.312 --> 00:48:11.588 a part or not. 00:48:11.588 --> 00:48:14.155 That's the importance of this court case. 00:48:14.155 --> 00:48:16.030 00:48:16.030 --> 00:48:18.998 [Pause]. 00:48:18.998 --> 00:48:22.280 Again, so many things could have taken 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:28.810 place within the last 70 years that may 00:48:28.810 --> 00:48:33.369 overtake this provision. Have overtaken 00:48:33.369 --> 00:48:37.343 this provision -- sorry. 00:48:37.343 --> 00:48:41.783 >> That's it for the questions. 00:48:41.783 --> 00:48:46.152 >> LIANA ALVAREZ: Okay. 00:48:46.152 --> 00:48:49.281 [Pause]. 00:48:49.281 --> 00:48:59.528 Thank you all. 00:48:59.528 --> 00:49:03.962 >> HOST: This concludes our webinar for 00:49:03.962 --> 00:49:08.340 the afternoon. This will be posted on 00:49:08.340 --> 00:49:09.906 the CBP website. Thank you for joining 00:49:14.749 --> 00:49:14.749 [End of webinar