1 00:00:00,057 --> 00:00:05,111 >> HI, EVERYONE. THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING. 2 00:00:05,111 --> 00:00:07,116 JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER, IF YOU ARE DIALED IN TO LISTEN TO THE 3 00:00:07,116 --> 00:00:11,112 WEBINAR ON THE PHONE LINE, PUT YOUR PHONE ON MUTE 4 00:00:11,112 --> 00:00:23,112 WE WILL BE GETTING STARTED SHORTLY. THANKS SO MUCH. 5 00:01:08,220 --> 00:01:15,361 >> WELL, HELLO, EVERYBODY. WELCOME TO THE WEBINAR ON 6 00:01:15,361 --> 00:01:16,362 INTERVIEWING VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING. 7 00:01:16,362 --> 00:01:20,370 THIS IS THEIR WEBINAR DESIGNED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. 8 00:01:20,370 --> 00:01:24,363 I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU ALL TODAY. I WILL BE ONE OF YOUR 9 00:01:24,363 --> 00:01:28,361 CO-PRESENTERS, ALONG WITH THE DOCTOR FROM THE HOMELAND 10 00:01:28,361 --> 00:01:34,386 SECURITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. I'M WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF 11 00:01:34,386 --> 00:01:37,391 HOMELAND SECURITY FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER. 12 00:01:37,391 --> 00:01:42,387 I AM THE SENIOR TRAINING ADVISOR FOR THE DHS BLUE CAMPAIGN. 13 00:01:42,387 --> 00:01:45,389 PRIOR TO MY TIME AT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHICH HAS NOW BEEN, 14 00:01:45,389 --> 00:01:51,387 WOW, 15 00:01:51,387 --> 00:01:52,392 16 YEARS, I WAS A PROSECUTING ATTORNEY IN THE 16 00:01:52,392 --> 00:01:56,386 SEATTLE, WASHINGTON, AREA, FOCUSING ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 17 00:01:56,386 --> 00:02:00,389 AND ELDER ABUSE. REALLY HAPPY YOU ARE HERE TODAY. 18 00:02:00,389 --> 00:02:02,387 I WILL START WITH A LITTLE OVERVIEW. 19 00:02:02,387 --> 00:02:05,389 THE BLUE CAMPAIGN AND COMBATING HUMAN TRAFFICKING -- BUT THE 20 00:02:05,389 --> 00:02:09,389 MAJORITY OF OUR WEBINAR I WILL REFER TO DR. HUBBARD, WILL LEAD 21 00:02:09,389 --> 00:02:14,387 US THROUGH AN AMAZING DISCUSSION ABOUT EFFECTS OF TRAUMA WHEN 22 00:02:14,387 --> 00:02:16,389 INTERVIEWING VICTIMS, BECAUSE WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT THE 23 00:02:16,389 --> 00:02:19,390 DEPARTMENT WORKING TO IDENTIFY POSSIBLE VICTIMS, BUT WE HAVE TO 24 00:02:19,390 --> 00:02:23,389 START DOING MORE -- WHAT HAPPENS AFTER WE FIND THE VICTIM? 25 00:02:23,389 --> 00:02:27,390 THAT IS GOING TO LEAD US THROUGH GOOD INFORMATION ON THAT. 26 00:02:27,390 --> 00:02:31,388 LET'S GO AHEAD AND BEGIN. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SLIGHT 27 00:02:31,388 --> 00:02:35,554 FROM OUR CAMPAIGN ORIGINALLY CAME INTO EXISTENCE IN THE YEAR 28 00:02:35,554 --> 00:02:38,054 2010. WE HAVE HAD A FEW MILESTONES 29 00:02:38,054 --> 00:02:41,387 SINCE THEN. I WILL NOT WALK EVERY MILESTONE 30 00:02:41,387 --> 00:02:47,389 DOWN WITH YOU, BUT IF YOU OF THE BIG MILESTONES WE ARE PROUD OF 31 00:02:47,389 --> 00:02:52,389 IS HOW HOME SECURITY INVESTIGATIONS HAS VICTIM 32 00:02:52,389 --> 00:02:56,389 ASSISTANCE CREDIT AND OF THEIR OFFICES AROUND THE COUNTRY, HOW 33 00:02:56,389 --> 00:02:59,387 WE IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND CORPORATE HUMAN TRAFFICKING 34 00:02:59,387 --> 00:03:04,389 AWARENESS TRAINING OUT IN ALL OF OUR BASIC ACADEMIES. 35 00:03:04,389 --> 00:03:06,389 ONE OF THE MOST NOTABLE FEATURES I WANT TO POINT YOU ALL TO IS 36 00:03:06,389 --> 00:03:09,431 THAT LAST YEAR, CONGRESS PAST AND IN JANUARY THE PRESIDENT 37 00:03:09,431 --> 00:03:12,431 SIGNED AN AUTHORIZATION FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY 38 00:03:12,431 --> 00:03:17,432 TO OFFICIALLY HAVE A BLUE CAMPAIGN PROGRAM OFFICE TO WHICH 39 00:03:17,432 --> 00:03:20,431 MEANS WE WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS TO COMBAT 40 00:03:20,431 --> 00:03:23,474 HUMAN TRAFFICKING. FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE 41 00:03:23,474 --> 00:03:27,475 BLUE CAMPAIGN, YOU SIMPLY HAVE TO GO TO OUR WEBSITE WHICH IS 42 00:03:27,475 --> 00:03:33,515 BASICALLY DHS.GOV/BLUECAMPAIGN, 43 00:03:33,515 --> 00:03:40,515 OR DO WHAT I DO AND JUST GOOGLE TWO WORDS, "BLUE CAMPAIGN," AND 44 00:03:40,515 --> 00:03:44,515 IT WILL TAKE YOU THERE. WE HAVE A FRIDAY DAY RESOURCES 45 00:03:44,515 --> 00:03:46,516 AVAILABLE FOR EVIL THAT YOU CAN DOWNLOAD AND VIEW THESE RESOURCE 46 00:03:46,516 --> 00:03:51,560 -- WE HAVE A VARIETY OF 47 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,098 RESOURCES AVAILABLE FOR YOU THAT YOU CAN DOWNLOAD AND VIEW THESE 48 00:03:55,098 --> 00:03:57,672 RESOURCES. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO TO OUR 49 00:03:57,672 --> 00:04:00,568 WEBSITE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE DHS BLUE CAMPAIGN. 50 00:04:00,568 --> 00:04:03,569 AT THE FUNNY SO OF THE PRESENTATION -- AT THE FINNEY 51 00:04:03,569 --> 00:04:08,466 TWO OF THE RESERVATION, WE WILL HAVE OUT -- AT THE END OF THE 52 00:04:08,466 --> 00:04:11,615 PRESENTATION, WE WILL HAVE OUR E-MAIL ADDRESSES FOR YOU. 53 00:04:11,615 --> 00:04:15,612 LET'S SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME DISCUSSING HUMAN TRAFFICKING. 54 00:04:15,612 --> 00:04:20,612 A MAJORITY OF YOU ON THIS WEBINAR HAVE 55 00:04:20,612 --> 00:04:21,613 PERCEIVED SOME FORM OF TRAINING ON HUMAN 56 00:04:21,613 --> 00:04:23,632 TRAFFICKING. THIS WILL BE A REVIEW FOR SOME 57 00:04:23,632 --> 00:04:25,652 OF YOU. IN ESSENCE COME WHEN WE TALK 58 00:04:25,652 --> 00:04:28,684 ABOUT THE CRIME OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING, AND WE BOIL IT DOWN 59 00:04:28,684 --> 00:04:34,684 TO ITS ROOTS, IT IS REALLY ABOUT ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL, TRAFFICKER, 60 00:04:34,684 --> 00:04:37,682 COMPELLING SOMEONE TO WORK OR PROVIDE SERVICES OR ENGAGE IN A 61 00:04:37,682 --> 00:04:41,682 COMMERCIAL SEX ACT, IN EXCHANGE FOR SOMETHING OF VALUE. 62 00:04:41,682 --> 00:04:47,685 UNDER OUR FEDERAL LAWS IN THIS 63 00:04:47,685 --> 00:04:48,684 COUNTRY AND SEVERAL STATE LAWS CAN WE DIFFERENTIATE HUMAN 64 00:04:48,684 --> 00:04:52,686 TRAFFICKING INTO TWO PARTS. WE HAVE LABOR TRAFFICKING AND WE 65 00:04:52,686 --> 00:04:55,683 HAVE SEX TRAFFICKING. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LABOR 66 00:04:55,683 --> 00:05:00,683 TRAFFICKING, THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CRIMES OF 67 00:05:00,683 --> 00:05:03,686 LABOR EXPLOITATION AND LABOR TRAFFICKING. 68 00:05:03,686 --> 00:05:06,826 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LABOR EXPLOITATION, 69 00:05:06,826 --> 00:05:11,014 EXPLOITING ANOTHER PRISON BY HAVING THEM WORK FOR 70 00:05:11,014 --> 00:05:15,725 LESS WAGES, BAD WORK CONDITIONS FROM OVERTIME WITHOUT PAY, 71 00:05:15,725 --> 00:05:18,730 WITHOUT PROPERLY COMPENSATING THEM, A LOT OF US ON THIS CALL 72 00:05:18,730 --> 00:05:20,725 HAVE PROBABLY HAD JOBS WHERE WE WERE UNDERPAID AND TREATED 73 00:05:20,725 --> 00:05:23,726 POORLY BY OUR BOSS, TO MOBILE WORK CONDITIONS. 74 00:05:23,726 --> 00:05:26,773 THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE BEEN TRAFFICKED. 75 00:05:26,773 --> 00:05:29,766 WE MAY HAVE BEEN EXPLOITED. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 76 00:05:29,766 --> 00:05:33,769 TRAFFICKING AND NEXT LOCATION? IT IS WHEN YOU DON'T -- THE 77 00:05:33,769 --> 00:05:35,766 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TRAFFICKING AND EXPLOITATION? 78 00:05:35,766 --> 00:05:44,812 YOU-- IT IS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. 79 00:05:44,812 --> 00:05:45,815 YOU COULD BE KILLED, YOUR FAMILY COULD BE KILLED, YOUR LOVED ONES 80 00:05:45,815 --> 00:05:49,814 COULD BE THREATENED. THAT IS WHERE FORCED LABOR 81 00:05:49,814 --> 00:05:51,864 DIFFERS FROM EXPLOITATION. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FEDERAL 82 00:05:51,864 --> 00:05:57,864 DEFINITION, WHAT WE KNOW UNDER FEDERAL LAW IS THAT A TRAFFICKER 83 00:05:57,864 --> 00:06:00,864 , IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP ROW, BOTH BOXES ON THE LEFT AND 84 00:06:00,864 --> 00:06:03,864 RIGHT, THE TRAFFICKER IS EITHER GOING TO KNOWINGLY PROVIDE OR 85 00:06:03,864 --> 00:06:06,865 OBTAIN LABOR OR IS GOING TO FINANCIALLY BENEFIT FROM THE 86 00:06:06,865 --> 00:06:08,891 VENTURE. THAT IS THE RECRUITER OR THAT IS 87 00:06:08,891 --> 00:06:12,894 THE BUSINESS THAT HIRES THE TRAFFICKER. 88 00:06:12,894 --> 00:06:15,897 AND THEN WHAT WE HAVE TO PROVE TO CONVICT THE INDIVIDUAL WOULD 89 00:06:15,897 --> 00:06:19,894 BE THAT THEY COMMITTED LABOR TRAFFICKING THROUGH ONE OF FOUR 90 00:06:19,894 --> 00:06:23,894 MEANS. FORCE WHICH IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. 91 00:06:23,894 --> 00:06:28,892 THREATS OR COERCION. ABUSE OF PROCESS -- WHAT THAT 92 00:06:28,892 --> 00:06:31,892 SOMETHING MEANS IS THREATENING AN INDIVIDUAL TO HAVE THEM 93 00:06:31,892 --> 00:06:36,892 DEPORTED. THREATENING TO REPORT THEM TO 94 00:06:36,892 --> 00:06:40,895 POLICE. TRUMPING UP ILLEGAL ACTS AND 95 00:06:40,895 --> 00:06:46,935 THREATENING TO CALL THE POLICE ON THEM. OR FOURTH, COERCION, 96 00:06:46,935 --> 00:06:49,937 COMMENDATION OF THEM ALL. YOU OFFER THEM OF FORCE -- YOU 97 00:06:49,937 --> 00:06:53,934 HAVE HEARD THEM AS FORCE FRONT, OR COERCION. 98 00:06:53,934 --> 00:06:57,934 THAT IS WHAT THE DEFINITION OF LABOR TRAFFICKING IS. 99 00:06:57,934 --> 00:07:00,937 THE VICTIMS WHO ARE VICTIMIZED THROUGH LABOR TRAFFICKING ARE 100 00:07:00,937 --> 00:07:03,975 GOING TO PRESENT THEMSELVES DIFFERENTLY TO YOU THAT PERHAPS 101 00:07:03,975 --> 00:07:05,978 THE VICTIM OF A HIT AND RUN WITH THE VICTIM OF A BURGLARY. 102 00:07:05,978 --> 00:07:11,976 I WANT TO SET THAT OUT FRONT. SECOND FORM OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING 103 00:07:11,976 --> 00:07:14,976 IS THE ONE THAT MOST OF US ARE FAMILIAR WITH. 104 00:07:14,976 --> 00:07:15,978 WE SEE IT ON THE NEWS A LOT AND WE SEE IT IN MOVIES A LOT. 105 00:07:15,978 --> 00:07:21,064 THAT IS SEX TRAFFICKING. LET'S BE CLEAR, THERE IS A 106 00:07:21,064 --> 00:07:27,064 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ACTIVE COMMERCIAL SEX AND SEX 107 00:07:27,064 --> 00:07:32,065 TRAFFICKING. JUST LIKE LABOR TRAFFICKING, 108 00:07:32,065 --> 00:07:36,081 THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. WHAT IS COMMERCIAL SEX? SEX 109 00:07:36,081 --> 00:07:39,093 IN EXCHANGE FOR SOMETHING OF VALUE. 110 00:07:39,093 --> 00:07:41,738 IS IT A CRIME TO COMMIT AN ACT OF PROSTITUTION? 111 00:07:41,738 --> 00:07:44,118 WELL, YES COME IN MOST STATES THAT IS ILLEGAL. 112 00:07:44,118 --> 00:07:49,115 SOME STATES MIGHT HAVE A FEW COUNTIES WHERE IT IS LAWFUL. 113 00:07:49,115 --> 00:07:50,127 BUT WE ARE TALKING ADULTS OVER 18. 114 00:07:50,127 --> 00:07:54,144 WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ACT OF PROSTITUTION AND ACT 115 00:07:54,144 --> 00:07:57,147 OF SEX TRAFFICKING? YOU PROBABLY KNOW THIS -- WHEN 116 00:07:57,147 --> 00:08:01,144 YOU HAVE COMPELLING BEHAVIOR, SOMEONE FORCING SOMEBODY THROUGH 117 00:08:01,144 --> 00:08:05,875 FORCE, FRAUD, OR COERCION, TO ENGAGE IN AN ACT OF 118 00:08:05,875 --> 00:08:09,188 COMMERCIAL SEX. THE DIFFERENCE AND THE FEDERAL 119 00:08:09,188 --> 00:08:10,441 LEVEL IS WHEN MINERS ARE INVOLVED. 120 00:08:10,441 --> 00:08:16,188 ANY MINOR INDUCED INTO SEX 121 00:08:16,188 --> 00:08:19,186 TRAFFICKING IS A VICTIM OF SEX TRAFFICKING. 122 00:08:19,186 --> 00:08:23,189 WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVE FORCE, FRAUD, OR COERCION. 123 00:08:23,189 --> 00:08:25,966 AGE IS ENOUGH. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LEGAL 124 00:08:25,966 --> 00:08:28,188 DEFINITION, IT IS HARDER THAN JUST SAYING AGE. 125 00:08:28,188 --> 00:08:30,188 I WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH THIS SCARY LOOKING SLIGHT BUT IT IS 126 00:08:30,188 --> 00:08:33,188 NOT TOO BAD. THE TOP ROW TALKS ABOUT WHO ARE 127 00:08:33,188 --> 00:08:37,187 THE TRAFFICKERS WE ARE GOING FOR. 128 00:08:37,187 --> 00:08:40,188 WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS DOING SEVERAL THINGS -- THEY 129 00:08:40,188 --> 00:08:43,229 CAN OBTAIN A PERSON, RECRUIT A PERSON, HARBOR OR HOUSE A 130 00:08:43,229 --> 00:08:49,276 PERSON, TRANSPORT A PERSON, OR IN THE MOST RECENT CHANGES, 131 00:08:49,276 --> 00:08:53,369 THOSE THAT PATRONIZE THIS PERSON OR MAINTAIN THAT PERSON. 132 00:08:53,369 --> 00:08:56,437 OR WE CAN GO AFTER SOMEONE WHO IS KNOWINGLY BENEFITING FROM 133 00:08:56,437 --> 00:09:00,440 PARTICIPATING IN THE VENTURE. WE CAN GO AFTER ALL LEVELS OF 134 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,391 THE TRAFFICKING ORGANIZATION. HOW DO WE DO IT 135 00:09:03,391 --> 00:09:07,450 ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SECOND ROW THAT IS OUR 136 00:09:07,450 --> 00:09:11,440 FORCE, FRAUD, OR COERCION. ON THE RIGHT SECOND THAT IS 137 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,441 WHERE WE TALK ABOUT MINORS INVOLVED. 138 00:09:14,441 --> 00:09:20,436 WITH MINORS, AGAIN COME UNDER 18, INDUCED INTO TRAFFICKING. 139 00:09:20,436 --> 00:09:23,441 BUT WE HAVE TO SHOW THAT THE TRAFFICKER SOMEHOW KNEW OR HAD A 140 00:09:23,441 --> 00:09:28,442 RECKLESS DISREGARD SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT THE PERSON WAS UNDER 141 00:09:28,442 --> 00:09:31,442 18. HOW DO WE PROVE THAT? EASY. BOYS AND GIRLS BOTH WHO ARE 142 00:09:31,442 --> 00:09:34,442 RECRUITED IN HIGH SCHOOLS, JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOLS. 143 00:09:34,442 --> 00:09:37,440 PRETTY HARD EVIDENCE TO REFUTE THAT YOU DID NOT KNOW THEY WERE 144 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,440 A MINOR. THE LAST ELEMENT IS THERE 145 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:46,441 BECAUSE IT IS FEDERAL LAW, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER, WHAT THAT 146 00:09:46,441 --> 00:09:49,521 IT AFFECTS INTERSTATE COMMERCE. THAT MEANS THAT THE INTERNET IS 147 00:09:49,521 --> 00:09:55,567 USED, PHONES WERE USED, THEY FOUND AT THE SCENE SOMETHING 148 00:09:55,567 --> 00:09:57,565 THAT WAS NOT PRODUCED WITHIN THE STATE. 149 00:09:57,565 --> 00:10:05,566 ALTHOUGH THE SUPREME COURT HAS ALREADY FOUND THAT INTERSTATE 150 00:10:05,566 --> 00:10:08,614 COMMERCE MEETS THE STANDARD. IF EVERYTHING WAS PRODUCED 151 00:10:08,614 --> 00:10:12,617 WITHIN THE STATE WE CAN STILL GO AFTER THEM FOR SEX TRAFFICKING 152 00:10:12,617 --> 00:10:14,617 FOR SEX TRAFFICKING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LABOR 153 00:10:14,617 --> 00:10:16,617 TRAFFICKING, SEX TRAFFICKING THROUGH FORCE, FRAUD, OR 154 00:10:16,617 --> 00:10:18,624 COERCION, MINOR , ANYONE UNDER 18 155 00:10:18,624 --> 00:10:21,634 WHEN IT COMES TO SEX TRAFFICKING. 156 00:10:21,634 --> 00:10:25,649 WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE 157 00:10:25,649 --> 00:10:27,180 BLUE CAMPAIGN TALKING ABOUT WHAT TO LOOK FOR AND WHAT ARE THE 158 00:10:27,180 --> 00:10:28,200 SIGNS. A LOT OF YOU HAVE BEEN TRAINED 159 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,732 IN THE SIGNS. WHAT WE WANT TO DO NOW -- NOW WE 160 00:10:29,732 --> 00:10:35,816 KNOW THE LAW AND WE KNOW THE SIGNS. 161 00:10:35,816 --> 00:10:36,816 WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE IDENTIFY THE VICTIM? 162 00:10:36,816 --> 00:10:42,868 AT THIS POINT I'M GOING TO KICK IT OVER TO OUR FEATURED SPEAKER 163 00:10:42,868 --> 00:10:45,902 TODAY, AND SHE WILL BEGIN WITH A BRIEF INTRO OF HERSELF AND WALK 164 00:10:45,902 --> 00:10:49,903 YOU THROUGH THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON TODAY, TRAUMA. 165 00:10:49,903 --> 00:10:56,944 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. I AM THE UNIT CHIEF FOR THE 166 00:10:56,944 --> 00:10:58,941 VICTIM ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR HOMELAND SECURITY 167 00:10:58,941 --> 00:11:02,941 INVESTIGATIONS, AND WHAT WE DO, WE PROVIDE SERVICES FOR ALL 168 00:11:02,941 --> 00:11:08,940 VICTIMS OF FEDERAL CRIMES TO INCLUDE HUMAN TRAFFICKING. 169 00:11:08,940 --> 00:11:10,982 BUT ANY VICTIM THAT IS IDENTIFIED OVER THE COURSE OF AN 170 00:11:10,982 --> 00:11:15,992 INVESTIGATION RECEIVES VICTIM 171 00:11:15,992 --> 00:11:16,982 SERVICES. WHAT OUR MISSION -- OUR MISSION 172 00:11:16,982 --> 00:11:21,993 HERE -- I ALSO AM -- MY 173 00:11:21,993 --> 00:11:28,098 BACKGROUND AS FAR AS TELLING WHO I AM MY BACKGROUND -- 174 00:11:28,098 --> 00:11:31,984 THERE'S AN AGENCY FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS 175 00:11:31,984 --> 00:11:34,078 NOW. PRIOR TO THAT, I WAS A FAMILY 176 00:11:34,078 --> 00:11:38,127 ADVOCACY PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE MARINE CORPS. 177 00:11:38,127 --> 00:11:44,149 THE FAMILY ADVOCACY PROGRAM AT THE DOD'S CHILD ABUSE AND 178 00:11:44,149 --> 00:11:48,147 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROGRAMS. I MANAGED THAT PROGRAM. 179 00:11:48,147 --> 00:11:50,149 I AM ALSO A RETIRED MARINE. I HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON 180 00:11:50,149 --> 00:11:53,150 HERE THAT MAKE ME QUALIFIED TO BE IN THIS POSITION. 181 00:11:53,150 --> 00:11:56,150 MOVING ON TO THE MISSION OF THE PROGRAM, THE VICTIM ASSISTANCE 182 00:11:56,150 --> 00:12:01,149 PROGRAM MISSION IS TO SUPPORT HOMELAND SECURITY INVESTIGATIONS 183 00:12:01,149 --> 00:12:06,231 AND, AS I SAID, AID VICTIMS 184 00:12:06,231 --> 00:12:07,233 IDENTIFIED OVER THE COURSE OF THE FEDERAL INVESTIGATION AS 185 00:12:07,233 --> 00:12:08,276 THEY MOVE THROUGH THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM. 186 00:12:08,276 --> 00:12:12,094 UNDER OUR PROGRAM WE HAVE TWO 187 00:12:12,094 --> 00:12:16,550 PROGRAM ELEMENTS. THE FIRST IS THE VICTIM 188 00:12:16,550 --> 00:12:20,369 ASSISTANCE SPECIALISTS. WE HAVE 27 VICTIM ASSISTANCE 189 00:12:20,369 --> 00:12:23,369 SPECIALISTS LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. 190 00:12:23,369 --> 00:12:28,369 THEY WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH SPECIAL AGENTS WHEN THE VICTIM 191 00:12:28,369 --> 00:12:31,372 IS IDENTIFIED DURING THE COURSE OF THE INVESTIGATION. 192 00:12:31,372 --> 00:12:33,403 THEIR MAIN ROLE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MEET WITH THE VICTIM 193 00:12:33,403 --> 00:12:39,569 AND ENSURE THAT THE VICTIM KNOWS WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE. 194 00:12:39,569 --> 00:12:42,571 THEY DO AN ASSESSMENT TO DETERMINE WHEN THE VICTIM'S 195 00:12:42,571 --> 00:12:47,518 NEEDS MAY BE -- FOOD, CLOTHING, JOB ASSISTANCE. 196 00:12:47,518 --> 00:12:53,084 THEY CONNECT THEM WITH THE RESOURCES AND SERVICES THEY 197 00:12:53,084 --> 00:12:58,650 NEED. OUR FORENSIC INTERVIEW SPECIALIST -- THEY ARE ALSO 198 00:12:58,650 --> 00:13:00,910 CORRELATED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY 199 00:13:00,910 --> 00:13:03,736 -- CO-LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. 200 00:13:03,736 --> 00:13:07,692 OUR FORENSIC INTERVIEW SPECIALIST TRAVEL GLOBALLY AND 201 00:13:07,692 --> 00:13:10,692 PROVIDE SPECIFIC INTERVIEWS FOR CHILDREN, BUT THEY PROVIDE 202 00:13:10,692 --> 00:13:15,735 FORENSIC INTERVIEWS FOR ADULTS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED SOME KIND 203 00:13:15,735 --> 00:13:18,777 OF SEVERE TRAUMA OR HAVE A COGNITIVE DISABILITY OR JUST 204 00:13:18,777 --> 00:13:22,875 NEED THE ADDITIONAL CARE IN TERMS OF ASSISTING THEM. 205 00:13:22,875 --> 00:13:26,257 WHEN WE LOOK AT THE VICTIM ASSISTANCE SPECIALIST ROLE -- I 206 00:13:26,257 --> 00:13:30,869 WILL NOT SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON WHAT WE DO, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT 207 00:13:30,869 --> 00:13:36,906 TO SET THE FOUNDATION ON WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO. THE VICTIM 208 00:13:36,906 --> 00:13:39,983 ASSISTANCE SPECIALIST PROVIDES COMPREHENSIVE SERVICES. 209 00:13:39,983 --> 00:13:41,987 THEY ENSURE THAT THE VICTIM KNOWS WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE AND 210 00:13:41,987 --> 00:13:44,027 MAKES SURE THEY ARE CONNECTED TO SERVICES. 211 00:13:44,027 --> 00:13:46,070 THEY MAKE SURE THEY WORK WITH THE AGENT AND BUILD THE RAPPORT 212 00:13:46,070 --> 00:13:52,069 AND TRUST. WE PROVIDE EMERGENCY FUNDING FOR 213 00:13:52,069 --> 00:13:55,586 VICTIMS AND SPECIFIC RESOURCES FOR THOSE VICTIMS. 214 00:13:55,586 --> 00:13:58,602 OUR FORENSIC INTERVIEW SPECIALISTS ARE SPECIALLY 215 00:13:58,602 --> 00:14:02,120 TRAINED SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND HAVE OVER 216 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,119 THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF INTERVIEWING EXPERIENCE, AND 217 00:14:05,119 --> 00:14:09,125 AS I SAID, THEY TRAVEL GLOBALLY. THEY ARE QUALIFIED TO GIVE 218 00:14:09,125 --> 00:14:10,427 EXPERT TESTIMONY IN COURT PROCEEDINGS. 219 00:14:10,427 --> 00:14:14,073 AS YOU SEE ON THE OTHER SIDE, THESE ARE SOME OF THE CASES THEY 220 00:14:14,073 --> 00:14:16,157 ARE MOST COMMONLY ASSOCIATED WITH, AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING 221 00:14:16,157 --> 00:14:23,193 SPECIFICALLY FOR MINORS IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST. 222 00:14:23,193 --> 00:14:26,683 SO WHAT IS OUR STRATEGY? OUR STRATEGY IS A 223 00:14:26,683 --> 00:14:28,235 VICTIM-CENTERED APPROACH TO INVESTIGATION. 224 00:14:28,235 --> 00:14:34,236 FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE DO, WHEN 225 00:14:34,236 --> 00:14:37,234 WE TALK ABOUT THE VICTIM-CENTERED APPROACH, OUR 226 00:14:37,234 --> 00:14:39,236 VICTIM-CENTERED APPROACH ENCOMPASSES -- WE KNOW THAT 227 00:14:39,236 --> 00:14:44,284 VICTIMS ARE KEY TO A SUCCESSFUL 228 00:14:44,284 --> 00:14:47,284 INVESTIGATION. YOU DON'T HAVE A SUCCESSFUL 229 00:14:47,284 --> 00:14:48,276 INVESTIGATION ON YOU HAVE THE VICTIM THAT FEELS SAFE AND 230 00:14:48,276 --> 00:14:52,276 SECURE. STABILITY, SAFETY, AND RECOVERY 231 00:14:52,276 --> 00:14:55,278 -- WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE THEY ARE CONNECTED WITH THE SERVICES AND 232 00:14:55,278 --> 00:14:58,287 THE RESOURCES THAT THEY MAY NEED. 233 00:14:58,287 --> 00:15:02,281 WE ALSO ENSURE THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE, EVEN IF 234 00:15:02,281 --> 00:15:04,276 THEY ARE COMPLICIT IN THE ILLEGAL ENTRY OR THEY HAVE 235 00:15:04,276 --> 00:15:08,278 COMMITTED AN ILLEGAL ACT DURING THEIR EXPLOITATION. 236 00:15:08,278 --> 00:15:17,303 WE ENSURE THAT THE RIGHTS ARE PROTECTED. VICTIMS ALSO NEED 237 00:15:17,303 --> 00:15:18,283 TO BE INFORMED AND WE MAKE SURE THEY ARE 238 00:15:18,283 --> 00:15:21,328 INFORMED THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE INVESTIGATION AND 239 00:15:21,328 --> 00:15:23,377 PROSECUTION IN ENSURING THAT THEY MAKE SURE THEY THEY HAVE 240 00:15:23,377 --> 00:15:27,964 THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE DURING THE CLOSE OF THE 241 00:15:27,964 --> 00:15:30,003 INVESTIGATION SHOULD THEY CHOOSE. 242 00:15:30,003 --> 00:15:33,572 WE KNOW OVERALL THAT IT IS NOT 243 00:15:33,572 --> 00:15:36,626 POSSIBLE TO HAVE A RELIABLE WITNESS UNLESS YOU HAVE A VICTIM 244 00:15:36,626 --> 00:15:39,655 WHO FEELS SAFE AND SECURE. OUR JOB IS SUPPORTING THE 245 00:15:39,655 --> 00:15:43,695 VICTIMS. AS WE TALK ABOUT -- FOR THOSE OF 246 00:15:43,695 --> 00:15:48,696 YOU WHO ENCOUNTER VICTIMS, NINE TIMES OUT OF 10, SPECIFICALLY 247 00:15:48,696 --> 00:15:53,736 WITH VICTIMS THAT EXPERIENCE HUMAN TRAFFICKING, FOR HUMAN 248 00:15:53,736 --> 00:15:57,780 TRAFFICKING VICTIMS, THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED SOME LEVEL OF 249 00:15:57,780 --> 00:16:00,788 TRAUMA. TRAUMA IS SUBJECTIVE, AND I WILL 250 00:16:00,788 --> 00:16:03,781 TALK ABOUT THAT MORE SO IN A MINUTE. 251 00:16:03,781 --> 00:16:07,778 I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL KNOW WHAT TRAUMA IS, BUT I WANT TO 252 00:16:07,778 --> 00:16:09,778 MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE 253 00:16:09,778 --> 00:16:11,779 DEFINITION. HERE IS THE DEFINITION OF TRAUMA 254 00:16:11,779 --> 00:16:13,781 THAT WILL SET THE FOUNDATION FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE 255 00:16:13,781 --> 00:16:20,777 CONVERSATION. , IS -- TRAUMA IS A SEVERE 256 00:16:20,777 --> 00:16:24,779 DISTRESS CAUSED BY EXPERIENCE OR EXPERIENCES. 257 00:16:24,779 --> 00:16:29,780 IT COULD BE ONE EXPERIENCE OR A NUMBER OF EXPERIENCES, CONTINUED 258 00:16:29,780 --> 00:16:34,780 EXPERIENCES. IT IS DEFINITELY TRUE WHEN WE 259 00:16:34,780 --> 00:16:39,827 TALK ABOUT TRAUMA AND THE EFFECTS OF TRAUMA. 260 00:16:39,827 --> 00:16:40,871 AT JUST THE SHORT-TERM EFFECTS, BUT EVEN THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS 261 00:16:40,871 --> 00:16:45,877 OF -- NOT JUST THE SHORT-TERM EFFECTS, BUT EVEN THE LONG-TERM 262 00:16:45,877 --> 00:16:48,873 EFFECTS OF TRAUMA DON'T REVEAL THEMSELVES RIGHT AWAY. 263 00:16:48,873 --> 00:16:53,946 BEFORE WE GET INTO THE SIGNS AND THE SYMPTOMS AND SO FORTH ABOUT 264 00:16:53,946 --> 00:16:55,989 TRAUMA, I WANT TO START WITH A CASE STUDY. 265 00:16:55,989 --> 00:17:01,988 MARY JUST TURNED 18 AND SHE A 266 00:17:01,988 --> 00:17:07,989 SHOUT OF FOSTER CARE. -- SHE AGED OUT OF FOSTER CARE. 267 00:17:07,989 --> 00:17:11,990 SHE CALLED THE POLICE AND TOLD THE POLICE SHE HAD BEEN TALKING 268 00:17:11,990 --> 00:17:17,078 ON THE PHONE MUCH OF THE NIGHT WITH HER FRIEND JORDAN. 269 00:17:17,078 --> 00:17:20,198 AFTER SHE FINALLY FELL SICK, SHE WAS AWAKENED BY A MAN WITH A 270 00:17:20,198 --> 00:17:23,247 KNIFE STANDING IN HER APARTMENT . 271 00:17:23,247 --> 00:17:28,376 THE MAN TIE HER UP, BLINDFOLDED HER, GAGGED HER, AND RAPED HER. 272 00:17:28,376 --> 00:17:32,136 SHE TOLD POLICE THAT SHE THOUGHT THE MEN WORE A 273 00:17:32,136 --> 00:17:35,897 CONDOM, WHICH WAS IN SHORT, AND AS FOR WHAT HER 274 00:17:35,897 --> 00:17:39,657 ATTACKER LOOKED LIKE, SHE COULD ONLY GIVE A FEW DETAILS. 275 00:17:39,658 --> 00:17:43,742 WHITE MAN WITH A GRAY SWEATER. THE ATTACK SEEMED TO LAST A LONG 276 00:17:43,742 --> 00:17:46,827 TIME, BUT YOU COULDN'T TELL. SHE ALSO TOLD THE POLICE SHE 277 00:17:46,827 --> 00:17:49,882 COULD SAY FOR SURE WHAT HAPPENED. IT WAS ALL A BLUR. 278 00:17:49,882 --> 00:17:56,038 MARY SAID AFTER THE RAPE, SHE 279 00:17:56,038 --> 00:18:01,071 MANAGED TO RETRIEVE SCISSORS FROM THE CABINET'S BOTTOM 280 00:18:01,071 --> 00:18:06,237 DRAWER, BECAUSE SHE TAKE HER ANTIHERO. SHE CUT HERSELF FREE. 281 00:18:06,237 --> 00:18:08,294 SHE CALLED HER FRIEND JORDAN. JORDAN DIDN'T ANSWER. 282 00:18:08,294 --> 00:18:12,322 SHE CALLED HER UPSTAIRS NEIGHBOR, WHO CAME DOWNSTAIRS TO 283 00:18:12,322 --> 00:18:19,452 MARY'S APARTMENT, AND HER NEIGHBOR CALLED 911. 284 00:18:19,452 --> 00:18:23,531 DURING THE TIME THE POLICE WERE TALKING TO HER DURING THE COURSE 285 00:18:23,531 --> 00:18:33,626 OF THE INVESTIGATION, MARY PRESENTED HERSELF AS CALM AND UN 286 00:18:33,626 --> 00:18:35,661 FLUSTERED. THEY TOOK HER TO THE HOSPITAL, 287 00:18:35,661 --> 00:18:39,656 AND THE SAME KIT WAS CONDUCTED. THE MEDICAL REPORT NOTED 288 00:18:39,656 --> 00:18:45,675 ABRASIONS TO MARY'S WRIST AND 289 00:18:45,675 --> 00:18:47,702 VAGINA. DURING THE EXAM, THE MEDICAL 290 00:18:47,702 --> 00:18:57,750 PERSONNEL WROTE THE COMMENT THAT MARY WAS 291 00:18:57,750 --> 00:18:58,744 ALERT, ORIENTED, AND IN NO ACUTE DISTRESS. 292 00:18:58,744 --> 00:19:03,829 THAT WAS THEIR ASSESSMENT. THEN MARY'S FORMER FOSTER MOM, 293 00:19:03,829 --> 00:19:10,609 SHARON, NOTICED SHE WAS AN OR UPSET WHEN SHE TALKED ABOUT THE 294 00:19:10,609 --> 00:19:13,999 RAPE. SHE SAID THAT WHEN MARY 295 00:19:13,999 --> 00:19:16,083 TOLD HER TO TELL HER SHE OPENED IT, THERE 296 00:19:16,083 --> 00:19:18,161 WAS NO EMOTION AT ALL, SHE SAID IT AS IF SHE WERE EATING A 297 00:19:18,161 --> 00:19:21,244 SANDWICH. THE REASON I POINT THIS OUT -- 298 00:19:21,244 --> 00:19:27,375 THIS IS ALL IN THE STORY -- SHANNON'S MARY FOSTER MOTHER 299 00:19:27,375 --> 00:19:28,385 CALLED THE DETECTIVE OF THE POLICE STATION AND TOLD HER THE 300 00:19:28,385 --> 00:19:36,491 STORY AND TOLD HER SHE GOT MARY -- SHE THOUGHT MARY WAS LYING. 301 00:19:36,491 --> 00:19:40,535 INVESTIGATOR CALLED HER INTO THE POLICE STATION AND ASKED HER TO 302 00:19:40,535 --> 00:19:41,532 RETELL HER STORY AND CONFRONTED HER AS IF SHE WAS LYING, AND 303 00:19:41,532 --> 00:19:45,581 MARY GOT FLUSTERED AND SAID SHE WASN'T SURE IT HAPPENED, MAYBE 304 00:19:45,581 --> 00:19:49,699 IT WAS ALL JUST A DREAM. BASED ON THAT, THE DETECTIVE 305 00:19:49,699 --> 00:19:55,739 DETERMINED THAT MARY WAS LYING, AND SHE GOT CHARGED WITH FILING 306 00:19:55,739 --> 00:20:00,781 A FALSE POLICE REPORT. 307 00:20:00,781 --> 00:20:03,783 BASED ON THAT, THE PROSECUTOR TOOK THE CASE FILE CHARGES 308 00:20:03,783 --> 00:20:07,782 AGAINST MARY. THE PROSECUTOR IN TURN AFTER 309 00:20:07,782 --> 00:20:12,793 MARY HIRED A LAWYER, OFFERED 310 00:20:12,793 --> 00:20:14,831 THAT IF SHE MET CONDITIONS FOR THE NEXT YEAR, THE CHARGE WOULD 311 00:20:14,831 --> 00:20:17,888 BE DROPPED. SHE WOULD NEED MENTAL HEALTH 312 00:20:17,888 --> 00:20:19,924 COUNSELING FOR HER LINE. SHE WOULD NEED TO GO 313 00:20:19,924 --> 00:20:24,995 UNSUPERVISED PROBATION. SHE WOULD NEED TO GO STRAIGHT, 314 00:20:24,995 --> 00:20:29,990 BREAK NO MORE LAWS, AND PAY $500 BECAUSE OF COURT COSTS. 315 00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:34,042 BECAUSE MARY WANTED ALL OF THIS BEHIND HER, SHE TOOK THE DEAL. 316 00:20:34,042 --> 00:20:38,124 MY QUESTION TO THE AUDIENCE IS, WHAT DO YOU THINK? 317 00:20:38,124 --> 00:20:44,125 WAS MARY TELLING THE TRUTH OR WAS MARY SEXUALLY ASSAULTED? 318 00:20:44,125 --> 00:20:50,129 IF YOU WANT TO TYPE IN, I WILL GIVE YOU A FEW MINUTES TO GIVE 319 00:20:50,129 --> 00:20:57,244 YOU YOUR RESPONSE. SOMEONE HERE WROTE, "WOW." 320 00:20:57,244 --> 00:21:05,330 WOW, RIGHT? 321 00:21:05,330 --> 00:21:16,575 WE ARE GETTING THE VOTES THAT MARY WAS DEFINITELY ASSAULTED. 322 00:21:16,575 --> 00:21:20,632 BEFORE I TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED TO MARY, LET'S TALK ABOUT 323 00:21:20,632 --> 00:21:21,631 TRAUMA. IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND 324 00:21:21,631 --> 00:21:29,791 HOW TRAUMA IMPACTS THE MIND AND THE BODY, AND WHY 325 00:21:29,791 --> 00:21:36,938 -- HOW VICTIMS MAY REACT. 326 00:21:36,938 --> 00:21:39,998 JUST REALLY QUICK, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRAUMA, IT AFFECTS THE 327 00:21:39,998 --> 00:21:44,133 BRAIN, OF COURSE. OUR PREFRONTAL CORTEX IS THE 328 00:21:44,133 --> 00:21:48,207 PART OF THE BRAIN THAT HELPS WITH THINKING, LOGIC, THE FILTER 329 00:21:48,207 --> 00:21:55,456 FOR RATIONALIZATION. WHEN TRAUMA HAPPENS, THE 330 00:21:55,456 --> 00:22:00,544 PREFRONTAL CORTEX SHUTS DOWN IN THE AMYGDALA TAKES OVER. 331 00:22:00,544 --> 00:22:07,719 THAT IS THE ALLMAN SHIPPED PART OF THE BRAIN THAT TURNS ON THE 332 00:22:07,719 --> 00:22:12,788 FREEZE RESPONSE SYSTEM IT IS THE PART OF THE BRAIN THAT WHEN WE 333 00:22:12,788 --> 00:22:16,929 PERCEIVE DANGER, IT SOUNDS OFF THE ALERT TO THE BEST OF THE 334 00:22:16,929 --> 00:22:20,995 BRAIN AND THE BODY. IN THAT PREFRONTAL CORTEX AND 335 00:22:20,995 --> 00:22:28,129 THE ENDING DOLLAR WORK WITH THE HIPPOCAMPUS. THE 336 00:22:28,129 --> 00:22:32,183 HIPPOCAMPUS REGULATES MEMORY AND EMOTIONS. 337 00:22:32,183 --> 00:22:37,328 IT IS BEING DOMINANT. THE MEMORIES ARE STORED IN THE 338 00:22:37,328 --> 00:22:42,375 WAY THEY SHOULD BE STORED. WHEN THE ON THE DOLLAR -- 339 00:22:42,375 --> 00:22:46,376 AMYGDAL A TAKES OVER CAN MEMORIES 340 00:22:46,376 --> 00:22:49,427 BECOME FRAGMENTED. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT 341 00:22:49,427 --> 00:22:53,431 HAPPENS IN THE BODY THAT WE HAVE A RELEASE OF HORMONES. 342 00:22:53,431 --> 00:22:56,454 DR. REBECCA CAMPBELL AND HER STUDY REFERS TO IT AS A HORMONAL 343 00:22:56,454 --> 00:23:02,496 COCKTAIL. WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THERE ARE F 344 00:23:02,496 --> 00:23:06,536 OUR MAIN HORMONES THAT ARE RELEASED. 345 00:23:06,536 --> 00:23:08,540 BASICALLY, OUR ADRENALINE THAT PREPARES US FOR THE FIGHT OR 346 00:23:08,540 --> 00:23:11,538 FLIGHT RESPONSE. CORTISOL GIVES US ADDITIONAL 347 00:23:11,538 --> 00:23:16,538 ENERGY AND MAKES ADDITIONAL ENERGY AVAILABLE IN CASE WE 348 00:23:16,538 --> 00:23:22,583 DECIDE TO FIGHT OR FLIGHT. 349 00:23:22,583 --> 00:23:24,632 IT CAN PREVENT PAIN AND HELP TO ABSORB ANY PAIN THAT MAY COME 350 00:23:24,632 --> 00:23:28,746 WITH THE TRAUMA. AND THEN THE OXYCONTIN PROMOTES 351 00:23:28,746 --> 00:23:32,887 GOOD FEELINGS. THE REASON IT IS THE HORMONAL 352 00:23:32,887 --> 00:23:35,793 COCKTAIL IS THE RELEASE OF HORMONES WILL BE DIFFERENT FOR 353 00:23:35,793 --> 00:23:39,833 EACH ONE OF US. IF WE ARE ALL IN THE SAME ROOM 354 00:23:39,833 --> 00:23:45,957 WHERE THE SAME EXPERIENCE, THAT HORMONAL CASE WILL BE DIFFERENT 355 00:23:45,957 --> 00:23:51,086 FOR ALL OF US. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT HORMONAL 356 00:23:51,086 --> 00:23:58,176 COCKTAIL HAPPENS -- THE BODY IS 357 00:23:58,176 --> 00:24:03,222 IN SURVIVAL MODE. THERE IS NO WAY TO DETERMINE OR 358 00:24:03,222 --> 00:24:05,248 REGULATE HOW MUCH YOU HORMONES ARE RELEASED. 359 00:24:05,248 --> 00:24:11,426 KEEPING THE BODY IN BALANCE, BUT WE EXPERIENCE SOME TYPE OF 360 00:24:11,426 --> 00:24:18,635 EMERGENCY OR PERCEIVED THREAT OR DANGER TO US. 361 00:24:18,635 --> 00:24:19,683 THE HORMONES ARE RELEASED. IF WE GET TOO MUCH OF ONE OR THE 362 00:24:19,683 --> 00:24:26,833 OTHER, THESE THINGS HAPPEN. 363 00:24:26,833 --> 00:24:28,934 SOMETIMES IT IMPAIRS OUR RATIONAL THINKING. 364 00:24:28,934 --> 00:24:33,959 OPIOIDS CAN CAUSE THE FLAT 365 00:24:33,959 --> 00:24:38,695 AFFECT, AND THEN THE CORTISOL CAN REDUCE ENERGY. 366 00:24:38,695 --> 00:24:42,247 SOMETIMES THE OPPOSITE EFFECT CAN HAPPEN. 367 00:24:42,247 --> 00:24:46,210 ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WANT TO MAKE SURE I MENTIONED IN THIS 368 00:24:46,210 --> 00:24:52,332 IS THE TOXIC IMMOBILITY CAN ALSO HAPPEN. 369 00:24:52,332 --> 00:24:56,797 THE BODY IS FLOODED WITH THE HORMONES AND IT IS TOO MUCH. 370 00:24:56,797 --> 00:24:58,430 SOMETIMES THERE IS A MUSCULAR PARALYSIS THAT OCCURS, AND THAT 371 00:24:58,430 --> 00:25:01,461 IS WHERE THE FREEZE RESPONSE COMES INTO PLAY. 372 00:25:01,461 --> 00:25:08,685 THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT IS DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS. 373 00:25:08,685 --> 00:25:09,679 THE PERSON FREEZES REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE SITUATION IS AND THEY 374 00:25:09,679 --> 00:25:12,710 ARE NOT ABLE TO THINK OR REACT IN THE MANNER WE EXPECT THEM TO. 375 00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:18,836 THE BODY PHYSICALLY SHUTS DOWN. 376 00:25:18,836 --> 00:25:25,997 WHEN WE KNOW IN THE STUDY IS THAT 12 TO 50% OF RAPE VICTIMS 377 00:25:25,997 --> 00:25:33,249 EXPERIENCE TOXIC IMMOBILITY AND SOME POINT DURING THE ASSAULT. 378 00:25:33,249 --> 00:25:36,289 ONE OF THE THINGS HE ALSO KNOWS THAT CHILDREN, ADOLESCENTS 379 00:25:36,289 --> 00:25:41,300 ESPECIALLY CHILDREN WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED ABUSE, SPECIFICALLY 380 00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:43,294 CHILD MOLESTATION, BUT OTHER TYPES OF ABUSE, CAN EXPERIENCE 381 00:25:43,294 --> 00:25:49,388 TOXIC IMMOBILITY WILLING TO OUTPUT -- WELL INTO BATTLE THAT 382 00:25:49,388 --> 00:25:54,550 COMMIT CERTAIN THINGS DON'T HAPPEN -- WELL INTO ADULTHOOD, 383 00:25:54,550 --> 00:25:59,634 IF CERTAIN THINGS DON'T HAPPEN. THE HORMONAL RELEASE, THE 384 00:25:59,634 --> 00:26:03,684 BRAIN FUNCTION, GOING INTO THE EMERGENCY SURVIVAL MODE, ALL OF 385 00:26:03,684 --> 00:26:08,796 THESE THINGS HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME. 386 00:26:08,796 --> 00:26:12,887 FUNCTIONING MAY BE IMPAIRED. TO INCLUDE THE HIPPOCAMPUS AND 387 00:26:12,887 --> 00:26:14,960 HOW IT IS RECORDING THE MEMORY, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE FRAGMENTED 388 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,970 MEMORIES 389 00:26:19,970 --> 00:26:22,041 , PROBLEMS OF RECALL MAY BE SLOW OR NONEXISTENT. 390 00:26:22,041 --> 00:26:27,089 AND THEN IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT 391 00:26:27,089 --> 00:26:30,199 TO REMEMBER THAT IF DRUGS OR ALCOHOL ARE INVOLVED, SOMETIMES 392 00:26:30,199 --> 00:26:33,216 THE MEMORY RECORDING OR THE ENCODING DOESN'T HAPPEN. 393 00:26:33,216 --> 00:26:35,270 SOME OF THOSE MEMORIES MAY NEVER BE RETRIEVED. 394 00:26:35,270 --> 00:26:39,338 IN ALL OF THAT, SAYING ALL OF THAT, IT IS GOOD TO KNOW THAT IN 395 00:26:39,338 --> 00:26:44,113 THE EVENT OF AN ASSAULT, THE MEMORY CAN BE RECALLED 396 00:26:44,113 --> 00:26:47,456 , AND WHAT STUDIES HAVE RECOMMENDED IS THAT 397 00:26:47,456 --> 00:26:52,710 THE VICTIM BE ALLOWED TO REST FOR 24 TO 48 HOURS, GIVE THE 398 00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:59,690 HORMONES A CHANCE TO BALANCE OUT AND REREGULATE IN THE BODY, AND 399 00:26:59,690 --> 00:27:04,794 FOR THE MEMBERS TO START TO COME TOGETHER FOR -- MEMORIES TO 400 00:27:04,794 --> 00:27:08,943 START TO COME TOGETHER. I WANT TO STRESS WHAT HAPPENS 401 00:27:08,943 --> 00:27:11,960 WHEN WE HAVE A VICTIM THAT IS EXPERIENCING OR HAS EXPERIENCED 402 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,001 COMPLEX TRAUMA. IN THE CASE OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING 403 00:27:14,001 --> 00:27:19,044 VICTIM, LABOR VICTIM OR SIX 404 00:27:19,044 --> 00:27:24,135 TRAFFIC VICTIM, BECAUSE THE COMPLEX TRAUMA OR REPEATED 405 00:27:24,135 --> 00:27:26,209 TRAUMA IS OCCURRING WITH THE VICTIM AND THEY ARE EXPERIENCING 406 00:27:26,209 --> 00:27:31,173 REPEATED TRAUMA, SOMETIMES THE HIPPOCAMPUS WILL SHRINK. 407 00:27:31,173 --> 00:27:37,337 WHEN THE HIPPOCAMPUS SHRINKS , IT HAS A MAJOR IMPACT ON 408 00:27:37,337 --> 00:27:44,515 STORYTELLING. DON'T GET ME WRONG, VICTIMS DO 409 00:27:44,515 --> 00:27:48,503 LIVE, VICTIMS RECANT, VICTIMS MANIPULATE, THEY DO ALL SORTS OF 410 00:27:48,503 --> 00:27:52,635 THINGS. THAT IS WHERE A GOOD INVESTIGATOR WEEDS OUT THE FACTS 411 00:27:52,635 --> 00:27:55,657 FROM FICTION. THESE ARE ALL THINGS TO TAKE 412 00:27:55,657 --> 00:28:00,796 INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN HE FIRST ENCOUNTERED THE VICTIM AND 413 00:28:00,796 --> 00:28:01,836 PRESENTED IN A WAY THAT IS COUNTERINTUITIVE FROM WHAT YOU 414 00:28:01,836 --> 00:28:06,960 WOULD EXPECT ON HOW VICTIMS 415 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,959 SHOULD RESPOND. WHEN THE VICTIM IS EXPERIENCING 416 00:28:07,959 --> 00:28:13,051 TRAUMA, AGAIN, THERE IS MAJOR IMPACT ON STORYTELLING, OR THE 417 00:28:13,051 --> 00:28:19,190 INABILITY TO TELL THE STORY FROM BEGINNING TO END. 418 00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:22,373 THE VICTIM MAY TELL WHAT HAPPENS LAST AND THEN THEY FORGET 419 00:28:22,373 --> 00:28:24,689 THINGS OR THEY COME BACK LATER ON AND 420 00:28:24,689 --> 00:28:27,294 REMEMBER SOMETHING ELSE. SOMETIMES IT MAY COME ACROSS AS 421 00:28:27,294 --> 00:28:34,435 IF THEY ARE MAKING THE STORY OUT, OR THEY ARE LYING, BECAUSE 422 00:28:34,435 --> 00:28:40,545 THE REDUCED ABILITY OF EMOTION 423 00:28:40,545 --> 00:28:41,547 WHEN TRAUMA HAPPENS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED THAT WE 424 00:28:41,547 --> 00:28:45,747 TALK ABOUT. ALSO FROM THE EMOTIONAL 425 00:28:45,747 --> 00:28:49,800 SIGNIFICANCE OF AN EVENT IS NOT COMMUNICATED TO THE CORTEX WHEN 426 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,884 THE HIPPOCAMPUS IS SHRUNK OR THEY FIRST EXPERIENCED THE 427 00:28:52,884 --> 00:28:57,968 TRAUMA. SO THE STORY MADE, NOW 428 00:28:57,968 --> 00:29:01,082 FRAGMENTED AND SKETCHY. THE VICTIM HAS THE INABILITY TO 429 00:29:01,082 --> 00:29:07,139 RECALL EVENTS IN A SEQUENTIAL OR LINEAR WAY. 430 00:29:07,139 --> 00:29:14,254 THE VICTIM MAY PRESENT AS THEY ARE LYING, THERE BEING 431 00:29:14,254 --> 00:29:17,382 INVASIVE, MAKING UP THINGS AS THEY GO. 432 00:29:17,382 --> 00:29:18,300 THE ACCURACY OF THE MEMORY IS IMPAIRED. 433 00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:25,514 THEY MADE COMPACT AND BE ABLE TO GIVE MORE INFORMATION AS TO WHAT 434 00:29:25,514 --> 00:29:29,632 MAY HAPPEN, BUT THE ACCURACY COMES INTO QUESTION BECAUSE OF 435 00:29:29,632 --> 00:29:33,685 THE TRAUMA. WE ALSO KNOW THAT WHEN VICTIMS 436 00:29:33,685 --> 00:29:38,764 ARE 437 00:29:38,764 --> 00:29:45,965 PRESENT, SOMETIMES THEY HAVE SCATTERED BEHAVIOR. 438 00:29:45,965 --> 00:29:47,035 FLAT ACCENT, NO EMOTION AT ALL WHEN THEY ARE TELLING THE STORY, 439 00:29:47,035 --> 00:29:53,085 LIKE THEY ARE EATING A SANDWICH. THERE MAY -- THEY MAY BE JOKING 440 00:29:53,085 --> 00:29:56,755 INAPPROPRIATELY OR WHEN THEY ARE INTERACTING. 441 00:29:56,755 --> 00:29:59,202 WE TALK ABOUT COLLAPSED 442 00:29:59,202 --> 00:30:02,221 IMMOBILITY. SOME SECONDARY INJURIES THAT 443 00:30:02,221 --> 00:30:08,296 OCCUR WITH VICTIMS, WHY VICTIMS SHOULD BE ABLE TO REST AND 444 00:30:08,296 --> 00:30:10,335 RECUPERATE AND RECOVER, SOMETIMES THEY HAVE ONGOING 445 00:30:10,335 --> 00:30:13,440 ISSUES OF SLEEP DISORDERS, FLASHBACKS, EXTREME TENSION AND 446 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:20,546 ANXIETY THAT MAY BE HYPERVIGILANT IN REAL OR 447 00:30:20,546 --> 00:30:25,817 PERCEIVED ENVIRONMENTS OF DANGER , THEIR OUTBURSTS OF ANGER, 448 00:30:25,817 --> 00:30:28,755 MEMORY TROUBLE, SO ON AND SO FORTH. 449 00:30:28,755 --> 00:30:32,884 THERE IS A HOST OF ISSUES AND THESE ARE A FEW OF THE SECONDARY 450 00:30:32,884 --> 00:30:36,963 INJURIES THAT OCCUR WITH TRAUMA VICTIMS. 451 00:30:36,963 --> 00:30:41,012 THEY COULD IMPACT WHEN YOU KNOW AND HOW THEY MAY BE PRESENTING 452 00:30:41,012 --> 00:30:45,420 WHEN YOU TELL THE STORY. KNOWING WHAT YOU ARE JUST 453 00:30:45,420 --> 00:30:51,212 LEARNED ABOUT MARY'S STORY, NOW 454 00:30:51,212 --> 00:30:56,213 WHAT DO YOU THINK? ALREADY HAVE SOME RESPONSES 455 00:30:56,213 --> 00:31:00,303 HERE . SOMEONE SAID, "IT IS HARD TO SAY 456 00:31:00,303 --> 00:31:07,382 WITHOUT ACTUALLY SEEING HER." "I AGREE THAT HER ACTIONS 457 00:31:07,382 --> 00:31:13,465 SHOULD NOT AFFECT THE RESPONSE OF THE POLICE OFFICER." 458 00:31:13,465 --> 00:31:17,546 SOMEONE MADE A GOOD POINT ABOUT TRAUMA RESPONSE TO INDIVIDUALS 459 00:31:17,546 --> 00:31:22,637 DISASSOCIATE FROM THE EVENT. 460 00:31:22,637 --> 00:31:25,685 ABSOLUTELY THEY DISASSOCIATE TOTALLY AND MAY NOT BE ABLE TO 461 00:31:25,685 --> 00:31:31,804 RECALL ANYTHING. 462 00:31:31,804 --> 00:31:36,838 ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS 463 00:31:36,838 --> 00:31:43,842 ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK HAPPENS TO MARY? 464 00:31:43,842 --> 00:31:47,885 SOMEONE TYPED, "I HOPE THERE WAS SOME JUSTICE." I HOPE SO, TOO. 465 00:31:47,885 --> 00:31:52,885 WE WILL GET TO THAT A MINUTE. SOMEONE IS TYPING THIS I WILL 466 00:31:52,885 --> 00:31:55,885 LET THEM TAKE THEIR RESPONSE AND THEN MOVE ON. 467 00:31:55,885 --> 00:32:00,938 GREAT POINT, SHE COULD HAVE HAD 468 00:32:00,938 --> 00:32:06,084 PREVIOUS TRAUMA. I JUST TOUCHED ON COMPLEX OR 469 00:32:06,084 --> 00:32:10,090 REPEATED TRAUMA. IT ALSO MAY AFFECT HOW THE 470 00:32:10,090 --> 00:32:20,217 VICTIM PRESENTS DURING THE COURSE OF THE INVESTIGATION. 471 00:32:20,217 --> 00:32:25,352 I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE FRIENDS. 472 00:32:25,352 --> 00:32:30,575 LET'S MOVE ON TO -- LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS. 473 00:32:30,575 --> 00:32:36,548 WHAT HAPPENED WAS MARY'S RAPIST 474 00:32:36,548 --> 00:32:37,553 WAS ARRESTED SEVERAL MONTHS LATER FOR RAPING ANOTHER WOMAN. 475 00:32:37,553 --> 00:32:42,686 HIS LAST NAME WAS O'LEARY, AND 476 00:32:42,686 --> 00:32:48,764 HE PLEADED GUILTY TO 28 COUNTS OF RAPE AND ASSOCIATED FELONIES 477 00:32:48,764 --> 00:32:50,761 IN COLORADO. THIS HAPPENED DID 2011. 478 00:32:50,761 --> 00:32:57,934 IT WAS ALMOST A YEAR -- HE WAS SENTENCED TO 327 YEARS. 479 00:32:57,934 --> 00:32:59,946 YAY, THERE WAS JUSTICE. HE IS CURRENTLY INCARCERATED. 480 00:32:59,946 --> 00:33:06,013 MARY ALSO SUED THE CITY AND SETTLED FOR $150,000 FOR HER 481 00:33:06,013 --> 00:33:12,142 TROUBLES. 482 00:33:12,142 --> 00:33:15,220 SOMEONE MADE A GOOD POINT THAT THIS COULD HAVE LED IT TO 483 00:33:15,220 --> 00:33:20,319 ADDITIONAL TRAUMA. ABSOLUTELY. 484 00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:26,340 THAT'S A GREAT POINT -- DO ANY OF YOU THINK THAT MARY WAS RE, 485 00:33:26,340 --> 00:33:30,342 TIES DURING THE COURSE OF -- RE TRAUMATIZED 486 00:33:30,342 --> 00:33:34,345 DURING THE COURSE OF ALL OF THIS OCCURRING? 487 00:33:34,345 --> 00:33:46,345 SOMEONE SAID, "ABSOLUTELY, BECAUSE SHE WASN'T BELIEVED." 488 00:33:46,392 --> 00:33:52,550 IF YOU DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING ELSE, THE BIGGEST TAKE AWAY, 489 00:33:52,550 --> 00:33:53,710 WHAT I WANT YOU TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE CONVERSATION TODAY IS 490 00:33:53,710 --> 00:33:56,637 THAT EACH VICTIM WILL RESPOND DIFFERENTLY. 491 00:33:56,637 --> 00:34:02,769 NO TWO INDIVIDUALS ARE ALIKE. 492 00:34:02,769 --> 00:34:06,849 JUST AS I SAID EARLIER, ALL OF US CAN BE EXPOSED TO THE SAME 493 00:34:06,849 --> 00:34:07,842 TRAUMATIC EVENT, AND EACH OF US WILL RESPOND DIFFERENTLY BASED 494 00:34:07,842 --> 00:34:11,857 ON A LOT OF THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY. 495 00:34:11,857 --> 00:34:15,940 SUPPORT NETWORKS, RESILIENCY, IF THERE IS PRIOR TRAUMA IN THE 496 00:34:15,940 --> 00:34:19,143 HISTORY. ALL OF THOSE THINGS COME INTO 497 00:34:19,143 --> 00:34:22,187 PLAY IN TERMS OF HOW WE REACT. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WANT 498 00:34:22,187 --> 00:34:27,301 TO TOUCH ON THAT WE SEE A LOT 499 00:34:27,301 --> 00:34:32,349 WHAT SPECIFICALLY TRAFFICKING VICTIMS IS TRAUMA BONDING. 500 00:34:32,349 --> 00:34:37,387 IN SOME CIRCLES WE KNOW THIS AS STOCKHOLM SYNDROME, OR INDEED 501 00:34:37,387 --> 00:34:42,438 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE -- IN THE 502 00:34:42,438 --> 00:34:43,437 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ARENA, THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE. 503 00:34:43,437 --> 00:34:45,372 THESE FOUR ELEMENTS HAVE TO 504 00:34:45,372 --> 00:34:48,469 HAPPEN IN ORDER FOR TRAUMA BONDING TO OCCUR. 505 00:34:48,469 --> 00:34:52,513 WHAT TRAUMA BONDING IS IS THAT THE VICTIM HAS AN INTIMATE 506 00:34:52,513 --> 00:34:58,609 ATTACHMENT TO THEIR ABUSER OR 507 00:34:58,609 --> 00:34:59,648 THEIR TRAFFICKER. THE FIRST THING THAT OCCURS IS 508 00:34:59,648 --> 00:35:02,691 THE PERSON IS THREATENED THE LIFE OF THE OTHER, AND POSSIBLY 509 00:35:02,691 --> 00:35:05,720 THROUGH VIOLENCE , THE FRIGHTENED 510 00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:09,808 PERSON CAN'T ESCAPE AND IS DEPENDENT ON THE ABUSER. 511 00:35:09,808 --> 00:35:16,885 REMEMBER, THAT IS THE VICTIM'S 512 00:35:16,885 --> 00:35:19,889 PERCEPTION, NOT OUR PERCEPTION. WHETHER THAT PERCEPTION IS 513 00:35:19,889 --> 00:35:23,974 REALITY OR PERCEIVED IT IS THE VICTIM'S PERCEPTION IF THEY 514 00:35:23,974 --> 00:35:27,016 DON'T HAVE A WAY OUT, AND THEY HAVE TO STAY WITH THE ABUSER. 515 00:35:27,016 --> 00:35:35,140 IT IS ISOLATED FROM OTHERS TO ELIMINATE SUPPORT. 516 00:35:35,140 --> 00:35:37,223 AND THEN THE ABUSER SHOWS SOME DEGREE OF KINDNESS TO THE 517 00:35:37,223 --> 00:35:41,302 THREATENED PERSON. THEY MAY TAKE THEM OUT AND BUY 518 00:35:41,302 --> 00:35:46,390 THEM SOMETHING NEW OR THEY MAY TREAT THEM TO SOMETHING SPECIAL 519 00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:48,441 AND GET THEM SOME KIND OF SPECIAL PRIVILEGE OR WHATEVER 520 00:35:48,441 --> 00:35:51,469 THE CASE MAY BE. IT BECOMES A VICIOUS CYCLE OF 521 00:35:51,469 --> 00:35:54,181 THESE THINGS OCCURRING. IF YOU'RE IN A DOMESTIC 522 00:35:54,181 --> 00:35:56,555 VIOLENCE ARENA COME IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR 523 00:35:56,555 --> 00:36:01,696 WITH THE CYCLE OF ABUSE, THIS IS THE SAME TYPE OF ELEMENT THAT 524 00:36:01,696 --> 00:36:08,004 HAPPENS THAT DRAWS THE VICTIM IN AND BECOMES DEPENDENT ON THE 525 00:36:08,004 --> 00:36:11,941 ABUSER OR THE TRAFFICKER. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT OCCUR 526 00:36:11,941 --> 00:36:18,054 WHEN TRAUMA BONDING HAPPENS IS THERE IS A DISTORTED PERCEPTION 527 00:36:18,054 --> 00:36:19,058 OF THE OFFENDER. THE VICTIM MAY PERCEIVE THE 528 00:36:19,058 --> 00:36:24,140 OFFENDER AS A POSITIVE OR SUPPORTIVE PERSON. IT IS 529 00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:26,140 DISHEARTENING TO KNOW THAT THE NUMBER OF VICTIMS THAT TOLD 530 00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:30,222 ME THAT THEIR TRAFFICKING SITUATION OR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 531 00:36:30,222 --> 00:36:35,343 SITUATION WAS BETTER THAN THE ENVIRONMENT THEY CAME FROM. 532 00:36:35,343 --> 00:36:40,470 OFFENDERS -- THE PERCEPTION IS THAT THE OFFENDER'S BEHAVIOR IS 533 00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:44,559 A RESULT OF ALCOHOL AND DRUGS OR MARITAL PROBLEMS. 534 00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:48,604 YOU HAVE THE VICTIMS MAKING UP EXCUSES, AND THE PERCEIVED 535 00:36:48,604 --> 00:36:51,693 OFFENDER, BOYFRIEND OR GIRLFRIEND, THEY SEE THE PERSON 536 00:36:51,693 --> 00:36:55,519 AS SOMEONE WHO LOVES AND/OR 537 00:36:55,519 --> 00:37:01,259 CARES ABOUT THEM. NOT OUR DEFINITION OF WHAT A 538 00:37:01,259 --> 00:37:03,811 HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP WOULD BE, 539 00:37:03,811 --> 00:37:05,889 BUT IT IS THE VICTIM'S PERCEPTION AND WHAT THEY 540 00:37:05,889 --> 00:37:10,780 UNDERSTAND THAT TO BE. ALSO, USUALLY WITH THE VICTIM IS 541 00:37:10,780 --> 00:37:14,694 THERE ARE PERCEPTIONS OF SELF-ESTEEM AS A VICTIM. 542 00:37:14,694 --> 00:37:19,097 A LOT OF TIMES VICTIMS DON'T RECOGNIZE OR ACKNOWLEDGE 543 00:37:19,097 --> 00:37:22,224 THEMSELVES AS VICTIMS. THEY FEEL RESPONSIBLE FOR THE 544 00:37:22,224 --> 00:37:25,263 ABUSE AND TRAFFICKING THAT OCCURS, AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY 545 00:37:25,263 --> 00:37:30,388 FEEL AS THOUGH HE OR SHE IS A PARTNER IN THE ABUSIVE 546 00:37:30,388 --> 00:37:34,394 RELATIONSHIP, MEANING THAT THEY CONTRIBUTE 547 00:37:34,394 --> 00:37:37,442 , SOMEHOW OR SOME WAY, IT IS THEIR FAULT THAT THE ABUSE 548 00:37:37,442 --> 00:37:45,516 OR THE TRAFFICKING IS OCCURRING. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE 549 00:37:45,516 --> 00:37:50,564 VICTIM-CENTERED APPROACH, WITH ALL THAT WE TALK ABOUT IN THIS 550 00:37:50,564 --> 00:37:53,643 DISCUSSION WITH TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE AND HOW WE INFORM VICTIMS 551 00:37:53,643 --> 00:37:59,724 AND NOT BASING IT ON THEIR BEHAVIOR AND HOW THEY PRESENT 552 00:37:59,724 --> 00:38:03,805 OUR VICTIM-CENTERED APPROACH ALWAYS AVOIDS JUDGMENT OF WHAT 553 00:38:03,805 --> 00:38:12,028 THE VICTIM MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE EXPERIENCED, AND EXCESSIVE 554 00:38:12,028 --> 00:38:16,122 SYMPATHY CAN BE PERCEIVED AS A PUT DOWN OR CONDESCENDING. 555 00:38:16,122 --> 00:38:18,578 PLEASE DON'T ARGUE WITH THE VICTIM. 556 00:38:18,578 --> 00:38:22,263 I'VE SEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT ARGUE AND INTERROGATE VICTIMS, WHICH 557 00:38:22,263 --> 00:38:30,476 WILL GET YOU NOWHERE EXCEPT SHUT DOWN VICTIMS. 558 00:38:30,476 --> 00:38:32,520 THE QUESTION OF THE VICTIM'S REACTIONS -- ASKING THEM WHY 559 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,558 THEY DID WHAT THEY DID OR SAID WHAT THEY SAID WHEN THEY WERE IN 560 00:38:34,558 --> 00:38:38,600 THE MIDST OF THE TRAFFICKING. AND ASSUMING THAT YOU KNOW THE 561 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:44,725 ANSWER. OUR VICTIMS, OR MOST VICTIMS 562 00:38:44,725 --> 00:38:49,768 ARE NOT THAT -- THEY ARE VERY INTELLIGENT, THEY ARE JUST IN A 563 00:38:49,768 --> 00:38:51,812 HORRIBLE SITUATION. ASSUME THAT YOU ALREADY KNOW THE 564 00:38:51,812 --> 00:38:55,894 ANSWER, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO PICK UP ON THAT, YOU WILL LOSE 565 00:38:55,894 --> 00:39:06,013 THE VICTIM AND ANY TRUST AND RAPPORT YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED. 566 00:39:06,013 --> 00:39:10,014 ONE WE ALSO KNOW, AND WHY OUR VICTIMS SERVICE PROGRAM EXISTS 567 00:39:10,014 --> 00:39:15,107 CAN WE KNOW THAT THEY REQUIRE 568 00:39:15,107 --> 00:39:18,197 COMPREHENSIVE HOLISTIC SERVICES. SOME PREFER TO IT AS WRAPAROUND 569 00:39:18,197 --> 00:39:22,313 SERVICES, MAKING SURE VICTIMS HAVE WHAT THEY NEED IN TERMS OF 570 00:39:22,313 --> 00:39:27,475 RESOURCES AND SUPPORT. 571 00:39:27,475 --> 00:39:28,518 ASSISTING THE VICTIM REINTEGRATING INTO THEIR FAMILY 572 00:39:28,518 --> 00:39:35,643 AND SOCIETY, IF THEY SO CHOOSE. 573 00:39:35,643 --> 00:39:38,691 SELF-DETERMINATION ALWAYS SHOULD COME INTO PLAY. 574 00:39:38,691 --> 00:39:42,766 TRAINING AND EDUCATION FOR PUBLIC LAW ENFORCEMENT AND 575 00:39:42,766 --> 00:39:45,828 SERVICE PROVIDERS WILL ALSO ASSIST WITH THE VICTIMS 576 00:39:45,828 --> 00:39:48,854 RETURNING TO A HEALTHY, FULFILLING LIFE. 577 00:39:48,854 --> 00:39:55,944 THIS IS THE BLUE CAMPAIGN'S 578 00:39:55,944 --> 00:40:01,100 CONTACT INFORMATION AGAIN. SCOTT AND MY E-MAIL ADDRESS, 579 00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:07,108 SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE WEBINAR ENDS -- DOES 580 00:40:07,108 --> 00:40:11,140 ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME AND WHAT WE COVERED? 581 00:40:11,140 --> 00:40:14,328 WE WENT THROUGH THAT KIND OF FAST. 582 00:40:14,328 --> 00:40:16,151 >> NOW IS A GOOD 583 00:40:16,151 --> 00:40:18,028 TIME TO TYPE IN YOUR QUESTIONS SO WE CAN GET TO 584 00:40:18,028 --> 00:40:19,223 THEM. I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT 585 00:40:19,223 --> 00:40:21,272 UPON LEAVING THE WEBINAR TODAY, WE WANT YOU TO TAKE THE SHORT 586 00:40:21,272 --> 00:40:27,393 SURVEY AT THE END. THOUGH FREE TO DO THAT AS WELL. 587 00:40:27,393 --> 00:40:39,393 WE WILL TAKE A MOMENT AND WAIT FOR SOME QUESTIONS TO COME IN. 588 00:40:56,807 --> 00:41:02,893 >> THE FIRST QUESTION IS, I'M 589 00:41:02,893 --> 00:41:06,903 ASSUMING, WHAT KIND OF TRAINING IS BEING PROVIDED TO LAW 590 00:41:06,903 --> 00:41:07,893 ENFORCEMENT? IS IT AGENCY-SPECIFIC? 591 00:41:07,893 --> 00:41:12,870 >> WHY DON'T YOU TAKE THIS ON FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF TRAUMA 592 00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:13,976 -- 593 00:41:13,976 --> 00:41:18,016 >> WE DO A NUMBER OF THINGS. OUR FORENSIC INTERVIEW 594 00:41:18,016 --> 00:41:22,106 SPECIALISTS WORK WITH CHILD ADVOCACY CENTERS ON PROVIDING 595 00:41:22,106 --> 00:41:27,228 TRAINING AND EDUCATION ON HOW TO FORENSICALLY INTERVIEWED 596 00:41:27,228 --> 00:41:35,268 CHILDREN AND NOT TO RE, TYSON. THERE IS SPECIFIC PRODUCT -- 597 00:41:35,268 --> 00:41:42,351 NOT TO RETRAUMATIZE THEM. THERE IS SPECIFIC TRAINING FOR 598 00:41:42,351 --> 00:41:46,356 THE FORENSIC INTERVIEW. WE ALSO ARE PARTNERED WITH THE 599 00:41:46,356 --> 00:41:51,479 STATE DEPARTMENT AND TRAVEL GLOBALLY TO EDUCATE ON VICTIMS 600 00:41:51,479 --> 00:41:55,518 SERVICES ON THE INTERNATIONAL LAW-ENFORCEMENT ACADEMY. 601 00:41:55,518 --> 00:42:02,609 THE SPECIALISTS TRAVEL 602 00:42:02,609 --> 00:42:05,728 YEAR-ROUND TO EDUCATE ON DOCTRINE AND VICTIM SERVICES. 603 00:42:05,728 --> 00:42:07,725 >> SOUNDS GOOD. 604 00:42:07,725 --> 00:42:12,810 >> EXPRESS TO HIM, DOES -- NEXT 605 00:42:12,810 --> 00:42:16,809 QUESTION, DOES HSI PROVIDE EMERGENCY RESPONSE SITUATIONS? 606 00:42:16,809 --> 00:42:23,895 >>WE ABSOLUTELY DO. IT IS A DOJ 607 00:42:23,895 --> 00:42:25,896 GRANT PROVIDED TO US FOR CRISIS INTERVENTION AND, FOR 608 00:42:25,896 --> 00:42:32,017 EXAMPLE, WHEN VICTIMS OF TRAFFICKING ARE RESCUED 609 00:42:32,017 --> 00:42:34,108 AND THEY MAY NOT HAVE CLOTHES OR FOOD OR 610 00:42:34,108 --> 00:42:37,147 HOUSING OR NEEDED MEDICAL ATTENTION. 611 00:42:37,147 --> 00:42:39,244 WE CAN UTILIZE THE EMERGENCY FUNDS FOR THE SERVICES TO MAKE 612 00:42:39,244 --> 00:42:50,314 SURE THEY HAVE THE SERVICES. HOW DID YOUR CULTURAL THING WAS 613 00:42:50,314 --> 00:42:54,398 VERY AS AFFECTED THE VICTIM-CENTERED APPROACH TO 614 00:42:54,398 --> 00:42:57,509 TRAFFICKING? WE ARE VERY AWARE ESPECIALLY 615 00:42:57,509 --> 00:42:59,521 WHEN WE KNOW THAT THEY DON'T HAVE STATUS OR THEY ARE FROM 616 00:42:59,521 --> 00:43:04,609 ANOTHER COUNTRY. 617 00:43:04,609 --> 00:43:08,748 THAT IS PART OF THE TRAINING TO ASSESS CULTURAL DIFFERENCES AND 618 00:43:08,748 --> 00:43:13,863 THINGS THAT CAN EVEN WHEN IT 619 00:43:13,863 --> 00:43:15,898 COMES TO FOOD AND DRESS, THEY ARE SENSITIVE TO THE NEEDS OF 620 00:43:15,898 --> 00:43:20,946 THE VICTIM WHEN THEY NEED SPECIFIC FOODS BECAUSE OF THE 621 00:43:20,946 --> 00:43:23,071 ETHNICITY OR RELIGION OR HOW 622 00:43:23,071 --> 00:43:26,897 THEY DRESS. WE ARE VERY MUCH AWARE OF THOSE 623 00:43:26,897 --> 00:43:31,148 TYPES OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED. WE ALSO HAVE SPECIALISTS AND 624 00:43:31,148 --> 00:43:33,247 INTERVIEWERS THAT SPEAK DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, AND IF WE 625 00:43:33,247 --> 00:43:37,398 DON'T HAVE SOMEONE WE HAVE A LANGUAGE PROGRAM WHERE WE HIRE 626 00:43:37,398 --> 00:43:45,563 INTERPRETERS AND BRING THEM IN TO SPEAK WITH VICTIMS. 627 00:43:45,563 --> 00:43:49,606 SOME LAW-ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATORS GET TIPS FOR DON'T 628 00:43:49,606 --> 00:43:51,604 PASS THE FIRST INTERVIEW, BECAUSE AFTER THAT, THE 629 00:43:51,604 --> 00:43:56,676 POTENTIAL VICTIM DISAPPEARS. 630 00:43:56,676 --> 00:44:00,661 WHAT SHOULD AN INVESTIGATOR, PREPARED WITH TO THE VERY FIRST 631 00:44:00,661 --> 00:44:01,438 INTERVIEW? 632 00:44:01,438 --> 00:44:05,326 >> THAT IS AN INTERESTING QUESTION. 633 00:44:05,326 --> 00:44:10,770 I WOULD LIKE TO LET -- PAULETTE 634 00:44:10,770 --> 00:44:11,813 TO ANSWER IT FROM A MORE TRAUMA-INFORMED PERSPECTIVE. 635 00:44:11,813 --> 00:44:19,811 THE INITIAL INTERVIEW MAY BE AN INVESTIGATIVE INTERVIEW. 636 00:44:19,811 --> 00:44:22,899 FOR WE KNOW ABOUT HUMAN TRAFFICKING VICTIMS IS THAT IT 637 00:44:22,899 --> 00:44:23,951 IS REALLY HARD TO DO AN INVESTIGATIVE INTERVIEW ON THE 638 00:44:23,951 --> 00:44:28,025 FIRST INTERVIEW. THERE IS NO MAGIC TRAINING THAT 639 00:44:28,025 --> 00:44:33,152 WE CAN GIVE SOMEONE TO FIX THAT. I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW 640 00:44:33,152 --> 00:44:39,362 GOING INTO THAT IN THE INITIAL INTERVIEW, WHAT ARE THE 641 00:44:39,362 --> 00:44:43,500 RESOURCES IN YOUR COMMUNITY, WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST BARRIERS TO 642 00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:49,607 FACE GOING INTO THAT, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE POTENTIAL VICTIM 643 00:44:49,607 --> 00:44:52,649 STABILITY ISSUES THAT YOU WANT TO MAYBE ANTICIPATE? 644 00:44:52,649 --> 00:44:59,700 MY BEST ADVICE TO WORK WITH 645 00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:01,762 EXPERIENCED VICTIM ASSISTANCE SPECIALIST. 646 00:45:01,762 --> 00:45:05,867 KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THE CASE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MORE 647 00:45:05,867 --> 00:45:08,856 COMMON -- WHEN I SAY STABILITY AND WHETHER IT IS HOUSING ISSUES 648 00:45:08,856 --> 00:45:13,854 COME MEDICAL ISSUES, FOOD ISSUES -- WHAT ARE THE ISSUES YOU CAN 649 00:45:13,854 --> 00:45:16,901 BE PREPARED FOR. THE FIRST INTERVIEW SHOULD BE 650 00:45:16,901 --> 00:45:25,949 FOCUSED ON BUILDING THE 651 00:45:25,949 --> 00:45:26,994 RAPPORT WITH THE VICTIM. IF IT HAS BEEN BUILT EVEN FROM 652 00:45:26,994 --> 00:45:29,996 THE START OF THE FIRST INTERVIEW, IN MY PEANUT FOR THE 653 00:45:29,996 --> 00:45:32,996 VICTIM TO HAVE CONFIDENCE AND FAITH THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS 654 00:45:32,996 --> 00:45:35,996 THAT HELP THEM. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD 655 00:45:35,996 --> 00:45:36,996 LIKE TO ADD? 656 00:45:36,996 --> 00:45:43,063 >> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ASSESS FOR SAFETY. 657 00:45:43,063 --> 00:45:46,064 THOSE OF THE ISSUES THAT SCOTT TALKED ABOUT AN WE ASSESSED FOR 658 00:45:46,064 --> 00:45:48,064 SAFETY. THERE IS NO MAGIC WAND TO MAKE 659 00:45:48,064 --> 00:45:53,063 SURE THAT THE VICTIM DOESN'T DISAPPEAR. OUR VICTIM 660 00:45:53,063 --> 00:45:56,070 ASSISTANCE SPECIALIST WORKS CLOSELY WITH THE AGENTS 661 00:45:56,070 --> 00:45:59,146 AND WHEN THE AGENTS GO OUT, THEY USUALLY TAKE A SPECIALIST WITH 662 00:45:59,146 --> 00:46:03,149 THEM. WE ALSO HAVE VICTIM ASSISTANCE 663 00:46:03,149 --> 00:46:05,147 COORDINATORS. THOSE ARE AGENTS THAT HAVE BEEN 664 00:46:05,147 --> 00:46:10,202 SPECIALLY TRAINED TO ASSIST WITH THE VICTIMS IDENTIFIED DURING A 665 00:46:10,202 --> 00:46:17,316 CRISIS SITUATION. USUALLY THE VICTIM ASSISTANCE 666 00:46:17,316 --> 00:46:19,318 SPECIALIST, HELPING WITH ASSISTING THE VICTIM, HE STARTED 667 00:46:19,318 --> 00:46:27,458 TO FEEL THE TRUST AND REPORT. DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT IT 668 00:46:27,458 --> 00:46:29,498 DISAPPEARS BUT IT INCREASES THE POSSIBILITY THEY WILL STAY AND 669 00:46:29,498 --> 00:46:33,765 RECEIVE ASSISTANCE FROM US. IS THIS TRAINING AVAILABLE FOR 670 00:46:33,765 --> 00:46:34,832 DOWNLOAD? 671 00:46:34,832 --> 00:46:37,499 >> THAT IS ANOTHER GOOD QUESTION. 672 00:46:37,499 --> 00:46:41,530 WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT VICTIM-CENTERED TRAINING, WE 673 00:46:41,530 --> 00:46:46,650 HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THAT INFORMATION, BECAUSE WE 674 00:46:46,650 --> 00:46:50,783 WANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY GET OUT OF THE 675 00:46:50,783 --> 00:46:53,752 GENERAL PUBLIC, BECAUSE THE BIGGEST DANGER RIGHT NOW WITH 676 00:46:53,752 --> 00:46:57,775 THE AWARENESS GOING ON IF HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS WE DON'T REALLY 677 00:46:57,775 --> 00:47:00,862 WANT A CITIZEN WALKING UP TO A POTENTIAL VICTIM AND SAW 678 00:47:00,862 --> 00:47:01,901 SOMETHING ONLINE AND NOW WANTS TO INTERVIEW THEM AND TAKE THAT 679 00:47:01,901 --> 00:47:06,029 WILL ALWAYS FROM LAW-ENFORCEMENT, BECAUSE WE KNOW 680 00:47:06,029 --> 00:47:09,111 IT IT IS A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION NOT JUST FOR THE 681 00:47:09,111 --> 00:47:11,114 VICTIM BUT FOR THE PERSON TRYING TO INTERFERE. 682 00:47:11,114 --> 00:47:14,677 WE DO HAVE SOME MATERIAL THAT 683 00:47:14,677 --> 00:47:19,428 COULD BE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE HOMELAND SECURITY INFORMATION 684 00:47:19,428 --> 00:47:22,398 NETWORK, FOR THE FEDERAL LAW 685 00:47:22,398 --> 00:47:26,528 ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER WEBPAGE. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE. 686 00:47:26,528 --> 00:47:27,504 WE DON'T HAVE IT FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO DOWNLOAD. 687 00:47:27,504 --> 00:47:32,566 >> ARE THERE FUNDS FOR THE 688 00:47:32,566 --> 00:47:37,033 OVERSEAS HSI OPERATIONS? I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE 689 00:47:37,033 --> 00:47:38,149 QUESTION. 690 00:47:38,149 --> 00:47:42,616 >> DOES THAT QUESTION MEAN IDENTIFYING VICTIMS THAT MIGHT 691 00:47:42,617 --> 00:47:45,659 BE U.S. CITIZENS IDENTIFIED OVERSEAS? 692 00:47:45,659 --> 00:47:50,224 THAT IS ONE WAY TO LOOK AT THE QUESTION. 693 00:47:50,224 --> 00:47:53,774 HSI DOES HAVE A CACHET OF THIS 694 00:47:53,774 --> 00:47:58,785 IS A RECEIPT -- ATTACHE OFFICES 695 00:47:58,785 --> 00:47:59,827 OVERSEAS AND THEIR WORK WITH FOREIGN NATIONALS TO IDENTIFY 696 00:47:59,827 --> 00:48:02,872 THREATS THAT COME TO THE UNITED STATES LIST OF I DON'T KNOW OF 697 00:48:02,872 --> 00:48:08,952 ANY AMERICAN VICTIMS THAT IDENTIFIED BY HSI OVERSEAS. 698 00:48:08,952 --> 00:48:14,027 >> I'M NOT SURE HOW TO ANSWER 699 00:48:14,027 --> 00:48:17,029 QUESTIONS, WHAT YOU ARE ASKING. IF YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT VICTIMS 700 00:48:17,029 --> 00:48:22,113 IDENTIFIED DURING THE COURSE -- 701 00:48:22,113 --> 00:48:26,117 INTERVIEWERS OFTEN TRAVEL WITH THE AGENT IF WE HAVE A U.S. 702 00:48:26,117 --> 00:48:28,153 CITIZEN THAT IS TRAVELING OVERSEAS TO DEFEND AGAINST 703 00:48:28,153 --> 00:48:31,204 CHILDREN. UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE 704 00:48:31,204 --> 00:48:36,368 SERVICES WE NECESSARILY PROVIDE 705 00:48:36,368 --> 00:48:38,384 . WE WORK WITH THE COUNTRY THEY ARE IN TO THE BEST OF THEIR 706 00:48:38,384 --> 00:48:42,514 ABILITY TO PROVIDE WHATEVER SERVICES THEY HAVE AVAILABLE, 707 00:48:42,514 --> 00:48:45,526 AND THE FORENSIC INTERVIEWER HAS ASSISTANCE TRAINING AND 708 00:48:45,526 --> 00:48:50,616 BACKGROUND SO THEY WILL PROVIDE WHATEVER ASSISTANCE AND 709 00:48:50,616 --> 00:48:51,649 RESOURCES AND INFORMATION THEY CAN PROVIDE. 710 00:48:51,649 --> 00:48:57,704 WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND WORKING 711 00:48:57,704 --> 00:49:03,703 WITH MARY WHO HAS BEEN WORKING 712 00:49:03,703 --> 00:49:07,749 WITH AN AGENT WHO DOES NOT USE THE VICTIM-CENTERED APPROACH? 713 00:49:07,749 --> 00:49:10,828 EDUCATION, EDUCATION, EDUCATION. IF THAT AGENT OR THAT PERSON 714 00:49:10,828 --> 00:49:18,867 ISN'T WILLING TO LISTEN, AND IF THE ISSUE IS SEVERE ENOUGH, I 715 00:49:18,867 --> 00:49:24,954 HAVE GONE TO SUPERVISORS SPOKE WITHOUT -- HAS IT MANY POPULAR, 716 00:49:24,954 --> 00:49:29,039 BUT IT IS IN THE WAY THAT YOU APPROACH -- HEY, YOU NEED SOME 717 00:49:29,039 --> 00:49:35,161 TRAINING, OR YOUR AGENTS OR POLICE OFFICERS NEED 718 00:49:35,161 --> 00:49:39,308 TRAINING ON SERVICES, AND HERE IS WHY. 719 00:49:39,308 --> 00:49:47,449 THOSE ARE SOME OF THE APPROACHES YOU CAN TAKE WITH THAT. 720 00:49:47,449 --> 00:49:51,453 WHAT IF THAT IS AN ICE AGE AND SPECIFICALLY? 721 00:49:51,453 --> 00:49:54,454 I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. 722 00:49:54,454 --> 00:49:58,503 >> THE PERSON WHO DIDN'T BELIEVE MARY -- 723 00:49:58,503 --> 00:50:06,575 >> IF IT'S AN HSI AGENT, GOING 724 00:50:06,575 --> 00:50:07,612 TO THE INDIVIDUAL SUPERVISOR OR WHOEVER YOU HAVE AN ESTABLISHED 725 00:50:07,612 --> 00:50:19,612 RELATIONSHIP WITH AN OFFERING TRAINING AND EDUCATION. 726 00:50:21,817 --> 00:50:23,862 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 727 00:50:23,862 --> 00:50:29,862 >> LOOKS LIKE WE MAY HAVE ONE 728 00:50:29,862 --> 00:50:33,910 MORE COMING IN. I WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE AND 729 00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:36,949 THANKED EVERYONE FOR YOUR ATTENTION THIS AFTERNOON. 730 00:50:36,949 --> 00:50:39,478 THIS HAS BEEN AN AMAZING WEBINAR. 731 00:50:39,478 --> 00:50:42,007 I WANT TO THANK DR. HUBBARD, 732 00:50:42,007 --> 00:50:43,748 WHO DID AN AMAZING JOB EXPLAINING 733 00:50:43,748 --> 00:50:46,070 THESE ISSUES. STICK AROUND FOR A FEW MORE 734 00:50:46,070 --> 00:50:48,070 MINUTES TO HANDLE ANY MORE QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT BE COMING 735 00:50:48,070 --> 00:50:48,969 IN. 736 00:50:48,969 --> 00:50:52,118 >> THE QUESTION IS FROM ADDRESSING THE OVERSEAS FUNDING 737 00:50:52,118 --> 00:50:57,206 QUESTION ABOVE -- IF A FOREIGN NATIONAL VICTIM HAS BEEN A 738 00:50:57,206 --> 00:50:59,251 VICTIM OF TRAFFICKING IN THE UNITED STATES AND HAS RETURNED 739 00:50:59,251 --> 00:51:02,278 TO THEIR HOME COUNTRY, IF THEY BECOME A WITNESS IN A U.S. 740 00:51:02,278 --> 00:51:10,320 PROSECUTION, THEY COULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE U.S. VI 741 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,320 -- AT WHICH POINT THEY BECOME ELIGIBLE 742 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,100 FOR SERVICES IN THE U.S. 743 00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:17,366 YES, ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. IF THEY ARE IN THE U.S. AND 744 00:51:17,366 --> 00:51:18,376 ELIGIBLE FOR SERVICES. 745 00:51:18,376 --> 00:51:23,404 >> 746 00:51:23,404 --> 00:51:24,406 THERE WOULD BE SPECIFIC TYPES OF VISAS THEY CAN APPLY FOR. 747 00:51:24,406 --> 00:51:29,450 IF THEY FLED TO THE U.S. AFTER 748 00:51:29,450 --> 00:51:32,459 TRAFFICKING AND RETURN FOR TRIAL, THEY APPLY FOR A VISA 749 00:51:32,459 --> 00:51:35,467 BECAUSE THEY ARE A VICTIM OF ONE OF THE 20 8 IN CRIMES AND THEY 750 00:51:35,467 --> 00:51:36,596 HAVE STATUS. 751 00:51:36,596 --> 00:51:42,241 T IS RESERVED FOR TRAFFICKED VICTIMS, BUT THAT ONLY APPLIES 752 00:51:42,241 --> 00:51:48,451 IF THE VICTIM AND LEFT THE COUNTRY -- HADN'T LEFT THE 753 00:51:48,451 --> 00:51:52,451 COUNTRY. THAT IS A WHOLE OTHER WEBINAR, 754 00:51:52,451 --> 00:51:56,501 WHOLE OTHER DAY OF IMMIGRATION RELIEF THAT HOMELAND SECURITY 755 00:51:56,501 --> 00:52:02,511 PROVIDES, BUT WE DO THE BEST WEEKEND. AND, I DON'T 756 00:52:02,511 --> 00:52:08,502 KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE IT. 757 00:52:08,502 --> 00:52:11,910 OK. IN THAT CASE 758 00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:15,317 , YOU CAN CLOSE OUT. 759 00:52:15,317 --> 00:52:19,578 >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK 760 00:52:19,578 --> 00:52:22,659 EVERYBODY FOR JOINING US AND PARTICIPATING IN THE WEBINAR. 761 00:52:22,659 --> 00:52:24,706 IF UF ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS OR THINGS THAT YOU 762 00:52:24,706 --> 00:52:30,113 ARE UNCOMFORTABLE BRINGING UP HERE IN THE WEBINAR, TAKING IN, 763 00:52:30,113 --> 00:52:35,863 PLEASE FEEL FREE TO E-MAIL ME OR GIVE ME A CALL AND WE CAN 764 00:52:35,863 --> 00:52:47,863 DISCUSS FURTHER.