WEBVTT 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:08.248 Today's webinar is on Wood Packaging 00:00:08.248 --> 00:00:09.992 Material Risk Management Webinar. 00:00:09.992 --> 00:00:14.028 Today's webinar has anticipate the 00:00:14.028 --> 00:00:15.524 duration of one hour. We have a if 00:00:15.524 --> 00:00:18.032 you're housekeeping items. Everyone is 00:00:18.032 --> 00:00:21.056 on mute during the presentation so we 00:00:21.056 --> 00:00:23.564 keep the line cle background noise. 00:00:23.564 --> 00:00:27.312 You have questions or comments we invite 00:00:27.312 --> 00:00:30.344 you to type them in the chat box. We 00:00:30.344 --> 00:00:32.596 will answer as many questions we can 00:00:32.596 --> 00:00:36.092 from the chat box at the end. And the 00:00:36.092 --> 00:00:38.368 continuing education credit code will be 00:00:38.368 --> 00:00:40.620 placed in the chat box throughout the 00:00:40.620 --> 00:00:41.376 presentation. 00:00:41.376 --> 00:00:46.900 And today's webinar is being recorded. 00:00:46.900 --> 00:00:52.404 It will be posted this coming weeks. We 00:00:52.404 --> 00:00:55.932 have Dr. -- that is the acting manager 00:00:55.932 --> 00:01:02.468 for wood packing materials. Stephen 00:01:02.468 --> 00:01:15.001 Brady and before -- over to you. 00:01:15.001 --> 00:01:18.996 >> Phillip Baldauf:I'm Phillip 00:01:18.996 --> 00:01:22.024 Baldauf and as mentioned I'm the acting 00:01:22.024 --> 00:01:26.030 national policy manager for wood packing 00:01:26.030 --> 00:01:29.032 materials I'm with plant protection and 00:01:29.032 --> 00:01:31.060 PBQ. 00:01:31.060 --> 00:01:38.562 Next, (very hard to hear)Let 00:01:38.562 --> 00:01:40.844 me first take a step back. Help you 00:01:40.844 --> 00:01:43.336 understand why the USDA is concerned 00:01:43.336 --> 00:01:46.588 with wood packaging material and later I 00:01:46.588 --> 00:01:50.876 will tie it into how it relates to I SPM 00:01:50.876 --> 00:01:54.124 15. The Mission Statement for PPQ is 00:01:54.124 --> 00:01:57.124 shown here. I will read that. 00:01:57.124 --> 00:02:00.652 We safeguard U.S. or on the culture and 00:02:00.652 --> 00:02:07.194 natural resources against the entry and 00:02:07.194 --> 00:02:11.184 establishment environment significant 00:02:11.184 --> 00:02:16.436 pest and facilitate the safe trade of 00:02:16.436 --> 00:02:20.964 agricultural products. Next. 00:02:20.964 --> 00:02:23.468 Some may have seen or heard about a 00:02:23.468 --> 00:02:27.496 recent report put out by a United 00:02:27.496 --> 00:02:28.996 Nations partner organization. That is 00:02:28.996 --> 00:02:34.000 Title, assessment report on invasive 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:37.284 alien species and their control. Among 00:02:37.284 --> 00:02:41.780 other things this report said the 00:02:41.780 --> 00:02:47.060 estimate global cost in 2019 was grants 00:02:47.060 --> 00:02:56.100 24, billion, dollars. The diseases on 00:02:56.100 --> 00:02:58.844 packing material is a portion of the 00:02:58.844 --> 00:03:06.124 annual cost. Next. 00:03:06.124 --> 00:03:11.378 Wood packaging materials could harbor 00:03:11.378 --> 00:03:13.908 invasive pest and diseases that we don't 00:03:13.908 --> 00:03:16.400 want to introduce in the United 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:19.680 States. There is a precedent for this 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:21.658 thing occurring previously with three 00:03:21.658 --> 00:03:26.184 examples shown on the slide. The right 00:03:26.184 --> 00:03:31.720 there is an Asian beetle and the long 00:03:31.720 --> 00:03:38.468 horn beetle and the emerald ash Borer. 00:03:38.468 --> 00:03:42.496 They have cost the United States and I 00:03:42.496 --> 00:03:45.504 will talk about them later. There are 00:03:45.504 --> 00:03:48.784 other reaso addition to the biological 00:03:48.784 --> 00:03:51.532 pest risk that should concern shipers 00:03:51.532 --> 00:03:53.784 and folks involved with international 00:03:53.784 --> 00:03:54.532 trade. 00:03:54.532 --> 00:03:57.808 There are fines. Additional expenses. 00:03:57.808 --> 00:04:01.308 Lost revenue and time delays that occur 00:04:01.308 --> 00:04:11.350 when shipments --(echoing)(audio 00:04:11.350 --> 00:04:25.405 issues))) 00:04:25.405 --> 00:04:27.900 >> PHILLIP BALDAUF: (audio 00:04:27.900 --> 00:05:15.748 issues)Those 00:05:15.748 --> 00:05:18.280 involved in trade, have options 00:05:18.280 --> 00:05:26.788 (echoing)Less 00:05:26.788 --> 00:05:28.568 expensive. And could be easily 00:05:28.568 --> 00:05:31.064 reconditioned and recycled. Which is 00:05:31.064 --> 00:05:35.348 part of the reason over 1.6 billion 00:05:35.348 --> 00:05:37.596 palettes are in use daily that is in the 00:05:37.596 --> 00:05:40.092 United States alone. 00:05:40.092 --> 00:05:42.848 With so much trade going on across the 00:05:42.848 --> 00:05:46.876 globe and wood packing materials is 00:05:46.876 --> 00:05:49.884 associated with 80% of consignments, 00:05:49.884 --> 00:05:52.656 (echoing)Plus 00:05:52.656 --> 00:05:55.412 the risk to our natural resources from 00:05:55.412 --> 00:05:58.908 unregulated wood packaging material is 00:05:58.908 --> 00:06:02.692 makes to regulate the wood packaging 00:06:02.692 --> 00:06:04.936 material to minimize the risk. That is 00:06:04.936 --> 00:06:08.444 where the IPPEC or international plant 00:06:08.444 --> 00:06:19.249 protection convention comes in. Next 00:06:19.249 --> 00:06:20.752 >> there are feedback on the 00:06:20.752 --> 00:06:23.248 last two slides a lot of people are 00:06:23.248 --> 00:06:25.752 asking if you could go back the last two 00:06:25.752 --> 00:06:26.505 slides. 00:06:26.505 --> 00:06:28.036 >> PHILLIP BALDAUF: I sure can. 00:06:28.036 --> 00:06:32.537 00:06:32.537 --> 00:06:34.836 >> Stephen Brady you were 00:06:34.836 --> 00:06:35.533 echoing. 00:06:35.533 --> 00:06:39.312 >> Phillip Baldauf let's go 00:06:39.312 --> 00:06:41.064 back to the slide with the three 00:06:41.064 --> 00:06:41.838 Beatles. 00:06:41.838 --> 00:06:45.320 >> Stephen Brady thank you 00:06:45.320 --> 00:06:45.817 Phillip. 00:06:45.817 --> 00:06:53.848 >> Phillip Baldauf I will go 00:06:53.848 --> 00:07:36.716 back to the Beatles slide. Can we go 00:07:36.716 --> 00:07:37.224 back. 00:07:37.224 --> 00:07:40.224 (echoing)There 00:07:40.224 --> 00:07:47.500 we go. Now, the echo is back. Let's 00:07:47.500 --> 00:07:56.528 give it a minute. Please bear with us. 00:07:56.528 --> 00:07:57.036 00:07:57.036 --> 00:08:11.316 (echoing)All 00:08:11.316 --> 00:09:09.188 right. You still hear the echo. 00:09:09.188 --> 00:09:15.724 Let me try --(echoing)I 00:09:15.724 --> 00:09:19.476 will go on. And let's 00:09:19.476 --> 00:09:57.564 hopefully-(echoing))There 00:09:57.564 --> 00:10:02.104 is the Asian longhorn beating, pine tree 00:10:02.104 --> 00:10:07.352 beetle and the emerald ash Borer. These 00:10:07.352 --> 00:10:10.376 invasive pest like them, have already 00:10:10.376 --> 00:10:15.632 occurred in the United States and caused 00:10:15.632 --> 00:10:18.632 expensive (indiscernible). 00:10:18.632 --> 00:10:21.908 (echoing)I 00:10:21.908 --> 00:10:23.408 will speak about them in the United 00:10:23.408 --> 00:10:30.196 States. Later i presentation. There 00:10:30.196 --> 00:10:32.940 are other reasons in addition to the 00:10:32.940 --> 00:10:41.972 (indiscernible) that should concern and 00:10:41.972 --> 00:10:44.008 folks involved with international trade. 00:10:44.008 --> 00:10:45.760 00:10:45.760 --> 00:10:50.004 There are fines, additional expenses, 00:10:50.004 --> 00:10:54.288 lost revenue, and time delays. That 00:10:54.288 --> 00:10:58.784 occur when shipments with non-compliant 00:10:58.784 --> 00:11:03.036 wood packaging are impacted. 00:11:03.036 --> 00:11:21.097 Next, (still echoing)Let's 00:11:21.097 --> 00:11:23.604 talk more (indiscernible). And their 00:11:23.604 --> 00:11:26.104 involvement in safe trade. 00:11:26.104 --> 00:11:31.128 Safe trade is important. 00:11:31.128 --> 00:11:37.165 (indiscernible). In safe trade. . 00:11:37.165 --> 00:11:41.412 STUDENT: Excuse me, (echo) is 00:11:41.412 --> 00:11:46.441 there an echo when I speak as well. 00:11:46.441 --> 00:11:47.940 >> PHILLIP BALDAUF: Yes. 00:11:47.940 --> 00:12:04.973 Yes. Yes, there is. 00:12:04.973 --> 00:12:10.504 >> Lalita Polisetty:it is very 00:12:10.504 --> 00:12:37.824 difficult (echo). 00:12:37.824 --> 00:13:12.645 (echoing). 00:13:12.645 --> 00:13:15.685 >> Okay. Phillip try it now. 00:13:15.685 --> 00:13:16.424 >> PHILLIP BALDAUF: Testing. 00:13:16.424 --> 00:13:20.684 Testing. I didn't hear any echo. All 00:13:20.684 --> 00:13:23.464 right. So let's go back again to the 00:13:23.464 --> 00:13:28.956 slide with the three Beatles. beetles. 00:13:28.956 --> 00:13:37.496 00:13:37.496 --> 00:13:40.496 Thank you for bearing with us. Wood 00:13:40.496 --> 00:13:44.276 packaging material in foreign pest and 00:13:44.276 --> 00:13:47.272 disease we don't want to introduce 00:13:47.272 --> 00:13:48.524 norest establish in the United States. 00:13:48.524 --> 00:13:52.048 There is a precedence of this occurring 00:13:52.048 --> 00:13:55.052 previously in the three examples. Left 00:13:55.052 --> 00:13:59.308 to right is the Asian longhorn beetle, 00:13:59.308 --> 00:14:05.336 pine shoot beetle and emerald ash borer 00:14:05.336 --> 00:14:08.872 they caused expensive damages in the 00:14:08.872 --> 00:14:10.368 United States. I will speak about them 00:14:10.368 --> 00:14:14.115 and the impact later i presentation. 00:14:14.115 --> 00:14:15.868 There are other reasons in addition to 00:14:15.868 --> 00:14:22.644 the biological pest risk in wood 00:14:22.644 --> 00:14:26.680 packaging. There are fines, expenses, 00:14:26.680 --> 00:14:28.928 lost revenue and time delays that occur 00:14:28.928 --> 00:14:39.208 when shipments with non-compliant wood, 00:14:39.208 --> 00:14:42.492 packing material is detected. Safe trade 00:14:42.492 --> 00:14:45.496 is important for any country. I want to 00:14:45.496 --> 00:14:49.748 emphasize the word "Safe" in safe trade. 00:14:49.748 --> 00:14:53.276 Unsafe trade in wood packaging material 00:14:53.276 --> 00:14:56.776 could damage the economy when foreign 00:14:56.776 --> 00:14:59.780 best associated with wood packaging 00:14:59.780 --> 00:15:06.552 material introduce and establish new -- 00:15:06.552 --> 00:15:10.836 anything from mangoes, , flowers and 00:15:10.836 --> 00:15:16.336 celery and non-parishable like electrons 00:15:16.336 --> 00:15:19.616 come in. Those within trade, have 00:15:19.616 --> 00:15:23.624 options other than using wood packaging 00:15:23.624 --> 00:15:27.152 material it is less expensive and could 00:15:27.152 --> 00:15:40.188 be recycle that is why, 1.6 billion 00:15:40.188 --> 00:15:42.424 pallets are used. They are associated 00:15:42.424 --> 00:15:45.188 with 80 betters of consignments moving 00:15:45.188 --> 00:15:47.960 in international trade, plus the risks 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:52.968 to our natural resources from unregulate 00:15:52.968 --> 00:15:56.744 packaging material is makes sense to 00:15:56.744 --> 00:16:00.504 minnize the risk. That is where the IPPC 00:16:00.504 --> 00:16:02.524 international plant protection 00:16:02.524 --> 00:16:08.776 convention comes in. International 00:16:08.776 --> 00:16:12.308 plant protection is possible because of 00:16:12.308 --> 00:16:15.060 United Nations. Or I PPC. . They are 00:16:15.060 --> 00:16:19.836 a multi lateral treaty with 184 00:16:19.836 --> 00:16:22.084 contracting parties. The goal is to 00:16:22.084 --> 00:16:24.584 protect the plant resources from the 00:16:24.584 --> 00:16:27.868 introduction and spread of pest. And to 00:16:27.868 --> 00:16:31.120 promote safe trade. Every contracting 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:33.620 party has a national plant organization 00:16:33.620 --> 00:16:38.396 or MPPO. 00:16:38.396 --> 00:16:42.194 NPPO represents the countries interest of 00:16:42.194 --> 00:16:47.184 the health or the -- they are 00:16:47.184 --> 00:16:50.684 responsible for their countries i 00:16:50.684 --> 00:16:53.684 regulations for plants, plant products 00:16:53.684 --> 00:16:56.460 and other items that could introduce and 00:16:56.460 --> 00:17:00.965 spread plant pest. They conduct 00:17:00.965 --> 00:17:04.488 programs for further spread of plant pest 00:17:04.488 --> 00:17:06.992 that entered their country. For 00:17:06.992 --> 00:17:08.988 example, the United States is a 00:17:08.988 --> 00:17:13.772 contracting party to I PPC. And the 00:17:13.772 --> 00:17:16.524 designated for the United States is 00:17:16.524 --> 00:17:18.560 USDA, PPQ. 00:17:18.560 --> 00:17:21.308 You could visit the IPPC website and look 00:17:21.308 --> 00:17:26.808 up the NPPO and contact information for 00:17:26.808 --> 00:17:28.592 each country that participates in the 00:17:28.592 --> 00:17:32.336 IPPC. The IPPC standards are based on 00:17:32.336 --> 00:17:34.088 the best science available. 00:17:34.088 --> 00:17:37.120 They provide the world with critical 00:17:37.120 --> 00:17:39.620 tools to negotiate sound international 00:17:39.620 --> 00:17:41.368 trade requirements. These [-P] stand 00:17:41.368 --> 00:17:44.404 arounds provide the consistent approach 00:17:44.404 --> 00:17:50.404 that they should follow when regulated 00:17:50.404 --> 00:17:53.684 imports and spread of plant pest through 00:17:53.684 --> 00:17:55.928 international trade. Once they are 00:17:55.928 --> 00:18:03.460 adopted internationally they are the 00:18:03.460 --> 00:18:05.217 benchmarks and source for trade and 00:18:05.217 --> 00:18:08.992 plant commodities under the World Trade 00:18:08.992 --> 00:18:13.996 Organization agreement on the sanitary 00:18:13.996 --> 00:18:16.780 measures. Next. 00:18:16.780 --> 00:18:19.520 The convention introduce international 00:18:19.520 --> 00:18:24.272 standards for I SPMs. As the main tool 00:18:24.272 --> 00:18:28.052 to achieve their goals to make it the 00:18:28.052 --> 00:18:30.611 global standard setting for plant 00:18:30.611 --> 00:18:33.564 health. That is taken from its IPPC 00:18:33.564 --> 00:18:36.336 website. On this slide, I will include 00:18:36.336 --> 00:18:40.836 reasons it is important to have a robust 00:18:40.836 --> 00:18:44.092 program. It follows the country to fall 00:18:44.092 --> 00:18:47.624 back on the signs used to establish the 00:18:47.624 --> 00:18:50.372 standards and gives country just started 00:18:50.372 --> 00:18:53.400 a framework to develop their NPPO. 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:58.652 And following the ISPM's. Offers 00:18:58.652 --> 00:19:00.928 protections against unfair claim 00:19:00.928 --> 00:19:03.432 practices made against your country. 00:19:03.432 --> 00:19:05.428 Next. 00:19:05.428 --> 00:19:12.212 ISP M 15 is the 15th ISP M standard and 00:19:12.212 --> 00:19:17.744 [O] governs wood packaging material has 00:19:17.744 --> 00:19:22.000 high risk of pest. Wood and wood 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:24.500 products and excluding paper products 00:19:24.500 --> 00:19:29.028 used to support protecting or carrying a 00:19:29.028 --> 00:19:32.064 commodity. This includes the wood 00:19:32.064 --> 00:19:34.308 packaging material to secure the 00:19:34.308 --> 00:19:37.556 commodity and doesn't remain with the 00:19:37.556 --> 00:19:40.564 commodity like a palette or crate 00:19:40.564 --> 00:19:41.092 would. 00:19:41.092 --> 00:19:42.336 Next. 00:19:42.336 --> 00:19:44.588 Wood packaging material that is not 00:19:44.588 --> 00:19:48.588 covered by I SPM 15 include process wood 00:19:48.588 --> 00:19:51.124 products or thin cut raw wood. Because 00:19:51.124 --> 00:19:55.128 these types of wood packaging material 00:19:55.128 --> 00:19:58.400 is lower risk of introducing pest. 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:00.156 Next. 00:20:00.156 --> 00:20:04.148 What other requirements of I SPM 15. 00:20:04.148 --> 00:20:07.936 Stated to be compliant, wood packaging 00:20:07.936 --> 00:20:10.180 material must have official mark. 00:20:10.180 --> 00:20:15.712 There is a lot that goes into making a 00:20:15.712 --> 00:20:20.496 mark, official I will get into that. 00:20:20.496 --> 00:20:23.000 Using the debarking requirements is part 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:27.500 of what is required to make ISP M 15 00:20:27.500 --> 00:20:32.282 mark, owe fishal. Keep in mind the bark 00:20:32.282 --> 00:20:37.024 doesn't mean bark free. There may be 00:20:37.024 --> 00:20:40.564 residual bark that is thereafter 00:20:40.564 --> 00:20:46.308 rebarking. But it when you have the 00:20:46.308 --> 00:20:48.096 requirements on the slide. There was a 00:20:48.096 --> 00:20:52.132 time it was not on the ISP M 15. That 00:20:52.132 --> 00:20:53.872 was changed in the current standard. 00:20:53.872 --> 00:20:57.124 The problem with bark is could 00:20:57.124 --> 00:20:59.116 interfere with fume irrigation 00:20:59.116 --> 00:21:00.876 treatments and when wood best are 00:21:00.876 --> 00:21:03.148 attracted to it even after treatments. 00:21:03.148 --> 00:21:05.656 These are why debarking regulations are 00:21:05.656 --> 00:21:10.940 part of I SPM 15. Next. 00:21:10.940 --> 00:21:14.188 Recall that to be compliant with ISP M 00:21:14.188 --> 00:21:17.180 15. The wood packaging material must 00:21:17.180 --> 00:21:21.220 have an official mark. They must be 00:21:21.220 --> 00:21:24.212 treated by improved treated method and 00:21:24.212 --> 00:21:28.004 the program must be runned under the 00:21:28.004 --> 00:21:34.248 preview of NPPO. The wood packaging 00:21:34.248 --> 00:21:39.776 material methods are heat treatment the 00:21:39.776 --> 00:21:46.284 tempt is at least 56 Celsius that is 133 00:21:46.284 --> 00:21:53.314 Fahrenheit for 30 minutes. Not any 00:21:53.314 --> 00:21:59.340 method of fume irrigation but monitored 00:21:59.340 --> 00:22:01.848 ensures concentrations are present for a 00:22:01.848 --> 00:22:05.096 sufficient amount of time. To kill wood 00:22:05.096 --> 00:22:07.872 packaging material pest. Like, there 00:22:07.872 --> 00:22:11.624 was change to the bark requirements there 00:22:11.624 --> 00:22:15.400 are changes to these treatments as well. 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:21.660 The total treatment for B Bro mind fume 00:22:21.660 --> 00:22:25.932 irrigation used to be 16 hours in 2006 00:22:25.932 --> 00:22:27.936 it was changes to 24 hours. 00:22:27.936 --> 00:22:32.220 I saw a video, that showed a treatment 00:22:32.220 --> 00:22:35.720 applicator that placed it in back of a 00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:37.996 trailer that treated the wood packaging 00:22:37.996 --> 00:22:41.748 material with the export. After securin 00:22:41.748 --> 00:22:45.500 opening the canister, the applicator ran 00:22:45.500 --> 00:22:48.504 and jumped out of the trailer and taped 00:22:48.504 --> 00:22:52.276 the skull image to the trailer doors it 00:22:52.276 --> 00:22:55.532 is fair to say the wood packaging 00:22:55.532 --> 00:23:01.064 material in the trailer was fumigated by 00:23:01.064 --> 00:23:07.588 meth yl pro mind. It was not monitored. 00:23:07.588 --> 00:23:13.088 The wood packaging material would not 00:23:13.088 --> 00:23:15.868 qualify for the mark. There is other 00:23:15.868 --> 00:23:18.372 approved treatment methods that are 00:23:18.372 --> 00:23:23.128 dialected heat abbreviated DH. And 00:23:23.128 --> 00:23:25.660 fluoride fume irrigation that is SF. 00:23:25.660 --> 00:23:28.656 These had not had wide acceptance. I 00:23:28.656 --> 00:23:32.192 mean, by that is even though the IPPC has 00:23:32.192 --> 00:23:35.932 approve treatments individually NPPOs 00:23:35.932 --> 00:23:37.936 still have their independence to accept 00:23:37.936 --> 00:23:41.472 and adopt what the IPPC approved. In 00:23:41.472 --> 00:23:44.468 this case, many NPPOs including PPQ in 00:23:44.468 --> 00:23:48.504 the United States, has not formerly 00:23:48.504 --> 00:23:53.248 accepted key and fluoride treatments. 00:23:53.248 --> 00:23:57.036 They respect each country to make the 00:23:57.036 --> 00:23:58.036 decision. 00:23:58.036 --> 00:24:05.028 Next. Examples of wood packaging 00:24:05.028 --> 00:24:08.064 material include but not limited to, 00:24:08.064 --> 00:24:11.816 palettes, bracing, and crates that are 00:24:11.816 --> 00:24:15.064 shown here. Skins and palette colors 00:24:15.064 --> 00:24:18.344 and containers and box cases and bins 00:24:18.344 --> 00:24:24.624 and reals and drums. Load boards and 00:24:24.624 --> 00:24:27.128 Dunnage. Next. 00:24:27.128 --> 00:24:31.376 Official components of the ISP M 15 00:24:31.376 --> 00:24:33.908 standard for the mark are shown here. 00:24:33.908 --> 00:24:36.656 And keep in mind, that no additional 00:24:36.656 --> 00:24:39.440 documentation or paper certification is 00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:42.936 riered. required this is different 00:24:42.936 --> 00:24:47.688 from agriculture commodities that need 00:24:47.688 --> 00:24:51.216 the certificate. The only time they get 00:24:51.216 --> 00:24:53.716 the final certificate is when the wood 00:24:53.716 --> 00:24:56.972 packaging material is m commodity and 00:24:56.972 --> 00:25:02.752 not to facilitate the transport of other 00:25:02.752 --> 00:25:06.000 commodity. It needs a mark with no best 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:08.036 present. Wood packaging material that 00:25:08.036 --> 00:25:12.532 is infested is not properly treated 00:25:12.532 --> 00:25:16.032 deemed and not compliant regardless if 00:25:16.032 --> 00:25:24.060 the ISP M 15 mark is authentic. 00:25:24.060 --> 00:25:27.592 The mark has several components. The 00:25:27.592 --> 00:25:30.596 IPPC symbol or logo. We call that the 00:25:30.596 --> 00:25:34.876 IPPC international plant prevent 00:25:34.876 --> 00:25:38.444 convention that is the the contracting 00:25:38.444 --> 00:25:42.904 countries. The logo slightly resembles 00:25:42.904 --> 00:25:46.408 wheat and referred to a wheat stamp. 00:25:46.408 --> 00:25:52.197 XX, signifies the couch country code for 00:25:52.197 --> 00:25:57.192 where it was produced. There must be a 00:25:57.192 --> 00:25:59.472 hyphen that is the facility code shown 00:25:59.472 --> 00:26:01.968 in the example as,000. 00:26:01.968 --> 00:26:09.748 Which signifies the facility number that 00:26:09.748 --> 00:26:11.248 did the material in the country. 00:26:11.248 --> 00:26:14.500 YY is method of treatment. It could say 00:26:14.500 --> 00:26:23.788 HT, heat treatment. Or MB, Ment hyl 00:26:23.788 --> 00:26:27.316 fume irrigation. It is registered for 00:26:27.316 --> 00:26:30.808 each country like a trademark. This 00:26:30.808 --> 00:26:33.064 legal registration allows each country a 00:26:33.064 --> 00:26:37.344 legal route to prosecute those that may 00:26:37.344 --> 00:26:39.340 fabricate their own mark. 00:26:39.340 --> 00:26:42.344 Wood packing material marked and 00:26:42.344 --> 00:26:46.628 certified with compliance with ISP 15 00:26:46.628 --> 00:26:53.160 may be reused. The one repaired or 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.160 remanufactured must be recertified under 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:59.904 the heat treatment or method I'll 00:26:59.904 --> 00:27:04.436 options. Your Palle te was compliant 00:27:04.436 --> 00:27:06.692 you repaired it with a new board that 00:27:06.692 --> 00:27:09.944 was not treated, the palette must be 00:27:09.944 --> 00:27:13.216 retreated and recertified to be 00:27:13.216 --> 00:27:19.472 compliant again. Next. Other mark 00:27:19.472 --> 00:27:21.500 requirements are the mark must be 00:27:21.500 --> 00:27:27.252 legible. Durable, visible even when the 00:27:27.252 --> 00:27:30.280 wood packaging material is in use not 00:27:30.280 --> 00:27:32.536 transferable. The mark must not been 00:27:32.536 --> 00:27:38.356 hand drawn or in red or orange colors. 00:27:38.356 --> 00:27:44.068 And still more ISP M 15 requirements it 00:27:44.068 --> 00:27:47.568 must be written within a square or 00:27:47.568 --> 00:27:51.844 rectangular box with a vertical line 00:27:51.844 --> 00:27:55.592 that separates the logo from the code. 00:27:55.592 --> 00:27:59.628 Notice the standards were updated over 00:27:59.628 --> 00:28:02.632 time. There were a time there other 00:28:02.632 --> 00:28:06.876 information DB for debark was 00:28:06.876 --> 00:28:08.631 permissible. That is no longer the 00:28:08.631 --> 00:28:12.160 case. I have heard older wood packing 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:14.908 material in use with the DB in the mark 00:28:14.908 --> 00:28:16.164 is accepted. 00:28:16.164 --> 00:28:19.688 Next. 00:28:19.688 --> 00:28:22.696 Shown here are examples of compliant ISP 00:28:22.696 --> 00:28:27.224 M 15 markings that could be stamped. 00:28:27.224 --> 00:28:30.224 Stencils or branded on to the packaging 00:28:30.224 --> 00:28:33.248 material. There is additional 00:28:33.248 --> 00:28:35.252 information on this material like the T 00:28:35.252 --> 00:28:40.504 P, and fit okay. That additional 00:28:40.504 --> 00:28:42.784 information is outside of the borders of 00:28:42.784 --> 00:28:48.532 the mark. That is permissible. Next. 00:28:48.532 --> 00:28:50.816 Wood packaging material that is coming 00:28:50.816 --> 00:28:53.312 into the United States and encountered 00:28:53.312 --> 00:28:57.320 by U.S. customs and border inspectors 00:28:57.320 --> 00:29:00.344 during the course of inspection and not 00:29:00.344 --> 00:29:02.596 appropriately marked or the mark is not 00:29:02.596 --> 00:29:05.352 legible is assumed to be untreated by 00:29:05.352 --> 00:29:09.132 the approved methods and non-compliant 00:29:09.132 --> 00:29:13.124 with ISP M 15. The mark is not 00:29:13.124 --> 00:29:17.384 official. The mark shown on the wood 00:29:17.384 --> 00:29:20.912 packaging material is non-compliant due 00:29:20.912 --> 00:29:23.408 to not being legible. I will go through 00:29:23.408 --> 00:29:26.444 the slides quickly. They will show 00:29:26.444 --> 00:29:33.444 additional non-compliant marks. Next. 00:29:33.444 --> 00:29:36.976 These marks are not legible. That makes 00:29:36.976 --> 00:29:37.716 them non-compliant. 00:29:37.716 --> 00:29:41.472 Next. 00:29:41.472 --> 00:29:44.256 These marks are not legible. That also 00:29:44.256 --> 00:29:47.508 makes them non-compliant. 00:29:47.508 --> 00:29:51.260 But non-legible mark on the wood 00:29:51.260 --> 00:29:56.536 packaging on the left is in the 00:29:56.536 --> 00:29:58.288 background. Foreground you could see a 00:29:58.288 --> 00:30:03.564 wood boarding pest present in the wood 00:30:03.564 --> 00:30:06.068 packaging material that makes it 00:30:06.068 --> 00:30:07.820 non-compliant. Next. 00:30:07.820 --> 00:30:11.848 These marks are not legible. That makes 00:30:11.848 --> 00:30:13.596 them non-compliant. 00:30:13.596 --> 00:30:17.380 Next. 00:30:17.380 --> 00:30:21.128 These marks are not durable and 00:30:21.128 --> 00:30:23.128 transferable that makes them 00:30:23.128 --> 00:30:24.632 non-compliant. 00:30:24.632 --> 00:30:27.384 Next. 00:30:27.384 --> 00:30:31.160 These marks are hand drawn. That makes 00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:32.408 them non-compliant. 00:30:32.408 --> 00:30:35.912 Next. 00:30:35.912 --> 00:30:38.444 The mark on the left is non-compliant as 00:30:38.444 --> 00:30:44.948 the IPPC logo must closely resembles the 00:30:44.948 --> 00:30:48.472 official logo displayed on the right. 00:30:48.472 --> 00:30:49.224 Next. 00:30:49.224 --> 00:30:52.756 These marks are non-compliant as the IPPC 00:30:52.756 --> 00:30:58.756 logo must closely be like the owe fish 00:30:58.756 --> 00:31:00.000 aloe go. 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:03.288 Here are more examples of non-compliant 00:31:03.288 --> 00:31:09.288 marks that don't resembles the approved 00:31:09.288 --> 00:31:12.312 marks. Next. Here are more examples of 00:31:12.312 --> 00:31:16.072 non-compliant marks that don't closely 00:31:16.072 --> 00:31:20.572 resembles the IPPC marks. They lack 00:31:20.572 --> 00:31:23.100 borderline and vertical line that 00:31:23.100 --> 00:31:29.132 separate it from the code. Here are 00:31:29.132 --> 00:31:32.376 more examples that don't resembles the 00:31:32.376 --> 00:31:36.384 IPPC 15 marks. They lack a border and 00:31:36.384 --> 00:31:38.412 vertical line that separates the logo 00:31:38.412 --> 00:31:42.660 from the code. Next. 00:31:42.660 --> 00:31:45.948 And another example, of the non-compliant 00:31:45.948 --> 00:31:51.944 mark due to the same reason. Next. 00:31:51.944 --> 00:31:54.948 This mark, is non-compliant as it 00:31:54.948 --> 00:31:59.472 includes NT treatment code as reminder, 00:31:59.472 --> 00:32:02.472 the approved treatment codes are HT and 00:32:02.472 --> 00:32:07.504 NB to lesser extent DH, SF, there is no 00:32:07.504 --> 00:32:08.756 NT. 00:32:08.756 --> 00:32:11.752 Next E.. 00:32:11.752 --> 00:32:14.540 The picture on this slideshow examples of 00:32:14.540 --> 00:32:20.068 bark and wood packing material that is 00:32:20.068 --> 00:32:22.566 larger than the bark allowed. Making it 00:32:22.566 --> 00:32:34.348 non-compliant with ISP M 15. Next. 00:32:34.348 --> 00:32:36.848 They find holes in the packing material 00:32:36.848 --> 00:32:39.604 that is a pest investtation. . That is 00:32:39.604 --> 00:32:42.892 a pest infestation that makes it 00:32:42.892 --> 00:32:46.884 non-compliant with ISPM 15. Even if it 00:32:46.884 --> 00:33:01.196 has a, a mark. They find Frass on or on 00:33:01.196 --> 00:33:03.944 the packaging material that is an 00:33:03.944 --> 00:33:06.440 indication of a past infestation as 00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:07.948 well. 00:33:07.948 --> 00:33:10.696 I want to shift gears. Talk about what 00:33:10.696 --> 00:33:12.724 could happen when wood packaging 00:33:12.724 --> 00:33:15.972 material that is non-compliant with ISPM 00:33:15.972 --> 00:33:21.256 15 gets through. This topic is near and 00:33:21.256 --> 00:33:23.756 dear to my heart I've been the Director 00:33:23.756 --> 00:33:27.760 of The Ohio beetle ratification 00:33:27.760 --> 00:33:31.540 program. Asian longhorn beetle was 00:33:31.540 --> 00:33:34.536 introduced in Ohio in wood packaging 00:33:34.536 --> 00:33:37.068 material from Asia. The pictures on the 00:33:37.068 --> 00:33:39.320 right is before on top and after on the 00:33:39.320 --> 00:33:41.820 bottom. 00:33:41.820 --> 00:33:46.848 They occurred to rad indicate it from 00:33:46.848 --> 00:33:49.596 Ohio. There are many more properties 00:33:49.596 --> 00:33:55.636 similarly done for the same reason. . 00:33:55.636 --> 00:33:58.628 Imagine the impact of property values, 00:33:58.628 --> 00:34:03.416 cost for heating and cools and tree and 00:34:03.416 --> 00:34:05.912 destruction of life during and after 00:34:05.912 --> 00:34:08.696 tree removals. Additional cost is the 00:34:08.696 --> 00:34:10.696 cost of running the program for the 00:34:10.696 --> 00:34:13.196 beetle ratification that is ongoing in 00:34:13.196 --> 00:34:15.452 four states. 00:34:15.452 --> 00:34:20.511 Asian longhorn beetle with 200 million 00:34:20.511 --> 00:34:24.972 trees removed for potential to cause 00:34:24.972 --> 00:34:27.260 more damage than the (indiscernible). 00:34:27.260 --> 00:34:32.256 Next. 00:34:32.256 --> 00:34:36.012 Emerald ash Borer is another invasive 00:34:36.012 --> 00:34:39.288 pest from Asia that is introduce in 00:34:39.288 --> 00:34:41.288 North America to wood packaging 00:34:41.288 --> 00:34:46.320 material. In some area is it is 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:49.076 difficult to find a ash tree. Prior to 00:34:49.076 --> 00:34:52.352 it introduce it was a major component in 00:34:52.352 --> 00:34:56.600 the rural landscape. The forest values 00:34:56.600 --> 00:35:02.636 the lost to 20 to 60 billion, dollars. 00:35:02.636 --> 00:35:06.132 Next. The last example I will share, 00:35:06.132 --> 00:35:10.168 is the pine shoot beetle that enter in 00:35:10.168 --> 00:35:12.412 wood packaging material. The first 00:35:12.412 --> 00:35:15.664 population detected in 1992. The beetle 00:35:15.664 --> 00:35:22.452 is capable to damage pine trees. They 00:35:22.452 --> 00:35:24.200 impact in the United States is not near 00:35:24.200 --> 00:35:26.196 to the extent of the other two examples 00:35:26.196 --> 00:35:28.972 of invasive pest I spoke about. In 00:35:28.972 --> 00:35:35.264 fact, in 2020 the USDA removed the cure 00:35:35.264 --> 00:35:37.760 quarantine for the beetle that allows 20 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:43.540 states with in fested area to manage the 00:35:43.540 --> 00:35:46.804 best approach within boundaries. Next. 00:35:46.804 --> 00:35:48.789 . 00:35:48.789 --> 00:35:51.324 Now, I want to share three important 00:35:51.324 --> 00:35:54.320 resources. The first is the direct link 00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:59.856 to I SPM 15. The second is USDA website 00:35:59.856 --> 00:36:04.100 on wood packaging material. Third, IPPC 00:36:04.100 --> 00:36:08.636 website. You could look up the NPPO for 00:36:08.636 --> 00:36:10.140 each country that participate in the I 00:36:10.140 --> 00:36:11.888 PPC. 00:36:11.888 --> 00:36:14.636 Next. 00:36:14.636 --> 00:36:18.172 Thank you for your time. Sorry for the 00:36:18.172 --> 00:36:20.164 technical difficulties we will move on 00:36:20.164 --> 00:36:23.200 to the next presentation offered by 00:36:23.200 --> 00:36:28.948 U.S. customs and border. After the 00:36:28.948 --> 00:36:30.444 presentation there is time for questions 00:36:30.444 --> 00:36:36.477 and answers. 00:36:36.477 --> 00:36:37.976 >> STEPHEN BRADY: We will share 00:36:37.976 --> 00:36:42.508 a video that the Port of hoot Houston 00:36:42.508 --> 00:36:48.508 put together how they look for in 00:36:48.508 --> 00:36:51.292 festation and compliance of wood 00:36:51.292 --> 00:36:54.037 packaging material. 00:36:54.037 --> 00:37:15.329 (non-captioned video)(non-captioned 00:37:15.329 --> 00:37:15.329 video) 00:37:15.329 --> 00:37:21.112 >> You could see this is a 00:37:21.112 --> 00:37:23.848 crate on top of a flat rack that arrived 00:37:23.848 --> 00:37:28.384 on a vessel. We will look at the stamp 00:37:28.384 --> 00:37:30.888 and condition of the wood. And any 00:37:30.888 --> 00:37:34.168 signs of activity. We observed there is 00:37:34.168 --> 00:37:36.416 pest activity and you could see, there 00:37:36.416 --> 00:37:41.706 is various holes they filled the 00:37:41.706 --> 00:37:45.258 gallery. Moving further down. We will 00:37:45.258 --> 00:37:47.200 see signs of pest activity here. We 00:37:47.200 --> 00:37:50.480 look at the IPPC markings on the wood 00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.480 packaging material we see the marking is 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:57.512 IP CC. This is a fraudulent stamp that 00:37:57.512 --> 00:37:59.264 doesn't meet the requirement for the 00:37:59.264 --> 00:38:03.512 logo. 00:38:03.512 --> 00:38:06.292 In addition we extracted the pest. Here 00:38:06.292 --> 00:38:09.288 we break the wood packing material we 00:38:09.288 --> 00:38:11.540 pull it down where we look at it and 00:38:11.540 --> 00:38:15.076 work with it. We see larva galleries and 00:38:15.076 --> 00:38:18.076 different areas of pest are. Due to the 00:38:18.076 --> 00:38:20.076 wind and conditions we will take it back 00:38:20.076 --> 00:38:22.360 to the lab for further extraction of the 00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:24.604 best that are within the wood packing 00:38:24.604 --> 00:38:25.356 material. 00:38:25.356 --> 00:38:28.352 Once you identify a pest investtation or 00:38:28.352 --> 00:38:30.636 signs, you will extract the pest. That 00:38:30.636 --> 00:38:33.384 is what we're doing here. We have a 00:38:33.384 --> 00:38:42.920 specialist using his hammer to sblit the 00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:46.952 wood to extract the pest. Once you 00:38:46.952 --> 00:38:49.948 broke the pieces down off, we want to 00:38:49.948 --> 00:38:53.444 take it to a level area that is safe and 00:38:53.444 --> 00:38:55.980 you look at it and extract the pest. 00:38:55.980 --> 00:39:00.232 Looking at the piece of wood we see 00:39:00.232 --> 00:39:03.760 galleries we see inside there is one 00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:05.516 inside there we will attempt to remove. 00:39:05.516 --> 00:39:08.260 00:39:08.260 --> 00:39:10.516 This is shredding the wood. I make it 00:39:10.516 --> 00:39:13.292 into smaller pieces. And hope to get 00:39:13.292 --> 00:39:39.108 any bugs out. . It is good to work 00:39:39.108 --> 00:39:42.108 from a large piece down to manageable 00:39:42.108 --> 00:39:45.888 species. pieces. You could see we 00:39:45.888 --> 00:39:50.884 found two pest. Another type of wood 00:39:50.884 --> 00:39:53.664 packing material we find is wood that 00:39:53.664 --> 00:39:56.920 using embracing. It is not part of a 00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:59.540 crate it is used to support the 00:39:59.540 --> 00:40:01.704 equipment. The specialist look at it 00:40:01.704 --> 00:40:04.731 and see signs of pest activity. And you 00:40:04.731 --> 00:40:07.980 will extract it from a large piece. On 00:40:07.980 --> 00:40:10.228 to a small piece you could work on. . 00:40:10.228 --> 00:40:16.484 And at a safe height not over your head 00:40:16.484 --> 00:40:18.264 it shows the challenging of working in 00:40:18.264 --> 00:40:22.516 the tight space and straps behind you. 00:40:22.516 --> 00:40:27.040 You could not get a hammer swing in a 00:40:27.040 --> 00:40:30.788 smaller hanger could work or pry bar is 00:40:30.788 --> 00:40:33.792 beneficial. 00:40:33.792 --> 00:40:39.324 (bang of hammer)(beeping 00:40:39.324 --> 00:40:46.108 from equipment)One 00:40:46.108 --> 00:40:50.604 thing we will look for a larva gallery 00:40:50.604 --> 00:40:53.140 we need to be sure they don't fall to 00:40:53.140 --> 00:40:55.888 the ground. We will put it in a 00:40:55.888 --> 00:40:57.888 Zip-lock bag and take to the office and 00:40:57.888 --> 00:40:59.889 put in the lab. . 00:40:59.889 --> 00:41:00.645 >> There you go. 00:41:00.645 --> 00:41:03.916 >> The thing nice about this it 00:41:03.916 --> 00:41:06.416 works great in tight spaces so you don't 00:41:06.416 --> 00:41:09.700 hit your head. Looking inside of this, 00:41:09.700 --> 00:41:13.448 , we could see the Brass is fresh it is 00:41:13.448 --> 00:41:15.732 not wet. We will take it back to the 00:41:15.732 --> 00:41:18.228 lab. We will look under the scope to 00:41:18.228 --> 00:41:21.236 extract the pest . 00:41:21.236 --> 00:41:33.013 (bang of hammer) 00:41:33.013 --> 00:41:34.764 >> These are secondary pest we 00:41:34.764 --> 00:41:37.292 find during the inspection for the wood 00:41:37.292 --> 00:41:41.292 packing material that is an egg mass. 00:41:41.292 --> 00:41:46.825 (bang of hammer)) 00:41:46.825 --> 00:41:50.320 >> One thing that commonly 00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.604 happens you damage the larva you need to 00:41:52.604 --> 00:41:55.617 be careful you don't smash it so it is 00:41:55.617 --> 00:41:59.112 not identifiable. 00:41:59.112 --> 00:42:24.416 (machine sounds))(bang 00:42:24.416 --> 00:42:25.677 of hammer) 00:42:25.677 --> 00:42:28.956 >> This looks good. It appears 00:42:28.956 --> 00:42:45.981 to be an . 00:42:45.981 --> 00:44:31.956 >> 00:44:31.956 --> 00:44:31.957 . 00:44:31.957 --> 00:44:34.988 >> I apologize it looks like we 00:44:34.988 --> 00:44:38.484 lost the remainder of the video. I will 00:44:38.484 --> 00:44:42.020 try to get it back online in the interim 00:44:42.020 --> 00:44:44.816 we could take questions from the chat. 00:44:44.816 --> 00:44:49.516 While we try to work out this 00:44:49.516 --> 00:44:55.045 technical difficulty. 00:44:55.045 --> 00:44:56.048 >> LALITA POLISETTY: I've been 00:44:56.048 --> 00:44:57.300 looking at the chat the first question 00:44:57.300 --> 00:45:00.832 we received was, if palettes are 00:45:00.832 --> 00:45:02.576 manufactured and transported around 00:45:02.576 --> 00:45:06.580 United States, to U.S. clients, and not 00:45:06.580 --> 00:45:09.356 purchased from outside of the United 00:45:09.356 --> 00:45:11.612 States, does it require stamps or 00:45:11.612 --> 00:45:17.397 treatment? ? 00:45:17.397 --> 00:45:18.140 >> PHILLIP BALDAUF: This is 00:45:18.140 --> 00:45:19.888 Phillip. I could answer the question. 00:45:19.888 --> 00:45:24.896 The ISPM 15 regulations that this video 00:45:24.896 --> 00:45:30.418 focused on, are for international 00:45:30.418 --> 00:45:33.452 shipments. For domesticate movement of 00:45:33.452 --> 00:45:35.704 wood packing material that is staying in 00:45:35.704 --> 00:45:39.456 the United States, it doesn't apply. 00:45:39.456 --> 00:45:42.741 Good question, thank you. 00:45:42.741 --> 00:45:43.492 >> LALITA POLISETTY: Next 00:45:43.492 --> 00:45:47.983 question is, wood sheets with more than 00:45:47.983 --> 00:45:52.020 6 millimeters, do they require IPPC 00:45:52.020 --> 00:45:56.269 stamp? ? 00:45:56.269 --> 00:45:57.012 >> PHILLIP BALDAUF: Can you 00:45:57.012 --> 00:45:57.829 repeat the question, please. 00:45:57.829 --> 00:46:02.796 >> Lalita Polisetty wood sheets 00:46:02.796 --> 00:46:06.792 with more than 6 millimeters of 00:46:06.792 --> 00:46:08.296 thickness do they require to be stamped? 00:46:08.296 --> 00:46:09.325 ? 00:46:09.325 --> 00:46:10.336 >> PHILLIP BALDAUF: Yes that 00:46:10.336 --> 00:46:12.080 would be true about they are used as 00:46:12.080 --> 00:46:14.828 wood packing material. For 00:46:14.828 --> 00:46:18.857 international shipments. 00:46:18.857 --> 00:46:20.360 >> LALITA POLISETTY: Palette 00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:25.612 made of particle board, does it require 00:46:25.612 --> 00:46:29.897 any heat treatment or fume irrigation. 00:46:29.897 --> 00:46:32.396 >> NICHOLAS VAN GORDON: This is 00:46:32.396 --> 00:46:35.140 Nicholas the same as Phillip. I want to 00:46:35.140 --> 00:46:37.428 mention that the wording of the last 00:46:37.428 --> 00:46:42.420 question is when you say a sheet and dub 00:46:42.420 --> 00:46:44.424 tails to this example as well. Any 00:46:44.424 --> 00:46:50.708 sheet good, that is been processed and 00:46:50.708 --> 00:46:56.704 glued back to a sheet of wood material, 00:46:56.704 --> 00:46:58.988 that is actually going through enough 00:46:58.988 --> 00:47:01.988 processing that no test would survive 00:47:01.988 --> 00:47:09.020 that processing. So Melamin and plywood 00:47:09.020 --> 00:47:12.520 types of material, about a palette is 00:47:12.520 --> 00:47:15.296 made exclusively to those materials I 00:47:15.296 --> 00:47:17.544 don't believe that would pass through 00:47:17.544 --> 00:47:21.332 the processing requirement and don't 00:47:21.332 --> 00:47:24.336 need to be stamped. I'm not aware of 00:47:24.336 --> 00:47:30.108 palettes that are made of only those 00:47:30.108 --> 00:47:32.360 materials that is why another word is 00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:37.644 solid packing tell. Lumber needs to be 00:47:37.644 --> 00:47:41.141 treated but not sheets. 00:47:41.141 --> 00:47:41.896 >> PHILLIP BALDAUF: Thank you 00:47:41.896 --> 00:47:44.396 for the clarification I was envisioning 00:47:44.396 --> 00:47:48.173 a sheet of raw wood. 00:47:48.173 --> 00:47:48.920 >> LALITA POLISETTY: Thank you 00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:52.180 the next question is, what about ship 00:47:52.180 --> 00:47:57.700 born Dunage, does that need heat 00:47:57.700 --> 00:48:06.488 treatment or fume irrigation? Correction 00:48:06.488 --> 00:48:11.237 fumigation. 00:48:11.237 --> 00:48:12.984 >> TYRONE JONES: Yes it does. 00:48:12.984 --> 00:48:19.020 It is wood packing material anything over 00:48:19.020 --> 00:48:22.020 6 millimeters used for bracing that 00:48:22.020 --> 00:48:23.517 require a mark. 00:48:23.517 --> 00:48:25.304 >> LALITA POLISETTY: This is a 00:48:25.304 --> 00:48:28.296 continuation of another example do the 00:48:28.296 --> 00:48:30.800 palettes that is made out of scrape wood 00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:34.836 do they require -- it says in 00:48:34.836 --> 00:48:37.828 parenthesis pieces of heat treated wood 00:48:37.828 --> 00:48:41.336 left over from cutting runners to build 00:48:41.336 --> 00:48:51.860 palettes. Does that require treatment of 00:48:51.860 --> 00:48:52.109 fumigation. 00:48:52.109 --> 00:48:56.644 >> Tyrone Jones yes the pallets 00:48:56.644 --> 00:48:59.888 itself anything used needs to be treated 00:48:59.888 --> 00:49:03.176 and fumigated and the pallets doesn't 00:49:03.176 --> 00:49:06.172 need to have the mark. We prefer the 00:49:06.172 --> 00:49:08.920 opposites side the minimum it needs to 00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:14.212 be on the one side. So the shipment is 00:49:14.212 --> 00:49:17.212 not offloaded to sea if there is a mark 00:49:17.212 --> 00:49:18.713 present. 00:49:18.713 --> 00:49:19.488 >> LALITA POLISETTY: Thank you. 00:49:19.488 --> 00:49:22.992 The next question is, does the mark 00:49:22.992 --> 00:49:26.488 need to be on both sides of the wooden 00:49:26.488 --> 00:49:28.025 pallets? 00:49:28.025 --> 00:49:30.020 >> Tyrone Jones it is helpful. 00:49:30.020 --> 00:49:33.272 If you don't want to have it offloaded 00:49:33.272 --> 00:49:41.048 on a regular basis, yes. Because -- -- 00:49:41.048 --> 00:49:44.300 the fork lift driver is specific to make 00:49:44.300 --> 00:49:47.084 sure the load is showing when the 00:49:47.084 --> 00:49:50.329 container was opened. 00:49:50.329 --> 00:49:51.088 >> LALITA POLISETTY: Thank you. 00:49:51.088 --> 00:49:53.864 The next question, what happens to 00:49:53.864 --> 00:49:56.864 cargo if non-compliant material is 00:49:56.864 --> 00:50:02.613 found? This is towards CCP. 00:50:02.613 --> 00:50:07.648 >> Stephen Brady it is 00:50:07.648 --> 00:50:12.148 reexport. Non-compliant of a stamp not 00:50:12.148 --> 00:50:14.424 legible or not being there, it is up to 00:50:14.424 --> 00:50:18.920 the port. Logistically we could do the 00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:24.212 manipulation, when piers don't have the 00:50:24.212 --> 00:50:27.204 equipment or the staff or resources to 00:50:27.204 --> 00:50:31.736 do the manipulation. Or we've given 00:50:31.736 --> 00:50:34.236 exceptions to a company in the past there 00:50:34.236 --> 00:50:37.736 are many times we reexport the entire 00:50:37.736 --> 00:50:40.024 shipment not just the wood packing 00:50:40.024 --> 00:50:41.517 material. 00:50:41.517 --> 00:50:41.772 >> LALITA POLISETTY: Thank you. 00:50:41.772 --> 00:50:42.265 00:50:42.265 --> 00:50:47.272 >> Stephen Brady they are 00:50:47.272 --> 00:50:51.300 getting fewer in between allowing 00:50:51.300 --> 00:50:52.297 manipulations. 00:50:52.297 --> 00:50:54.300 >> LALITA POLISETTY: Does the 00:50:54.300 --> 00:51:00.832 compliant mark change is it good from 00:51:00.832 --> 00:51:02.081 year-to-year. 00:51:02.081 --> 00:51:03.088 >> TYRONE JONES: It is good 00:51:03.088 --> 00:51:06.612 once you make changes to the palette 00:51:06.612 --> 00:51:10.864 itself. If you are replacing one board 00:51:10.864 --> 00:51:14.396 then you mark the additional board. You 00:51:14.396 --> 00:51:17.144 replace 1/3 of the wood packaging you 00:51:17.144 --> 00:51:19.648 remove the marks and retreating 00:51:19.648 --> 00:51:21.677 everything and replacing the mark. 00:51:21.677 --> 00:51:22.180 >> LALITA POLISETTY: Thank you. 00:51:22.180 --> 00:51:22.924 00:51:22.924 --> 00:51:25.432 This is more of a scenario. If a broken 00:51:25.432 --> 00:51:29.712 board is replaced, how would you detect 00:51:29.712 --> 00:51:32.456 that. This process without refumigating 00:51:32.456 --> 00:51:35.460 be the leading cause of all the pest 00:51:35.460 --> 00:51:42.240 entering? This is more of a theory. 00:51:42.240 --> 00:51:42.241 . 00:51:42.241 --> 00:51:43.988 >> Tyrone Jones that goes back 00:51:43.988 --> 00:51:46.024 to the repair we mentioned. You repair 00:51:46.024 --> 00:51:50.272 a palette you mark and use a treated 00:51:50.272 --> 00:51:53.548 board that is in the countries program. 00:51:53.548 --> 00:51:56.300 And then, the company that is replacing 00:51:56.300 --> 00:51:59.052 it is supposed to put their mark on the 00:51:59.052 --> 00:52:02.588 board. You replace two boards on a 00:52:02.588 --> 00:52:04.332 palette. You could end up with three 00:52:04.332 --> 00:52:06.080 different marks. The mark from the 00:52:06.080 --> 00:52:09.620 original Pale t and one for each board 00:52:09.620 --> 00:52:19.117 that are applied. 00:52:19.117 --> 00:52:21.400 >> We are at time we could not 00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:23.144 take any more questions from the chat we 00:52:23.144 --> 00:52:24.896 were not able to get to the question you 00:52:24.896 --> 00:52:29.176 have the contact information on the 00:52:29.176 --> 00:52:31.176 screen. You could reach out to the 00:52:31.176 --> 00:52:33.176 panelist to get your question answered 00:52:33.176 --> 00:52:37.204 we apologize for the technical 00:52:37.204 --> 00:52:39.208 difficulty for today we hope you found 00:52:39.208 --> 00:52:43.584 the webinar informant. It will be 00:52:43.584 --> 00:52:45.244 posted. We thank you for joining us 00:52:46.492 --> 00:52:46.492 (end of webinar)